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Torrannor posted:For once, Bioware could actually tell better stories with their romance mechanic. How many humans are on these arks? 10k, 100k? If it's closer to 10k, then it would make sense if other people give you crap in case you enter a relationship where you can't have children naturally (Ryder with alien or with human of the same sex). There's the potential for interesting conflict and good storytelling. Not really for the homophobia argument, ME2 and 3 established that cloning - including the mixing of DNA from multiple sources - is a thing in this setting. Traynor alludes to it a lot when romanced, that she wants to settle down and raise a family with Shepard.
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Cythereal posted:Not really for the homophobia argument, ME2 and 3 established that cloning - including the mixing of DNA from multiple sources - is a thing in this setting. Traynor alludes to it a lot when romanced, that she wants to settle down and raise a family with Shepard. E: VVVVV The Geth have been in since ME1 dude. Groetgaffel fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Feb 26, 2017 14:43
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They should make the most ultra sexy flirty aliens ever created and then make them completely asexual and uninterested in any sort of sex with the player character
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Feb 26, 2017 14:45
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Torrannor posted:For once, Bioware could actually tell better stories with their romance mechanic. How many humans are on these arks? 10k, 100k? If it's closer to 10k, then it would make sense if other people give you crap in case you enter a relationship where you can't have children naturally (Ryder with alien or with human of the same sex). There's the potential for interesting conflict and good storytelling. [Jacob's Dad Voice:] Willing.
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Drifter posted:This is so danm weird, why does a race with huge head tentacles tuck them into their shirt? If they did, wouldn't they have developed a shirt that was less "human'? Like, ones with sock-like pockets down the back, or pouches in the front or loving something? like, wouldn't that chafe the tentacles around that neck area where the collar lies? Maybe those aren't head tentacles and it's all attached. Like he has a natural hood. Ah hell what am I doing soon enough we'll be on the "I wonder how he sweats? I wonder what it smells like?" discussions.
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Feb 26, 2017 14:50
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They sweat profusely and it tastes like blueberries I'm told
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Feb 26, 2017 14:52
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where the quarian hunnies at, think they'd bring some of the natural spacers when they're traveling a hecka long way can bring the Geth too, bugger the asari nobody wants them anyway
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Flipswitch posted:where the quarian hunnies at, think they'd bring some of the natural spacers when they're traveling a hecka long way All they will say about Quarians is to watch your story choices and pay careful attention.
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Feb 26, 2017 15:01
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marshmallow creep posted:All they will say about Quarians is to watch your story choices and pay careful attention. Translation: as usual, the quarians rival the salarians in the "Hey guys, I've got a great idea!" -> "Holy poo poo no stop!" department.
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Flipswitch posted:where the quarian hunnies at, think they'd bring some of the natural spacers when they're traveling a hecka long way Uh, lots of people want to bugger Asari.
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Huh, the save editor messed up and now ME2 thinks I shot Wrex. Oh well, new dialogue. I like how Wreav is pretty okay with things.
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RBA Starblade posted:Huh, the save editor messed up and now ME2 thinks I shot Wrex. Oh well, new dialogue. I like how Wreav is pretty okay with things. Speaking about messing up, is there a guide out there for maximizing the gently caress-ups you can do in ME2 (particularly with Suicide Mission deaths), with still Shepard surviving for ME3? My first time playing ME3 was obviously with a ~perfect~ save with everyone alive and poo poo, but now I want to see the other side of the coin. I already played ME1 and let Wrex die, which I know affects a lot, and I'm about to play ME2 again.
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I remember I did it with only Jacob and Zaeed surviving. I would need to remember what I did. It takes some planning.
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Torrannor posted:For once, Bioware could actually tell better stories with their romance mechanic. How many humans are on these arks? 10k, 100k? If it's closer to 10k, then it would make sense if other people give you crap in case you enter a relationship where you can't have children naturally (Ryder with alien or with human of the same sex). There's the potential for interesting conflict and good storytelling. Having a plot excuse for heteronormativity doesn't make it any more fun for gay players.
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"What if homophobia was actually good?" - a better story
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epenthesis posted:Having a plot excuse for heteronormativity doesn't make it any more fun for gay players. I'm one of these gay players myself. It would have forced them to go deeper into detail for the gay/interspecies relationships imho, preventing basically genderless romances like Josephine's in DA:I.
