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XyrlocShammypants posted:Lol all you want. 65 million people voted and very area specific results decided the election. I too think that the amount of votes I can gather in California matters at all in the grand scale of things. The smaller states don't matter at all, because no one cares about electoral votes. After all, it's all about that vote count.
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Dan Didio posted:I don't really understand how you read that as a comment on you. To be honest I found it nearly incomprehensible and focused on the last part about patronizing.
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Xae posted:To be honest I found it nearly incomprehensible and I was taking a guess at you calling me patronizing. I like to think this has taught you a valuable lesson about assumptions.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Let's start with what you mean by suppress. Or maybe we can be less hyperbolic You know I think you should probably work on your own posts before you say that to anyone else.
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TheRat posted:I too think that the amount of votes I can gather in California matters at all in the grand scale of things. The smaller states don't matter at all, because no one cares about electoral votes. After all, it's all about that vote count. What a zinger, we use the electoral college! Wow! No one ever thought about that. The question was about the size of the base and in total or in smaller localities the Democrats can easily regain what was lost (or gain on top of what they had). Actually visiting Wisconsin and Michigan will do wonders. Crowsbeak posted:You know I think you should probably work on your own posts before you say that to anyone else. This post makes as much sense as "Obama was suppressing Ellison behind the scenes." Which is to say no sense at all Shammypants fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Very soon, democrats will control the country. 2016 was all according to plan, you see. Classic rope-a-dope strategy.
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Dan Didio posted:I like to think this has taught you a valuable lesson about assumptions. Well, since the post was directed at me and I "both downpl[ed] the vote's importance, and point out that both were good options" it was pretty reasonable to believe that the following clause was intended to apply to me as well. If you don't want people to try and read tea leaves about your intentions feel free to start writing coherently and not have huge run on sentences that switch topics and audience several times.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:Very soon, democrats will control the country Perfectly reasonable prediction for 2020
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TheRat posted:I'm sorry. I'm not clever or confident enough to match up to this level of smugness. If you really believed it was gonna happen you could probably come up with some kind of approximation of the argument that convinced you. Why should anyone take you seriously otherwise? Raskolnikov38 posted:when the apparently brain dead morons that decided a kick to a dick for no reason what so ever was a great idea botch 2018 and 2020 Raskolnikov38 posted:well if i could tell the future i'd be using it to buy lotto tickets
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Xae posted:Well, since the post was directed at me and I "both downpl[ed] the vote's importance, and point out that both were good options" it was pretty reasonable to believe that the following clause was intended to apply to me as well. Pretty rude.
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Nevvy Z posted:If you really believed it was gonna happen you could probably come up with some kind of approximation of the argument that convinced you. Why should anyone take you seriously otherwise? If there was anything the 2016 elections taught us, it's that smug liberal cunts will never take you seriously no matter what you say, so why even bother? E:
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TheRat posted:If there was anything the 2016 elections taught us, it's that smug liberal cunts will never take you seriously no matter what you say, so why even bother? So, you don't actually have any idea what's going to happen, you are convinced it'll be a disaster though, because how those democrats not do the thing you wanted. By the way, people really invested in this ellison thing, who did you contact about it?
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Nevvy Z posted:So, you don't actually have any idea what's going to happen neither do you jackass, given the track record of the democrats for the past 6-8 years, it is my belief that evidence points to them continuing to gently caress up
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, I am pretty skeptical both the Democrats or Republicans can self correct at this point and the current silent (or not so silent) political crisis the US is experiencing is only going to get worse. Third parties can't effect major state/federal level change in the US simply based on our electoral system and state level political mechanics. I think someone like Sawant is about best case scenario.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:neither do you jackass Which is why I'm not getting myself super worked up about the results of this nothingburger. Raskolnikov38 posted:given the track record of the democrats for the past 6-8 years, it is my belief that evidence points to them continuing to gently caress up How though? what kind of fuckup do you think perez is gonna make that ellison would not have, when ellison was his deputy? You have no idea, you are just angry at the democrats. I'm not sure you even know why you are angry at them. I'm not saying you can't be angry, but you being angry doesn't make this a mistake, it just makes you an angry person. BTW, where do you live and who did you contact to encourage them to vote Ellison? Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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XyrlocShammypants posted:What a zinger, we use the electoral college! Wow! No one ever thought about that. The question was about the size of the base and in total or in smaller localities the Democrats can easily regain what was lost (or gain on top of what they had). Actually visiting Wisconsin and Michigan will do wonders. Didn't seem to help in Pennsylvania, though.
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Nevvy Z posted:How though? what kind of fuckup do you think perez is gonna make that ellison would not have, when ellison was his deputy? my concern has always been the party writ large rather than the chair. half of the 400+ party leaders decided either further inflaming or not caring about the division in the party was a good idea and that does not bode well i feel
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I'll make this very simple as you don't seem to have the ability to understand more advanced language. Your posts are nothing but hyperbole. So to suggest anyone not be hyperbolic in their posts is very funny. @raskalnikov considering they are running scared from us at town halls as much as the GOP we can make them bend if we keep organized
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Raskolnikov38 posted:my concern has always been the party writ large rather than the chair. half of the 400+ party leaders decided either further inflaming or not caring about the division in the party was a good idea and that does not bode well i feel Ok. What division? Is it significant? did they know about it? Who did you contact to let them know how you feel? Is this anything other than "they should have voted for the guy Bernie endorsed and known I wanted it"?
