mcgreenvegtables posted:

Saw this at the Boston Opera House yesterday

FCKGW posted:

Laminator posted:

This is likely a door in a psychiatric ward, so that staff can get access while still giving the patient some privacy.

Platystemon posted:

Only a crazy person would see that as privacy.

`Nemesis posted:

From this month's failarmy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLPJsKXAFbw&t=50s

Suspect Bucket posted:

Reply with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' to be removed from Interesting Sheep And Goat Facts Of The Minute.

there wolf posted:

Maybe the real problem with penny floors is the frequent lack of ambition?

there wolf posted:

Maybe the real problem with penny floors is the frequent lack of ambition?



I wish this wasn't some terrible, grainy pintrest post because it has the potential to be really cool or really terrible depending on how it was pulled off.

`Nemesis posted:

From this month's failarmy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLPJsKXAFbw&t=50s

quote:

I'm a residential carpenter/builder, I run a framing crew. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This is so inferior to standard framing that I am mildly furious that it exists.
For one it uses way more material, exterior sheathing on a typical exterior wall is 7/16" OSB, the stock they are using above looks to be 7/8" or 5/4". It also looks as though the bastardized studs with dovetails are run on an 8" layout, instead of 16" or 24". Add to that the interior walls are sheathed with wood instead of drywall which adds to material cost. So in terms of just raw wood used in walls this build uses at least twice as much as standard wood framing. You might say its faster since you have a finished wood exterior on this build, vs needing to side on a conventional, but guess what, unless you put a vapor barrier on the exterior that wood is gonna be completely and totally hosed inside and out in a very short time.
Next, sawdust as insulation...where to start...I can't tell if the worst aspect of the idea is the mold, the insects, the flammability, or the plain and simple fact that to generate that much sawdust you're either carting it to the site from the lumber mill or sending some rear end in a top hat out in the woods with a belt sander and wishing him good luck. Pink fiberglass is pretty flame retardant, so is drywall, so is standard framing with fire stopping between cavities, floors, and attic areas. Fiberglass also traps much less water, so less mold issues, and I'm pretty sure nothing on this planet can eat fiberglass or drywall so insects aren't as much of an issue either. Even if you don't want to use fiberglass there are tons of cheap materials that would be far far superior to sawdust. If this idea were your standard level of idiotic this might be the worst aspect of the design. But the stupid dial has been turned up to 11, so it gets worse.
I don't mess with plumbing, but I've pulled wires and installed lights and plugs. I can't imagine how you'd run wire in this mess. I've gotta believe they are pulling wires as they proceed with framing, instead of after, which means you need two separate trades coordinating simultaneously on the same wall. Add plumbing and HVAC, which would likely have to go in simultaneously as well, and you've created a cluster gently caress pissing contest of trades all trying to hack their poo poo into a complex wall that they won't have easy access to later if something was to be wrong, which something inevitably will. Building is all about coordinating different trades, getting machines and materials where they need to be when they need to be there, communicating changes, scheduling. This build is inefficient, inefficient is expensive.
Lastly, and what irritates me most is how painfully, stupidly, ridiculously slow this would be. An 8 foot wide by 8 foot tall wall on a regular house is gonna have 7 studs, a bottom plate, and one or two top plates depending if its stack framing. All that will be covered in two 4' by 8' sheets of plywood and some tyvec on one side, and two sheets of 4' by 8' drywall on the other. That is 13 or 14 different pieces of material total for one normal wall. For an 8 by 8 wall on this build, a face is sheathed in 24" by 8" inch boards, so that'd be 32 pieces, 64 to sheath both sides, then there'd be 78 of the bastardized stud things, for 142 total pieces. This thing has ten times as many boards as a normal wall. Add to that the guy in rubber gloves painting mystery poo poo and I'm calling shenanigans. Basically, give me a slab the same area as that house, with the same windows and doors, give me a circular saw, a nail gun, tape measure, pencil, hammer, chalk line, speed square, knife and some nails and I alone could frame the entire place faster than it took this group of four or five miserable bastards.
So, to sum up, this wall is more flammable, less resistant to mold and insects, more difficult to build, requires more materials in general, the cost of those materials is higher on average, it's much more complex, and it takes longer to build. What is the advantage?...I mean why, just why? This thing transcends the plains of stupidity and reaches beyond the precipices of moronic into the clouds of completely and totally hosed . It's like if a bunch of bad ideas had a giant orgy, then the offspring from that orgy incestuously reproduced for a couple generations, this is the dumbest kid at that family reunion.

crazypeltast52 posted:

God help you if the tolerances are off on some of those parts and you have to mill them to fit.

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

The advantage is you don't need nails

And that's it.

Suspect Bucket posted:

Then again, that's how the Japaneese ended up with such insane joinery.

That does look like it would burn like crazy.

kid sinister posted:

That whole house reeks of an engineer solving a problem that didn't exist.

NancyPants posted:

You know, if you wanted to build a house out of a modular, block-like object without nails, we already have something like that.

They're called bricks. They don't burn. And the wolf can't huff and puff and blow them down, either.

What do you suppose is the R value on that sawdust before it catches fire? -2?

Mercury Ballistic posted:

I thought concrete was actually sequestering a not-insignificant amount of carbon?

Mercury Ballistic posted:

This was what I read. Seems like concrete reclaimes some co2

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/the-crumbling-cement-around-you-is-soaking-up-carbon-dioxide/

Suspect Bucket posted:

Well, the nice thing about having sawdust insulation and no plumbing is that you can just poo poo in the walls and everything will be just fine!*

Even better, it will all compost down, providing radiant heat, then at the end of it all you'll have fancy rammed-earth walls you can grow a vertical garden in!

I should probably stop before I give someone ideas. This whole thing is starting to sound like some clever clogs' deadly DIY reclaimed materials project.






*everything will not be fine

Suspect Bucket posted:

Well, the nice thing about having sawdust insulation and no plumbing is that you can just poo poo in the walls and everything will be just fine!*

Even better, it will all compost down, providing radiant heat, then at the end of it all you'll have fancy rammed-earth walls you can grow a vertical garden in!

I should probably stop before I give someone ideas. This whole thing is starting to sound like some clever clogs' deadly DIY reclaimed materials project.






*everything will not be fine

spog posted:

It's like they saw Insulated Concrete Formwork (ICF) and said 'that looks like a cool building method, but concrete and polystyrene are Bad For The Environment - I know, I have an idea to make it eco-friendly' but without understanding building things.