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Haifisch posted:Half of Ice's problem is that Gamefreak insists on statting most Ice types to be slow and bulky instead of glass cannons. It's the same problem Rock has. The few glass cannons of either type tend to be good, or at least okay. Rock, at least, does have actual resistences. They're not the most useful of resistences, but they at least exist. Also yeah gen 3's only new bug moves were Signal Beam, Silver Wind & Tail Glow (which only went to Volbeat).
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rannum posted:Rock, at least, does have actual resistences. They're not the most useful of resistences, but they at least exist. Rock's issue was that Rock started as decent typing that has gotten worse and worse and emphasis has moved farther and farther away from Normal types being one of the only 'coverage' types available to most Pokémon. This has kinda carried over since Gen 1 and has lead to an over-saturation of bulky Rock-types that take hits like garbage. Only Gen 7 seems to have more offensive-oriented rock types then bulky tankers.
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Rock was an okay defensive typing at first. Then Steel came along and did the job that Rock was meant to do. It's really not a good defensive type now, and Game Freak at least acknowledged that in Sun and Moon. It's a good attacking type at the very least. Which is why Stealth Rock is one of the best moves in the game (in singles. Doubles is a different story.)
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I think GameFreak acknowledged that since Rock types get abilities like Sturdy and Filter. One problem rock types have I find is that - yeah they have fantastic defence and as a result tend to have lowish HP. Okay, that's fine - then you throw in a ground weakness and an incredibly low special defence stat when most of the super effective moves against them are special. Rock could probably be a decent typing if a pokemon was pure rock or a type that compliments its weaknesses and gave it mostly utility and chip away moves with passive healing abilities. Something that gives it that "you have to weather the rock in order to beat it" than a quick squirt from a super soaker sends the bolder flying into the air into a billion pieces. If anything rock should lose its weakness to water. While water can erode away rock in life, it isn't until consistent and steady erosion that really does it - that and water getting into the cracks and freezing. If they take the water eroding rock away as the reason why rock is weak to it - might as well make rock weak to flying because wind picking up sediments and weathering down rock is a thing too. That said, even with all the weaknesses Rhydon is still boss.
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WilliamAnderson posted:At least bug is okay now. Ice is still poo poo because of so many weaknesses. WHY IS IT WEAK TO ROCK AND STEEL OF ALL THINGS? Fighting too. It's literally weak to the most commonly used types in the competitive scene. Stealth Rock? X2 Damage. Mach Punch? Weak to. Bullet Punch? Weak to. It literally can't take a hit from the heavy hitters, as they have the most common priority moves it's weak to.
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Silegna posted:WHY IS IT WEAK TO ROCK AND STEEL OF ALL THINGS? Fighting too. It's literally weak to the most commonly used types in the competitive scene. It literally only resists itself. Give it a resistance to water and grass at least maybe.
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That change over time of Rock defensively is pretty neat. I like that person in Moon/Sun who is impressed with the Rock Captain for using a defensively weak type in contrast to NPCs gushing about how bulky and strong they are like they used to. Most of the time it wasn't even true. Just a cool quirk you only really appreciate if you played the old games as well. I'll admit I didn't really notice until I met that NPC though. Also on the subject of both Sun/Moon and X-Scissor, I like that Leech Life is now just a straight-up upgrade to it. Although older games would be rough as heck with that change. All those zubats with that as their only move. 
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That was the main thing that scared me when I heard that Leech Life was buffed. Fortunately, they seem to have replaced it with Absorb. Feels kind of strange seeing that.