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Torrannor posted:I'm one of these gay players myself. It would have forced them to go deeper into detail for the gay/interspecies relationships imho, preventing basically genderless romances like Josephine's in DA:I. For that to actually work, Bioware would have to display highly competent writing. Which, uh, I wouldn't bet on.
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Feb 26, 2017 16:31
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Groetgaffel posted:For that to actually work, Bioware would have to display highly competent writing. Which, uh, I wouldn't bet on. Agreed. Supposing a homophobic society is 90% likely to result in a ham-fisted "Homophobia is bad!" sermon. While this isn't necessarily a bad thing, and the grog rage would be its own reward, I do think it's an unnecessary minefield that Bioware will avoid because they typically like to play it safe. Still holding out for something like Dick Ryder being canonically gay when you play as Sarah, though. Grog rage is delicious.
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frajaq posted:Speaking about messing up, is there a guide out there for maximizing the gently caress-ups you can do in ME2 (particularly with Suicide Mission deaths), with still Shepard surviving for ME3? Do you want to just have the minimum number of import characters from the suicide mission or do you want to try maximizing sacrifices in ME3 as well. Because for maximum Mass Effect 3 suffering, I think you would need Tali or Legion, Mordin, Grunt, Jack and Morinth to import. Otherwise, I think you could be satisfied with Sell Legion, don't wake Grunt, choose Morinth, don't do Zaeed's loyalty No armor, Jack Dies Remaining: Kasumi, Thane, Tali, Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Mordin, Miranda, Jacob No shields, Kasumi dies Remaining: Thane, Tali, Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Mordin, Miranda, Jacob No weapons, Thane Dies Remaining: Tali, Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Mordin, Miranda, Jacob Jacob for Vents, Jacob Dies Tali, Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Mordin, Miranda Long Walk: Miranda: Bring Mordin and Morinth, lose Mordin Edit: Forgot fire team leader: Send Tali--she'll die. Remaining: Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Miranda Escort: Send no escort--Crew will die Remaining: Garrus, Zaeed, Morinth, Miranda Take Garrus and Miranda to final fight: They die Zaeed will hold the line hard enough to keep Morinth alive. Shepard should survive with help from Morinth and Zaeed. Wake up Grunt and go on Zaeed's loyalty to get Zaeed killed. Now you have Grunt and Morinth. Don't do Grunt's loyalty and both will die in ME3. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Feb 26, 2017 16:47
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In case it wasn't obvious if you do this it's critical to wake Grunt only after you complete the final mission but before doing Zaeed's loyalty, as you will not have the option of killing Zaeed if doing so would bring you <2 living squadmates. You really have to keep Tali alive though because her death in ME3 is so amazing.
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exquisite tea posted:In case it wasn't obvious if you do this it's critical to wake Grunt only after you complete the final mission but before doing Zaeed's loyalty, as you will not have the option of killing Zaeed if doing so would bring you <2 living squadmates. Yeah, the guys with the most impressive ME3 deaths are some of the hardest to keep alive in ME2, so I'm going over the flowchart to see what would be a good set up. You'd need armor on the ship to keep Jack alive so she can die when you miss Grissom Academy. Sending a loyal Mordin on the escort and bringing a loyal Tali to the final fight would keep them alive so they can suffer your treachery later. Thane dies in ME3 no matter what, but if he's already dead things end up being worse all around, so he gets the Vents. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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That's good enough, I only want to keep Thane and Mordin alive, one for romance shenanigans and the other for the ME3 Tuchanka mission. I'm fine with the rest dying. I forgot you could kill Zaeed on his loyalty mission! I have to go with the Paragon path (saving the hostages) right? That detail about Grunt is important, thanks a lot
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marshmallow creep posted:Yeah, the guys with the most impressive ME3 deaths are some of the hardest to keep alive in ME2, so I'm going over the flowchart to see what would be a good set up. You'd need armor on the ship to keep Jack alive so she can die when you miss Grissom Academy. Sending a loyal Mordin on the escort and bringing a loyal Tali to the final fight would keep them alive. Thane dies in ME3, but if he's already dead things end up being worse all around, so he gets the Vents. It's kind of better if Thane dies in ME2 because if you held the line then it's freakin Capt. Kirrahe outta nowhere. frajaq posted:I forgot you could kill Zaeed on his loyalty mission! I have to go with the Paragon path (saving the hostages) right? That detail about Grunt is important, thanks a lot You have to choose the Paragon path through the refinery and 2 living squadmates other than Zaeed to get this option.
