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Benson Cunningham posted:I know we're way off topic (par for the course, right?) but can people honestly not see that the rules of magic basketball are entirely ancillary to any points the game is used to make in the narrative? It'd be the same with any other aspect of the story that feels overly convenient. Arcane rules that the protagonist exploits in spirit but not in letter that everyone just lets slide even though everyone understands what the rules mean. A legal loophole that's oddly specific to the protagonist's situation that lets him win a court case. Running into the exact people that one knows and can benefit from without some at least halfassed reasonable explanation for why their paths might cross at that place and time. You'll notice most of the examples I just mentioned apply to Kvothe.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Would the game played in the Witcher series count, or was that game just inside the Witcher games and not something that ever got mentioned in the novels? anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 13:38
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The thing that annoys me about quidditch is that if you just removed the golden snitch and added a game clock it would at least have a scoring metric that made sense... the golden snitch just made it so the rest of the points only mattered if you completely sucked.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:08
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More professional sports should have an "instant win" condition. Imagine if soccer had a small circle on the field that if you score a goal in you automatically win. Or a set of three different hoops in an arching line that if you get a basketball through you win. Or a target high in the outfield that if a home run ball hits you win. That poo poo would be tiiiiiiight.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:25
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It's been a while since I read the books/saw the movies, but I don't think you automatically win when you catch the golden snitch, it's just worth a boatload of points and the game immediately ends.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:05
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Ornamented Death posted:It's been a while since I read the books/saw the movies, but I don't think you automatically win when you catch the golden snitch, it's just worth a boatload of points and the game immediately ends. Yeah, catching the snitch ends the game and scores 150 points (the equivalent of 15 regular goals)
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Ornamented Death posted:It's been a while since I read the books/saw the movies, but I don't think you automatically win when you catch the golden snitch, it's just worth a boatload of points and the game immediately ends. Oh I know. The game only ends when the golden snitch is caught which could be fine, its just worth way to many points. I think there is one time in all of the books where the team that caught the golden snitch did not win, and I think that was like the world championship or something. Basically in almost every match in the book the goals scored only matter for their separate house cup thing (which counts total points in everything) which is not actually related to the sport.
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Nakar posted:I mean you're not wrong but it's also possible to use something like that in a clunky or distracting way to people who are paying attention. Not because they insist that their fantastical games make sense and have perfectly viable rules, but because some aspect of the sport seems illogical or solely there to benefit the character(s) or themes in some blatant way. That the Seeker is the most important position in Quidditch to such a degree seems awfully convenient when Harry is a great Seeker. The books are built on a 150-year-old tradition of boarding-school stories; one of the most frequently-observed conventions of the genre, going all the way back to Tom Brown's Schooldays, is that the hero is a superstar at whatever sport is in season this term at their school; in the same way that cowboys have horses and are quick on the draw, and detectives have tragic pasts and dumpster-fire personal lives.
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Feb 15, 2017 18:54
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Benson Cunningham posted:I'd take Wolfe and Zelazny over pretty much anyone. Zelazny's my favorite sci-fi author, but I haven't read any Wolfe. Where would you suggest starting with him?
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Undeclared Eggplant posted:Zelazny's my favorite sci-fi author, but I haven't read any Wolfe. Where would you suggest starting with him? Book of the New Sun. Just dive right in.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:59
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Book of the New Sun is his magnum opus and is super radical, but may require more work than a typical book to complete and comprehend. Fifth Head of Cerberus or The Island of Dr. Death and Other Stories and Other Stories are pretty awesome short story collections with some interrelationships between different stories. Like everything he writes, nothing is spelled out for you- you have to seek out the connections yourself if you want to find them. It's a treat though. I wish I could go back and read New Sun for the first time again. It is at times delightful, sad, strange, or downright terrifying (looking at you, Alzabo)
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Feb 15, 2017 20:27
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Reminder:Rothfuss posted:I'm putting effort into arranging my life in such a way that I can be happier, healthier, and more productive in the future -- so I can write even more books. Lastly, every creative person I know is behind on every project right now, because the politics in the US are a dumpster fire and we are all terrified and we are trying hard to fix it. How can I tell beautiful stories when I'm scared about the world my children will grow up in. Help me impeach Trump.
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I'm also halfway through Book of the Long Sun and it's loving excellent, it's also a lot less intimidating of a work than New Sun so it would probably be a good place to jump in. It's probably the most overtly Catholic of Wolfe's works, if that's a dealbreaker for you.
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I wanna help impeach Trump. Is there some blog I can comment on or youtube video I can like? That's how presidents get impeached right?
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Solice Kirsk posted:I wanna help impeach Trump. Is there some blog I can comment on or youtube video I can like? That's how presidents get impeached right? I really just feel that, if we created exactly the right Harry Potter analogy and showed to our internet friends, then Donald Trump wouldn't be President anymore.
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Feb 19, 2017 05:12
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I remember when all I had to anxiously wait for was was Martin's next book... 
