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WillyTheNewGuy posted:Like I said, magic sci-fi. Since you're fine with an unexplained modification of physics, lets say there is also a thing called "Politics Effect" that helps you control how much financial and popular support a project has. I'm not the one who has a problem with the premise of Andromeda. 
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Boru posted:One of my viewers encouraged me to stop being a scrub playing on Bronze and Silver, and just jump right to Platinum in ME3 multiplayer. Never tried to solo Platinum because I'm not a masochist. I did solo Gold a few times with the Krogan Mudertrain and the Turian Ghost Infiltrator, however.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:For the Andromeda Initiative to be reasonable you have to believe that a huge conglomeration of very rich people and government bureaucrats pick poetry and feels over other uses of their money and power in the here and now. It's not about me or you or the people who want to go. Its about the people who pay for it and stay behind. Rich people constantly spend money on monuments to themselves to propel their legacy into eternity, starting an entire offshoot of human civilization is a perfect example Every single chair on that ship has a gold plaque with some banker/lawyer's name on it Also I don't think anyone's noticed that this is basically a way to help cure the genophage. The genophage naturally goes away after a thousand years due to Krogan adaptability (that's why Mordin had to fix it), but the Samaritan government won't be around to fix it in Andromeda. Unless someone else takes up the task, the Andromeda Krogan are genophage-free after a millennium. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 03:25
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Zakmonster posted:Never tried to solo Platinum because I'm not a masochist. I did solo Gold a few times with the Krogan Mudertrain and the Turian Ghost Infiltrator, however. Yeah one dude who was giving me pointers stopped by as the Turian Ghost and proceeded to kill EVERYTHING on the map before I could even get to it. Dat Hurricane, man.
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I'm randomly pissed off that 90% of posters think that rich folks wouldn't fund space exploration even then it has no possible payoff within their lifetime. That's not just demonstrably wrong but really frickin cynical. The smarter you are, the more likely you are to care about alien life and space travel. It's magical and awesome, and it has nothing to do with payoff at all.
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Feb 27, 2017 03:39
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Zakmonster posted:Never tried to solo Platinum because I'm not a masochist. I did solo Gold a few times with the Krogan Mudertrain and the Turian Ghost Infiltrator, however. Soloing Platinum is actually not much harder than Gold as far as reflexes or whatever, what soloing Platinum requires is an intimate and tedious knowledge of wave spawns, a loving lot of patience, and a little bit of luck praying you don't get randomly sync killed in Wave 9 by a Banshee.
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Feb 27, 2017 03:41
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Overwatch is a different kind of game, and one of the selling points is the diversity of the main cast. You only have to look at WoW to see Blizzard reusing models and animation. I know. It was more wishful thinking really. It's a video game which unlike a movie could really make some wild and truly alien creations. Yet Bioware just makes bipedal, two armed models with the exception of the Elcor and Hanars which outside of ME1 are just static npcs. -Fake Edit- I forgot about the rachni but they probably use the same model the other animals in the game use.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:One of the original ending choices in ME1 if you let the council die was to agree with Udina's power grab and establish an all human council to rule the galaxy. That was completely abandoned for the sequel though. There was also a lot of human supremacist alien hater dialog for Shepard in ME1 too, like you could tell the turian councilor that you'd like to genocide his entire species and stuff To be fair, the idea of Udina's power grab as presented in Mass Effect 1 was completely implausible. It's hard to imagine humanity, fresh off the First Contact War, being able to assert that kind of control even if the Council did get offed. Too many established players in the field for that.
