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Honestly the main problem Moonlight has in terms of it having any influence on the industry at all is that, despite the hype and the Oscar win, it's not making any money, which has nothing to do with the Academy and is the only thing that will actually matter in the long run.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:Ya this part was horrible, uggghhhh Here's the part that kills me That poo poo you can argue was fantasy The stuff in this episode actually loving happened
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Feb 27, 2017 17:05
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This'll be my first Sword and Scale episode then - in the meantime, I'm up to 3121 in Prince's discography, and he still hasn't made a mediocre record.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:11
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K. Waste posted:This'll be my first Sword and Scale episode then - in the meantime, I'm up to 3121 in Prince's discography, and he still hasn't made a mediocre record. I really like 3121.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:17
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glam rock hamhock posted:Honestly the main problem Moonlight has in terms of it having any influence on the industry at all is that, despite the hype and the Oscar win, it's not making any money, which has nothing to do with the Academy and is the only thing that will actually matter in the long run. Plenty of well-remembered and well-regarded movies didn't make much of a financial splash upon release. Not saying that's the case here, but don't discount a movie's legs on the initial box-office numbers.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:20
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Plus, while the DVD market has kinda tanked, winning Best Picture does tend to do great things for a movie's DVD/VOD numbers. Everybody who didn't see it in theaters is gonna feel like they have to see it now. The Oscars have been doing pretty well with Best Picture lately. The past four winners have all been really good movies that would be either my first or second pick among the nominees. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 17:22
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Dissapointed Owl posted:*tugs collar nervously*  Uncle Boogeyman posted:Granted I thought Hell or High Water was one of the most overrated movies of the year, but it definitely didn't deserve original screenplay over Manchester by the Sea, or The Lobster for that matter. HAHW was a really solid, well-made film that couldn't be faulted, but it lacked something for me which would have made it really great which I think Moonlight, Manchester and even LLL (in a different way) had. I think perhaps it's ambition or the degree of risk-taking in the film and the story, which means that when one pulls it off (as the latter 3 do) they achieve greatness (or close to it). HAHW couldn't have been much better than it was, but even at its very best it wasn't quite great.
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therattle posted:HAHW was a really solid, well-made film that couldn't be faulted, but it lacked something for me which would have made it really great which I think Moonlight, Manchester and even LLL (in a different way) had. I think perhaps it's ambition or the degree of risk-taking in the film and the story, which means that when one pulls it off (as the latter 3 do) they achieve greatness (or close to it). HAHW couldn't have been much better than it was, but even at its very best it wasn't quite great. I'm of the opinion that it's a fine movie which only really stands out because they don't make movies like that anymore. If the American Film system didn't suck so bad right now, we'd be getting like ten Hell or High Waters a year.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:46
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glam rock hamhock posted:Honestly the main problem Moonlight has in terms of it having any influence on the industry at all is that, despite the hype and the Oscar win, it's not making any money, which has nothing to do with the Academy and is the only thing that will actually matter in the long run.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:52
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Plus, while the DVD market has kinda tanked, winning Best Picture does tend to do great things for a movie's DVD/VOD numbers. Everybody who didn't see it in theaters is gonna feel like they have to see it now. Yeah I remember Spirited Away being one that only really picked up steam with most people after it got an Oscar.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:52
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Slugworth posted:On a financial level, an Oscar is about building value for the next film that the Oscar winner makes/stars in. Academy award winning Mahershala Ali's next film will get a few more people into the theater. If past trends are any indication it means he gets to be in a superhero movie.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:52
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weekly font posted:If past trends are any indication it means he gets to be in a superhero movie. He was already the best part of Luke Cage, which I didn't finish.
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weekly font posted:If past trends are any indication it means he gets to be in a superhero movie. He was in Luke Cage
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Feb 27, 2017 17:54
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:He was already the best part of Luke Cage, which I didn't finish. Oh poo poo didn't even know he was in it. Now that makes me interested in starting it and not finishing it.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:55
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I mean he's technically in Hidden Figures which came out after Moonlight and did great box office numbers.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:58
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Holy poo poo, just when you think Peter Scully is the scum of the Earth, whoa, stop the presses, here comes the fuckin' FBI...