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I find Rothfuss' lack of output more infuriating than Martin's for some reason. I don't even like the kingkiller books that much!
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Tree Dude posted:I find Rothfuss' lack of output more infuriating than Martin's for some reason. I don't even like the kingkiller books that much! I think there is better drama around Rothfuss's third book than Martin's sixth. We know what to expect from Martin, and we know to expect it on a delayed timeline. With Rothfuss, maybe we have all fallen for the long con and the book will be amazing. Or maybe it will be a beautiful trainwreck, and we along with Rothfuss will create a drama so irresistible, that the world, upon seeing it, will not be able to look away.
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Feb 20, 2017 19:08
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Maybe he'll just cancel the series and start writing short stories about Bast. I liked his short story about Bast.
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Feb 20, 2017 23:51
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You know what genre fiction writer I'd like see finish her trilogy? Melanie Rawn. I don't remember anything about the first two books at this point. I'm sure they were dreadful in hindsight. I'd still be infinitely more excited to hear a street date for her book than the third Rothfuss novel.
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Tree Dude posted:I find Rothfuss' lack of output more infuriating than Martin's for some reason. I don't even like the kingkiller books that much! That's because Rothfuss' attitude about the lack of output is more infuriating than Martin's. Martin is unapologetic, but Rothfuss is downright pretentious.
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Feb 21, 2017 00:49
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It's enjoyable for reasons that are completely distinct from the reasons the book is enjoyable.
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Speaking of Trilogy's that come out on schedule, V.E. Schwob's A Conjuring of Light comes out tomorrow.
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PJOmega posted:You know what genre fiction writer I'd like see finish her trilogy? Melanie Rawn. I don't remember anything about the first two books at this point. I'm sure they were dreadful in hindsight. It's always fun when I remember Exiles is a thing through the randomness of the internet. I went and checked and the last time she said anything about The Captal's Tower was in 2014. Would be hilarious if it ended up releasing before Rothfuss or Martin's next books though.
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PneumonicBook posted:It's always fun when I remember Exiles is a thing through the randomness of the internet. I went and checked and the last time she said anything about The Captal's Tower was in 2014. Would be hilarious if it ended up releasing before Rothfuss or Martin's next books though. Yeah. I don't even hold any ill-will towards Melanie Rawn over the cancellation. Death of a parent is hard, especially when they were a close inspiration for your writing. She never seemed to have the drat chip that Rothfuss had over it. Though admittedly that might've been because not every pithy statement could be launched to an audience of thousands with 141 keystrokes.
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Did Rothfuss not take an advance on the third entry? Do advances no longer come with carefully stipulated contractual obligations to submit X words on paper before Y years have elapsed? I find it hard to believe he can get away with making GBS threads into the wind for much longer, given the state of the modern publishing industry tbqh.
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Rime posted:Did Rothfuss not take an advance on the third entry? Do advances no longer come with carefully stipulated contractual obligations to submit X words on paper before Y years have elapsed?
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The fireworks will start if he ever decides he wants to leave his contract.
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Rothfuss is still contractually-obligated to write a third book, but in the event he officially decides to never write it, it's doubtful he'd owe his publisher anything from advances since the first two books have almost certainly earned out any advance he was paid (assuming he signed a contract for the entire series rather than for individual books, which seems likely).
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I'd be shocked if his contract wasn't for the entire series what with all three books having already been written and everything.
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This made me chuckle sensibly https://twitter.com/Inxile_Ent/status/835934741174050825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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RentACop posted:This made me chuckle sensibly The slow regard of lazy writing.
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Evil Fluffy posted:The slow regard of lazy writing. Is Auri modeled off of that high school girl he's been obsessed with for 15+ years? The one he wrote a superbly creepy blog post about?
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pentyne posted:Is Auri modeled off of that high school girl he's been obsessed with for 15+ years? The one he wrote a superbly creepy blog post about? The one where he says he'd like to have sex with a stripper?
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BananaNutkins posted:The one where he says he'd like to have sex with a stripper? Link us up to the Rothfuss crazy train.
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PJOmega posted:Link us up to the Rothfuss crazy train. This is old hat: http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2012/02/concerning-hobbits-love-and-movie-adaptations/ tl;dr he talks about the idea of finding a high school crush on a porn site and how being in porn would ruin everything he liked about a woman, and compares this to the Hobbit movies.
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Reene posted:This is old hat: http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2012/02/concerning-hobbits-love-and-movie-adaptations/ Thank you for the link, I try not to keep a mental catalogue of genre fiction writer's weird attitudes towards sex and people.
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PJOmega posted:Thank you for the link, I try not to keep a mental catalogue of genre fiction writer's weird attitudes towards sex and people. You should do that
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I played Tak again this weekend. It really is a pretty fun drinking game. And it says "A beautiful game" right on the box.
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A human heart posted:You should do that There's mostly a shortcut that says "they're bad unless judged otherwise." Saves a lot of space.
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