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Pikavangelist posted:Didn't seem to help in Pennsylvania, though. All analyses show that Trump and his allies made many more visits that handed him the presidency. This is a major reason democrats lost that can be easily rectified with a return to traditional political calculus in the general
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, I am pretty skeptical both the Democrats or Republicans can self correct at this point and the current silent (or not so silent) political crisis the US is experiencing is only going to get worse. Third parties can't effect major state/federal level change in the US simply based on our electoral system and state level political mechanics. I think someone like Sawant is about best case scenario. http://twitter.com/callawaythings/status/812716182159626240
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Apparently the islamophobic emails derailed ellison's candidacy. Why should leftists vote for islamophobic dems again?
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Nevvy Z posted:Ok. What division? Is it significant? did they know about it? Who did you contact to let them know how you feel? since you're so goddamn hung up on this, california and everyone that had contact info that didn't require serious digging into personal accounts to find that was listed on the CA dems handy webpage of dnc voting members.
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Crowsbeak posted:I'll make this very simple as you don't seem to have the ability to understand more advanced language. Your posts are nothing but hyperbole. So to suggest anyone not be hyperbolic in their posts You clearly don't understand what hyperbole is so we are done.
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This election didnt matter and bernouts are tiny minority and im really mad about this and will rant for pages about this issue i dont care about!!
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XyrlocShammypants posted:This post makes as much sense as "Obama was suppressing Ellison behind the scenes." Which is to say no sense at all I heard unsourced rumors that he spent TEN DAYS secretly fighting Ellison supporters in cage matches.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:You clearly don't understand what hyperbole is so we are done. I mean you compared me calling you hyperbolic to me making up some sort of insane conspiracy theory. I mean that is engaging in hyperbole.
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Perez winning was a win for islamophobes like trump and the centrists of the dem party.
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The perez-led democratic party is for all intensive purposes a new wing of the republican party and its supporters are the practical equivalent of trumpsters
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Calibanibal posted:The perez-led democratic party is for all intensive purposes a new wing of the republican party and its supporters are the practical equivalent of trumpsters That's incredibly unfair. Trumpsters win elections
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Condiv posted:Even this thread has people popping in to say they're done with the dems. Everyone should be banding together to call these people idiots. I don't care if you wanted Greene to be chair. Acting like this is what our enemies want. Condiv posted:Perez winning was a win for islamophobes like trump and the centrists of the dem party. Source your quotes please and thank you.
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Lightning Lord posted:Everyone should be banding together to call these people idiots. I don't care if you wanted Greene to be chair. Acting like this is what our enemies want. I agree. Let's repeat what worked so wonderfully well in 2016. If you just yell and insult people a little bit more you'll be unstoppable!
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Lightning Lord posted:Everyone should be banding together to call these people idiots. I don't care if you wanted Greene to be chair. Acting like this is what our enemies want. Eh, I don't blame em. It was a long time coming tbh. They've got like 2 years to cool off and see if anything actually happens. It's all cool imo.
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TheRat posted:I agree. Let's repeat what worked so wonderfully well in 2016. If you just yell and insult people a little bit more you'll be unstoppable! There is no Dana, only Zuul.
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TheRat posted:I agree. Let's repeat what worked so wonderfully well in 2016. If you just yell and insult people a little bit more you'll be unstoppable! *organizes fart in* *interrupts civil rights heroes with boos and taunts*
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Lightning Lord posted:Everyone should be banding together to call these people idiots. I don't care if you wanted Greene to be chair. Acting like this is what our enemies want. Here you go https://twitter.com/jstein_vox/status/835878035513556992 Personally I don't like that islamophobes run our party, and I don't want to vote to elect islamophobic dems
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XyrlocShammypants posted:*organizes fart in* *loses election* *learns nothing* *is a smug liberal oval office*
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XyrlocShammypants posted:*interrupts civil rights heroes with boos and taunts* heroes more like zeroes
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I dunno why centrists pretend they care about minorities. It's clear from the DNC chair race they don't
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Glibness aside, I have less than zero problem with being frustrated that Ellison didn't win. It's good to vent that and to discuss what it means. I'm just concerned that #DemExit type sentiments are going to become louder, and shitbags like Assange and Bannon are going to be further empowered by it to continue their work to demolish the American left.Condiv posted:Here you go https://twitter.com/jstein_vox/status/835878035513556992 Honestly, same. If you look at my post history you'll see that I have a lot to say on this subject, much drawn from personal experience. I'm mad about this being a factor in Ellison's loss. I'm just waiting to see if Perez actually collaborates with Ellison, or if the deputy position is just for show I guess. If he does work with him it will actually help to combat that influence, regardless of who helped him to get elected. I'm also concerned "Islamophobia!" is going to become a weapon to batter Perez no matter what he does. Like "Anti-semitism!" would have been if Ellison won. Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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