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frajaq posted:That's good enough, I only want to keep Thane and Mordin alive, one for romance shenanigans and the other for the ME3 Tuchanka mission. I'm fine with the rest dying. Check out the flowchart to see what kind of revisions you might want to make. Mordin's easiest to save if he's a loyal escort or you bring him to the final fight, while Thane is super easy to get killed if you don't have the weapons upgrade or bring on a botched Long Walk. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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marshmallow creep posted:Shepard should survive with help from Morinth and Zaeed. Wake up Grunt and go on Zaeed's loyalty to get Zaeed killed. Now you have Grunt and Morinth. Don't do Grunt's loyalty and both will die in ME3. No solution that results in Zaeed predeceasing any other crew member is optimal. Won't it work just as well if you leave Grunt permanently in the tank and take Zaeed and Morinth into the third game?
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The Lone Badger posted:I thing Greenmangaming is cheaper than buying from origin directly. Yeah, it's $48 and then I guess you just buy the deluxe upgrade on Origin, huh?
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Yeah, I think you can do just fine bringing Zaeed and Morinth. If you don't do his ME2 loyalty, Zaeed will even die in ME3.
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Torrannor posted:For once, Bioware could actually tell better stories with their romance mechanic. How many humans are on these arks? 10k, 100k? If it's closer to 10k, then it would make sense if other people give you crap in case you enter a relationship where you can't have children naturally (Ryder with alien or with human of the same sex). There's the potential for interesting conflict and good storytelling. Wouldn't this light, Buck Rogers-esque, Star Trek, pulppulpulp videogame be more interesting, I propose, if playing as a black character unlocked the hidden companion; 'Racist Jim'?
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Torrannor posted:I'm one of these gay players myself. It would have forced them to go deeper into detail for the gay/interspecies relationships imho, preventing basically genderless romances like Josephine's in DA:I. Fair enough. It's just bullshit that I would prefer not follow me into my escapist entertainment. Also, I don't see that it's necessarily problematic that some relationships not be distinctly gendered; there are plenty of people who aren't hung up on that. It looks like they've settled on having a solely same-sex option and a few bi options, which should suit a range of tastes.
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There should only be one romanceable character; the featureless gray cube that commandeers your twitter account from Cool Games Inc.
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epenthesis posted:Also, I don't see that it's necessarily problematic that some relationships not be distinctly gendered; there are plenty of people who aren't hung up on that. It looks like they've settled on having a solely same-sex option and a few bi options, which should suit a range of tastes. VVVVVV I'm going to miss Garrus, no lie. Groetgaffel fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Groetgaffel posted:I'm just hoping the lady Turian is one of the gay or bi ones. I almost always play as a female character when given the choice, and I like Turians. I really hope she's bi, because if she's gay then they just flip the Garrus problem around. The Garrus problem being that only one gender can bang the coolest alien that isn't a Krogan.
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Burkion posted:The Garrus problem being that only one gender can bang the coolest alien that isn't a Krogan. I never got the love for Garrus as a romance option. I adore Garrus as Shepard's best bro and second in command, but the romance ruins a really good chemistry of just being great friends.
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Cythereal posted:I never got the love for Garrus as a romance option. I adore Garrus as Shepard's best bro and second in command, but the romance ruins a really good chemistry of just being great friends. Oh I don't disagree with you, I just wouldn't have minded the option as a Male Shep player. I hated the options in ME1 and just went with Tali for ME2 because we were shotgun bros.
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So are turians assholes soft and moist or are they like, bony and hard? ASking for a friend
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https://twitter.com/biowareproblems/status/835622602857148416
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The hubris of thinking that your successful franchise could get away with an ending that didn't leave room for more sequels.
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The endings, all 3 of them, left plenty of room. But it'd take like, effort man and like, way easier to just switch galaxy man and like, you know, its all good man *sniffs huge load of cocaine off interns rear end in a top hat*
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