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Feb 27, 2017 03:45
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DoggPickle posted:I'm randomly pissed off that 90% of posters think that rich folks wouldn't fund space exploration even then it has no possible payoff within their lifetime. That's not just demonstrably wrong but really frickin cynical. What's it like in the alternate reality you live in? Because in the world I live in, Earth is going to be significantly less inhabitable in 100 years, leading to billions of deaths at a minimum, and rich people have the ability to fix this but are choosing not to because they can make more money actively causing the extinction of the human race then they can by preventing it. Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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precision posted:Soloing Platinum is actually not much harder than Gold as far as reflexes or whatever, what soloing Platinum requires is an intimate and tedious knowledge of wave spawns, a loving lot of patience, and a little bit of luck praying you don't get randomly sync killed in Wave 9 by a Banshee. I loving hate Banshees so much and nothing makes me happier than the fact that they are not in the game. As a Krogan Vanguard, they are the only thing I cannot deal with. I can take on Brute after Brute after Brute, one time literally, but a Banshee will just magnet grab me from half away across the map if I so much as look at her the wrong way, and my ability to fight her is super goddamn limited. My go to for Platnimum is typically either Salarian Engineer or Volus Adept. As a volus my entire game plan is to just glue myself to some one else and never stop healing
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People have said this before but the time compression in the setting for humanity stuff is way more hosed than anything else in the setting imo
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Milky Moor posted:Well, yes, actually. thats cause they know where to look though its different when its a needle in a haystack situation
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Feb 27, 2017 03:54
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Goddamn now I want to play some ME3MP but I think I deleted it off the PS3 and it's such a pain to download all the expansions. Maybe I'll just download the PC version and start all over with level 1 guns again  For Platinum I used the... Shadow? The Adept that could warp through walls and explode everything and looked kinda like Kasumi. Or the old standby Turian Sentinel, which I think is technically one of the best classes in the game. Or Suicide Bomber Asari Sentinel.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:What's it like in the alternate reality you live in? Because in the world I live in, Earth is going to be significantly less inhabitable in 100 years, leading to billions of deaths at a minimum, and rich people have the ability to fix this but are choosing not to because they can make more money actively causing the extinction of the human race then they can by preventing it. Yeah but there are also more than a few who are super interested in huge projects that celebrate themselves and position them as the future of humanity. Think Elon Musk or Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Theil. They have money and want a legacy or even sincerely believe they will live far into the future/forever In the game, GREAT examples include The Illusive Man and Miranda's dad. If you don't think they'd buy into this, you're crazy. The Illusive Man's name is Jack Harper and a lady named Cora Harper is the #2 on the ship, c'mon
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:What's it like in the alternate reality you live in? Because in the world I live in, Earth is going to be significantly less inhabitable in 100 years, leading to billions of deaths at a minimum, and rich people have the ability to fix this but are choosing not to because they can make more money actively causing the extinction of the human race then they can by preventing it. That's because "the ability to fix this" entails long term collective action to enact sweeping changes to how society operates. Guess what the Andromeda Initiative doesn't require from rich people? Anything more than an investment and vanity and/or eccentricity. They don't have to upend their own lives or undermine their own business.
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I'm still trying to find my way not to spend 65% of the platinum round on the floor. I played through with the Geth engineer a few times, and the Hunters Mode UI made me feel like I was playing with drunk goggles on the whole time. I'm gonna try Krogan vanguard next, though I just unlocked the N7 Fury too, and I hear good things about that kit. If anyone wants to play sometime, hit me up at Lanky_Nibz. Do we have a private server thread up for Andromeda yet?
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The AI this time is called SAM, so will it be a male EDI? If so, will we please in the sequel get SAM in a buff pornstar-bot body? As a romance option no less???
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Civilized Fishbot posted:The Illusive Man's name is Jack Harper and a lady named Cora Harper is the #2 on the ship, c'mon Wait really because that's amazing, either it will end up being a complete coincidence, which is hilarious, or it won't be, which will be double hilarious, especially if they got Martin Sheen to record a few lines for some email she keeps with her Her loyalty mission will involve finding her dad's greybox
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I found platinum was too stressful and I was never good enough at it to make it significantly better than Gold for money / hour.
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precision posted:Wait really because that's amazing, either it will end up being a complete coincidence, which is hilarious, or it won't be, which will be double hilarious, especially if they got Martin Sheen to record a few lines for some email she keeps with her TIM is my favourite. I hope he copied a rough approximation of himself to a VI/AI in Cora's luggage and pops out in a new galaxy to once again defend and uplift yoomanity.
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Boru posted:I'm still trying to find my way not to spend 65% of the platinum round on the floor. I played through with the Geth engineer a few times, and the Hunters Mode UI made me feel like I was playing with drunk goggles on the whole time. Vanguarding is hard until you get a better feel for it, and weapons and the right buffs can be pretty important. Every single class is viable in Platinum once you get some weapons leveled, but early on you can sort of bypass that by playing anybody who can set up and explode their own biotic or tech explosions. The Paladin in particular I remember being super easy to jump in and snap freeze/incinerate -> cryo explosion.
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precision posted:Wait really because that's amazing, either it will end up being a complete coincidence, which is hilarious, or it won't be, which will be double hilarious, especially if they got Martin Sheen to record a few lines for some email she keeps with her I'm personally betting on "it's not a coincidence, but it also isn't overly relevant either". She might reference her dad in passing ("my family were pretty well off back on Earth but I didn't want much to do with the family business so y'know") and leave it to series vets to infer from there. That would be consistent with their overall goal of having a fresh start for the franchise. Continuity, but not dwelling on it.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Continuity, but not dwelling on it. Going by Dragon Age, this might be the goal but I'm very dubious that they'll succeed.
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precision posted:For Platinum I used the... Shadow? The Adept that could warp through walls and explode everything and looked kinda like Kasumi. The Shadow was the Infiltrator with a teleporting sword attack. Doctor Spaceman posted:I found platinum was too stressful and I was never good enough at it to make it significantly better than Gold for money / hour.
