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MorsAnima posted:Reporting the loss of my DST to burn jita. Not to the actual burning, no, but to the faction loving police because ccp's servers poo poo the bed and the perimeter > jita gate shut down Yeah, you're not getting that back. CCP generally does not reimburse ship losses caused as a result of server load. Gates, especially heavily trafficked ones such as Perimeter<->Jita, can shut down at any time and this is normal behavior. (And it used to be a daily occurrence back before Jita was put on a supernode.) PS: Burn Jita fleets are bored enough to hit DSTs/BRs. Hell, we pretty much cargo scan everything we see, which leads to quality kills like this Typhoon. I would not bring anything resembling a hauler anywhere near Jita or Perimeter right now. PPS: Holy poo poo, citadels being on grid with a gate makes suicide ganking so much easier to do these days. You can tether while perching and completely ignore the po-po.
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Related to hauling, I've sort of fallen into the logistics role for my Corp. It's weirdly enjoyable.
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ullerrm posted:Yeah, you're not getting that back. CCP generally does not reimburse ship losses caused as a result of server load.  on that petition then.Unless you're routinely ganking blue DSTs I'm sure I'd be fine however. Today has been a sack of poo poo for losses. Thanatos was one of the first primaries when ncdotte jumped into f7c, and I didn't insure it cause :stupid: 
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ullerrm posted:Hell, we pretty much cargo scan everything we see, which leads to quality kills like this Typhoon.  I have so many questions
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Klyith posted:
Most of them can probably be answered with "people are dumb".
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Jazzzzz posted:Most of them can probably be answered with "people are dumb". In eve, half the kills are of people being dumb.
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Klyith posted:
But only one answer.......it was a mercy killing.
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ullerrm posted:Yeah, you're not getting that back. CCP generally does not reimburse ship losses caused as a result of server load. :zip: Who fuckin' tonight who fuckin' tonight ow ow MorsAnima fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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MorsAnima posted:
Might wanna delete that. Iirc, sharing GM communication is a bannable offense under the EULA. You can say what they did or didn't do, but you can't share their exact text I think is the line. L0cke17 fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Feb 26, 2017 20:33
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Yeah delete that
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L0cke17 posted:Might wanna delete that. Iirc, sharing GM communication is a bannable offense under the EULA. You can say what they did or didn't do, but you can't share their exact text I think is the line. Well that's a poo poo rule.
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MorsAnima posted:Well that's a poo poo rule. It's intended so that people don't share exactly the right phrases to game the system, also so that people don't look at logs and say 'this guy got reimbursement for the same thing with this 1 thing different, give me mine back too'. It removes a lot of headache from an already overworked department.
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L0cke17 posted:It's intended so that people don't share exactly the right phrases to game the system, also so that people don't look at logs and say 'this guy got reimbursement for the same thing with this 1 thing different, give me mine back too'. It removes a lot of headache from an already overworked department. Huh, I knew the rule, but didn't know the reasoning. Makes sense now.
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L0cke17 posted:It's intended so that people don't share exactly the right phrases to game the system, also so that people don't look at logs and say 'this guy got reimbursement for the same thing with this 1 thing different, give me mine back too'. It removes a lot of headache from an already overworked department. It's also on the flip side -- if a GM is on the record as saying "X is banned" then players will quibble about the exact definition of X and try to get as close to X as they can without crossing the line, and then say "but I didn't do X (as defined by me), how can she slap" when they get banned. "Don't be bad" gives GMs way more leeway to poo poo on people, at the cost of discouraging people from finding bugs and broken corners in their code for fear of getting banned (i.e. look how often globby got poo poo on for no reason).
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L0cke17 posted:It's intended so that people don't share exactly the right phrases to game the system, also so that people don't look at logs and say 'this guy got reimbursement for the same thing with this 1 thing different, give me mine back too'. It removes a lot of headache from an already overworked department. iospace posted:Huh, I knew the rule, but didn't know the reasoning. Makes sense now. Consider me educated too. I was an arsehole in that ticket and they still gave me it back, which is great and I'm pleased but I'd already replaced it... WTS bustard, half-fit, PF-346.
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MorsAnima posted:Consider me educated too. I was an arsehole in that ticket and they still gave me it back, which is great and I'm pleased but I'd already replaced it... WTS bustard, half-fit, PF-346. Save it, you'll lose the other one soon enough
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yeah ccp gives the vast majority of petitioned things back, unless you're in a big nullsec fleetfight.
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you can word things without them being interpreted poorly. "You cannot delay CONCORD by any means whatsoever. Pre-spawning CONCORD or moving CONCORD is not considered delaying CONCORD." This has the side-effect of when CODE. accidentally (more like the server hiccuped) didn't have CONCORD spawn and got everyone on the killmail banned when there was no attempt at delay from anyone in fleet. CCP just doesn't know their own game so they can't actually put out rules that make sense.