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Feb 27, 2017 18:02
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I can’t believe that Oscar thing happened
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Someone on twitter was pointing out that all of the producers who get the credit for the best picture award for Moonlight are white, whereas one of the producers of Manchester by the Sea is a black woman, which I feel like is something worth bearing in mind for the "symbolic victory" crowd. That's odd, the ones that went up on stage were mostly black, as was the guy who gave the speech.
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Feb 27, 2017 19:17
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Man I forgot how good American Movie (1999) is. Almost perfect
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Maxwell Lord posted:That's odd, the ones that went up on stage were mostly black, as was the guy who gave the speech. I assume they brought the whole cast & crew up as they often do but Adele Romanski, Dede Gardner, and Jeremy Kleiner, the three who actually won the award, are all white. this was the tweet I mentioned that pointed it out: https://twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/836095361907294208 Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 19:26
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Vegetable posted:I can’t believe that Oscar thing happened Steve Harvey is probably feeling really good now.
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bows1 posted:Man I forgot how good American Movie (1999) is. Almost perfect Now listen to the commentary with Borchard.
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Feb 27, 2017 19:35
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!!! Didnt know that existed
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I assume they brought the whole cast & crew up as they often do but Adele Romanski, Dede Gardner, and Jeremy Kleiner, the three who actually won the award, are all white.
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Feb 27, 2017 19:36
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Vegetable posted:The Best Picture award goes to producers because not everybody can get an oscar. Nobody with half a pea brain thinks it celebrates anything less than the entire cast and crew. People getting mad need to get hosed. Yeah it's a pretty impressively bad/ignorant take.
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Feb 27, 2017 19:39
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Vegetable posted:The Best Picture award goes to producers because not everybody can get an oscar. Nobody with half a pea brain thinks it celebrates anything less than the entire cast and crew. People getting mad need to get hosed. I mean, it goes to producers because it's a producer's award. The directors have best director, the actors have best actor, the producers have best picture. These awards all exist primarily to bump up someone's CV.
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weekly font posted:Oh poo poo didn't even know he was in it. Now that makes me interested in starting it and not finishing it.
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bows1 posted:!!! Didnt know that existed It's rad, it's got the same charm as the film itself where Borchard just defies every opportunity presented to be self absorbed.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's rad, it's got the same charm as the film itself where Borchard just defies every opportunity presented to be self absorbed. It's amazing how well the movie threads the needle between being too sympathetic or too cruel. I wonder how big an influence it had on all the cringe humor we got in the 2000s — you can draw a pretty direct line, but I guess it's probably mostly Christopher Guest instead
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so did the oscars cure racism or make it worse?
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MacheteZombie posted:so did the oscars cure racism or make it worse? Like always it did nothing in either direction. I did just read an article on the Boston globe website about how the producer for La La Land that corrected the best picture snafu is a hero and it reads like it's being ironic because of how bad it is but I'm pretty sure it's 100% serious
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morestuff posted:I wonder how big an influence it had on all the cringe humor we got in the 2000s — you can draw a pretty direct line, but I guess it's probably mostly Christopher Guest instead Speaking of Guest, I was surprised by just how terribly un-funny Mascots was. I mean, I've re-watched Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show recently, and they both hold up, so it's not like I've aged out of the mockumentary style of humor, but holy Moses, everyone in Mascots except Parker Posey, Ed Begley Jr. and John Michael Higgins is absolutely sleepwalking through the entire thing.
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Death By The Blues posted:Another screengrab. This reminds me of an 80's music video. But I mean that in a good way. Looks dope!
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Feb 27, 2017 20:09
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glam rock hamhock posted:Like always it did nothing in either direction. I did just read an article on the Boston globe website about how the producer for La La Land that corrected the best picture snafu is a hero and it reads like it's being ironic because of how bad it is but I'm pretty sure it's 100% serious oh my god I have to read this
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:oh my god I have to read this quote:Every generation needs a hero, and, ladies and gentlemen, 36-year-old “La La Land” producer Jordan Horowitz might just be ours. https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/mo...tIJI/story.html
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Yeah that's heroic as gently caress
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Brb working on a screenplay about this hero.
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That man was later executed by the La-La-stapo
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