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DoggPickle posted:I'm randomly pissed off that 90% of posters think that rich folks wouldn't fund space exploration even then it has no possible payoff within their lifetime. That's not just demonstrably wrong but really frickin cynical. I'm super sorry you don't understand human nature as demonstrated countless times over even the past 80 years. The only reason a corporation/megarich would pay for something 600 years out in the future with no contact would be if they're also the ones building the transport and the government was paying them to build it. Basically graft and corruption would allow the megarich to fund this thing. Of course, it's totally easy to accept that the plot happens as it does since it's Bioware's story, and it's science fiction / fantasy.  Not everything has to reflect reality. They say people paid for it, well, that's the start of the story, so it works.
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Our best hope is some Expanse spacemormon scenario. Nothing would get us to the stars than a nutty cult, unfortunately the Scientologist seem to like it here on earth prison
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precision posted:Her loyalty mission will involve finding her dad's greybox After which she will reward you with access to her box. Cora's his cousin.
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Platinum/Giant/Reapers was intensely boring but was also comically easy unless you got a particularly bad hack objective, and even then it only became mildly challenging. This is because literally all you have to do is Hold. The. Line. in the SW corner of the map, every enemy will start out very far away from you and even when they do get close they'll be coming at you down a hallway. Like you have to be a special kind of ME3MP pubbie to gently caress it up.
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Captain Oblivious posted:To be fair, the idea of Udina's power grab as presented in Mass Effect 1 was completely implausible. It's hard to imagine humanity, fresh off the First Contact War, being able to assert that kind of control even if the Council did get offed. Too many established players in the field for that. Shepard can express skepticism that the aliens would just let them take over, even saying they'll need to take it by force, but Udina doesn't seem terribly concerned. Humanity being fresh off the First Contact War didn't really stop them from doing anything else in the series either. I think it's relevant to what the poster said about humanity not wanting to share power in the setting though.
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DoggPickle posted:I'm randomly pissed off that 90% of posters think that rich folks wouldn't fund space exploration even then it has no possible payoff within their lifetime. That's not just demonstrably wrong but really frickin cynical. 
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DoggPickle posted:I'm randomly pissed off that 90% of posters think that rich folks wouldn't fund space exploration even then it has no possible payoff within their lifetime. That's not just demonstrably wrong but really frickin cynical. Peter Thiel would fund it just for the chance to get some of that sweet sweet alien blood and live forever.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:One of the original ending choices in ME1 if you let the council die was to agree with Udina's power grab and establish an all human council to rule the galaxy. That was completely abandoned for the sequel though. There was also a lot of human supremacist alien hater dialog for Shepard in ME1 too, like you could tell the turian councilor that you'd like to genocide his entire species and stuff Flipswitch posted:People have said this before but the time compression in the setting for humanity stuff is way more hosed than anything else in the setting imo
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Drifter posted:I'm super sorry you don't understand human nature as demonstrated countless times over even the past 80 years. The only reason a corporation/megarich would pay for something 600 years out in the future with no contact would be if they're also the ones building the transport and the government was paying them to build it. Benjamin Franklin, who was one of the richest men in America in his day, once invested money to be redeemed in 200 years for a project to benefit Philadelphia and Boston. It became a technical college. There's a long, LONG history of megarich people spending tons of money to create grand projects that will outlast them. Other examples include pretty much every private university. The Ark is to the Illusive Man and Miranda's dad as the Carnegie-Mellon Foundation is to Carnegie and Mellon. Oligarchs care about more than just making money. They care about creating a legacy for the future, especially one that lets them literally create a new civilization in their image.
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Geez people its just a plot element that is plausible in real life. You don't need to go full D&D and sink this thread into another layer of poo poo. Vote for the Elusive Man in 2017: Make Andromeda Great Again!
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Trast posted:Geez people its just a plot element that is plausible in real life. You don't need to go full D&D and sink this thread into another layer of poo poo. The Elusive Man is the Illusive Man's brother, voiced by Joe Estevez
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The one suggestion of this whole ridiculous discussion that I liked was the idea of wealthy backers coming on board the arks and expecting to form a ruling elite for their contributions. Especially if that subplot allowed you to turn Ryder into space Robespierre.
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Heck, we already know that things did not go to plan and there were conflicts shortly after arrival that turned members of the initiative against each other. Maybe that's why!
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Disgusted by this supremely unrealistic premise for a sci-fi game. A huge step down from the hard sci-fi, well thought out chronicle of Mass Effect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dhcBr0oUHM
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marshmallow creep posted:Heck, we already know that things did not go to plan and there were conflicts shortly after arrival that turned members of the initiative against each other. Maybe that's why! Nah, they just all wanted to gently caress the same Asari, that's why.
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