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Why are people still using freighters anywhere near Jita at the moment? The first day I get, perhaps even early on the second day but on the third day... 
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Kalthor posted:Why are people still using freighters anywhere near Jita at the moment? There are people who are so insular, they don't even notice something like Burn Jita until they get blown up. They just do their own thing, until suddenly: Explosions.
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how do the 250k skill points for referral work now? if i already have an alpha character can someone refer me and then when I upgrade i get them or is it fresh account only
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:how do the 250k skill points for referral work now? if i already have an alpha character can someone refer me and then when I upgrade i get them or is it fresh account only Fresh account only as far as I know.
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Give me your referral code
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Give me your referral code http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=b72f3927-4686-4948-8f52-1471e78bfda6&action=buddy Go forth and use my referral code 
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I did so, send me some Isk 
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I did so, send me some Isk
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so when are HACs gonna be not poo poo
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Landsknecht posted:so when are HACs gonna be not poo poo in 2006/7? for some reason I remember them being good back then, but maybe I just have fond memories of my Damnation
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Jazzzzz posted:in 2006/7? for some reason I remember them being good back then, but maybe I just have fond memories of my Damnation they aren't bad now but they're worse than faction cruisers which cost 50m less
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Landsknecht posted:they aren't bad now but they're worse than faction cruisers which cost 50m less The only really good one is the Cerb right now. Vagabond/Deimos get shafted because they get local rep bonuses that dont work for fleet stuff. And a deimos can be out-tanked and nearly out dps'd by a phobos. Zealot is outclassed by a legion in every way for not much more isk. Sacrilege cant apply damage to anything, so its right out for anything even remotely approaching a fleet concept. Ishtars are still serviceable, but the nerf to both it and sentries hurts it quite badly. The Muninn just cant fit decent guns and a tank at all, might as well just fly canes for a third the price. And lastly the Eagle is still decent, but sniping rail doctrines get shat on by proteus/legion fleets so it has no niche to fill. I think a big problem with them might have been fixed by the incoming hic changes. One of their strengths was they could mwd kite and still sig-tank somewhat at range with their role bonus. Hics put a huge damper on mwd kiting doctrines that didnt have 100+km effective range, already pushing both minmatar ones to the wayside. The zealot is tanky as hell, but its cap and sig benefits mean youre locked into ABs only, and relatively short range, also making it relatively poor in the current nullsec meta (not to mention EM/Therm is the worst to shoot proteuses with). But the hic changes may make it possible to fly Muninns, eagles, and Ishtars again unironically.
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Landsknecht posted:so when are HACs gonna be not poo poo when are T3Cs gonna get nerfed? HACs and assfrigs would still be in a fine place, but T3s do the exact same thing only better. And the cost increase is fairly minimal (compared to the T1 -> T2 ~10x jump). If T3s aren't going to get big nerfs, the assault line needs a gimmick. The old CCP concept was T2 being specialized, but it turns out that "combat" isn't a valid specialty if something else does it better. I like the idea of using the new % based ewar resists to make them hardened. I don't know if it's enough -- T3s are pretty resistant to ewar just from their base stats, but maybe you could give them a small nerf in that area.
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Klyith posted:
That sounds good, I always loved the idea of using the Zealot in PVP, but the thought of my dumb laser-boat getting hit by tracking disruptors and other ewar gives me nightmares.
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Libluini posted:That sounds good, I always loved the idea of using the Zealot in PVP, but the thought of my dumb laser-boat getting hit by tracking disruptors and other ewar gives me nightmares. nanozealot is pretty good
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Libluini posted:That sounds good, I always loved the idea of using the Zealot in PVP, but the thought of my dumb laser-boat getting hit by tracking disruptors and other ewar gives me nightmares. I have never seen a tracking disruptor on anything other than a noob ewar fit.
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lucifirius posted:I have never seen a tracking disruptor on anything other than a noob ewar fit. They're really, really stupid if used right, and most people don't expect them. We had a small gang brawl and we didn't lose any ships because I undocked a triple TD crucifier and made a Proteus switch to Null in order to hit anything past 1km. You can effectively neuter any missile boat too except maybe RLML ships as well.
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iospace posted:They're really, really stupid if used right, and most people don't expect them. We had a small gang brawl and we didn't lose any ships because I undocked a triple TD crucifier and made a Proteus switch to Null in order to hit anything past 1km. You can effectively neuter any missile boat too except maybe RLML ships as well. Fit?
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lucifirius posted:Fit? code:Oh, and for what script to use? Depends on the weapon system. Long range systems, use tracking, short range use optimal range, with the caveat that the smaller the weapon system, the more likely you should use range disruption. It's largely situational, really.
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L0cke17 posted:In-game name? I'll consider it Calliou Nardieu, which is what you get when you random name a lot
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Whatever I could post here, it won't be as funny as that Typhoon. Next page please.
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