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Update 47: Back to Start Rival Challenge Oh that's the sharp edges I was feeling. Though at the same time, they seem a bit duller than usual.    : ...Since I lost to you, I thought about what I was lacking with my POKéMON... And we came up with an answer. MARINA, now we'll show you!Rival Battle  Terran's back and sporting a new battle sprite! Does that make him in any way a challenge to us now that we're in Kanto?   The fact that I said Kanto should tell you the answer.   So since this is another uninteresting rival battle, we'll just skip around it. I don't feel like I'm missing much, any rival battle aside from the last one are never really that impressive anyway.   His team could also be good, but he's still got terrible movesets and unevolved Pokemon.   But at least he finally traded with someone!   That'll do.   : I though I raised my POKéMON to be the best they could be... ...But it still wasn't enough...Rival Challenge : ...You won, fair and square. I admit it. But this isn't the end. I'm going to become the greatest POKéMON trainer ever. Because these guys are behind me. ...Listen, MARINA. One of these days I'm going to prove how good I am by beating you. Wow, he's slowly changing for the better. I'm almost starting to like the guy. Mt. Moon  Mt. Moon was an entire update in the last LP, can't wait to see how big and expansive it's gotten two years later. Mt. Moon Square  Ooh, well this place is new and kinda interesting.   It's, uh, a bit empty though.   Let's see what else is here in this cave.   ...o-oh, that's it? That's the entirety of Mt. Moon? Cool  Okay, admittedly there is a bit more to this place, but not much. First, let's come back when the shop is actually open.    Sooooo, quick way to buy vending machine drinks and a unique mail, but that's about it.  Now if we come back on a Monday night...     We interrupt a mating ritual.   And if we smash the rock, we can find a hidden Moon Stone. You can do this every Monday night as many times as you want, meaning Moon Stones are infinite! Which is good cause you need 4 of the drat things. Route 4Well, while Mt. Moon didn't have much to it, it had something new, so that's fine with me. It's just cut content that I don't like.     Oh yeah, we're back to normal trainers. Yay.   You need to head there right now!   "battle with me?"  Okay, the level curve in this game is getting a bit silly.      : That's how to do it.  Last trainer of the route.   Okay   Well that was a lot of fun, let's tie up one more loose end.    "Thanks!"  We're nearly done with trades in this game.  This Crystal only trade gives us another Metal Coat to use, meaning you don't have to trade from another game to get a second one.    Otherwise, pretty bog standard.   Before we head to new places, it's time for an Egg interlude.   We've now got all the Pokemon necessary to make babies, so thankfully we're nearly done.    HP: 45 | ATK: 63 | DEF: 37 | SP.ATK: 65 | SP.DEF: 55 | SPD: 95 | TOTAL: 360  #154: ElekidOne baby left! Route 2  Let's properly explore this route by heading into the empty husk that is Viridian Forest. Yaaaaaay?       All that's in here is a bunch of items. Wasn't that dungeon fun?   Still lots of goodies of the right side of the route, so we'll backtrack slightly.   : I work as PROF. OAK's AIDE. I had no idea that you were out here. PROF. OAK's LAB is nearby in PALLET TOWN.   : You're the first visitor I've had in a long time. I'm super-happy! Let me give you a little present.  : I can't give you any nuggets of wisdom, so that'll have to do!    Bugs bugs bugs    : I love how they feel! "lose!"    "POKéMON."These bug catchers we beat up 3 years ago never left it seems. Viridian City We're almost back at the beginning, but that doesn't mean there's nothing to do in this city.    : I need to talk to someone, so you'll have to do! I might not look like much now, but I was an expert of catching POKéMON. My memory is a bit fuzzy, did you multiply items or something? Sure, yeah.   I could really use 128 Master Balls about now...   GIOVANNI??? No, that's not right...  "until recently.": A young man from PALLET became the LEADER, but he's often away.It's Oak, isn't it?   Hmm, in a moment.   : I must have dozed off in the sun. ...I had his dream about a DROWZEE eating my dream. Weird, huh? Huh? What's this? Where did this TM come from? This is spooky! Here, you can have this TM. : TM42 contains DREAM EATER... ...Zzzzz... Alright, let's now enter this newfangled institution.    : We're open to trainers only. You can battle against the best of the best right downstairs.Let's go then.  : You may battle a trainer once per day. CAL is your opponent today. Would you like to battle?Sounds dangerous, let's do it! : Please go right through. You may begin right away. "could battle you."  Okay, that's definitely interesting, haven't had a trainer use one of those before.   And I'm quite glad.   Are you starting to see the pattern?     Still, it's the most challenge we've faced for a while and it's an interesting team.   But of course there's still more to this place, a lot more than you'd think.  Let's change a few things and see what happens. Trainer Battle (Kanto)  VS PKMN Trainer Carrie   The main feature of the Trainer House is being able to refight trainers via Mystery Gift. If you do nothing with Mystery Gift, like most of you will, then you'll only fight Trainer Cal and his three starters. However, if you do use Mystery Gift, then that person will be here with an exact copy of their team.   But there's one very special trainer you could Mystery Gift with if you have no one else and that's Carrie in Pokemon Stadium 2. If she's the last person you did Mystery Gift with via the Transfer Pak, then she has 3 teams she could face you with. We're using the second team since it's more well rounded and has a couple Pokemon we haven't seen before. The other two teams can be found here if you were curious.   How exactly am I facing her though? Obviously I'm not doing it the legit way, I just edited the Trainers using a program I found, it really is that easy!     While most of her Pokemon aren't particularly interesting, there are two that I wanna see.   HP: 85 | ATK: 80 | DEF: 90 | SP.ATK: 105 | SP.DEF: 95 | SPD: 60 | TOTAL: 515  #216: Porygon2  Sharpen (Kakubaru: Improve Angles) is a Normal status move, with 30PP that raises the user's Attack by one stage. Guess you don't have Swords Dance, huh?   It manages to work out, cause Mothra ain't the most defensive tank. But time to move on to the next Poke of interest.   HP: 70 | ATK: 130 | DEF: 100 | SP.ATK: 55 | SP.DEF: 80 | SPD: 65 | TOTAL: 500  #111: Scizor Well that patches up your lacklustre speed.   Congrats on picking the worst Steel type move. Out of two. Metal Claw (Metaru Kurō) is a Steel move with 50BP, 35PP and 95% accuracy that has a 10% chance of raising the user's Attack by one stage. Yes it's a worse Meteor Mash, but that move doesn't exist yet, so shhhhh.     ...Kamina? nearly doomed my whole team, but Jeremiah is just the best.  Last one out and it's a toughie. Aha, just kidding, it has 35 Attack.   Just kidding again! It's actually FUCKIN BULLSHIT. And working off a better 55 Special Attack. Will Churchill defrost in time?   No. Still, that was fun and maybe it's a good way to grind. Once a day? Okay, maybe not. Kanto Route 22 We only have one reason to ever come to this route, but might as well see what's, uh, changed?   You can find various Pokemon from Route 27 and 28 on this route. Did you know that? I didn't know that, how crazy.     But at least they haven't changed this route in the slightest. Cause what the hell could you change about this route? Route 1 We've still got one more town to visit in this update and it's one hell of a nostalgic journey to get there.   "do is battle."Though there's some new things to this route and I DON'T LIKE CHANGE    RIP your streak    Can't believe there's a load of strong trainers ready to beat up greenhorn guys.     Despite all the low level trainers around, my guys are still somehow getting levels.   : You obviously must have trained hard. Pallet Town Pallet Town: A Tranquil Setting of Peace and Purity (Pallet is a set of colours) Masara Town: Masara is colored with pure white. (Masara comes from massara, brand new, or masshiro, pure white)  Can't sleep in any of the houses after our long journey, so let's visit Oak! Oak's Pokemon Lab   : What do you think of the trainers out here? Pretty tough, huh? Ah, you're collecting KANTO GYM BADGES. I imagine that it's hard, but the experience is sure to help you. Come see me when you get them all. I'll have a gift for you. Keep trying hard, MARINA! : Let's see... Current POKéDEX completion level:  : Are you trading your POKéMON? It's tough to do this alone! If you're in the area, I hope you come visit again.   : PROF. OAK, how is your research coming along? I'm still plugging away. I heard rumors that MARINA is getting quite a reputation. I'm delighted to hear that. What a goddamn goon Pallet Town Who the gently caress is this noob?    : He hasn't called either, so I have no idea where he is or what he's been doing. They say that no word is proof that he's doing fine, but I do worry about him. I worry about RED getting hurt of sick, but he's a boy. I'm proud that he is doing what he wants to do.   "in a long time..."Well this is depressing, but I mean if he isn't using this stuff...  Next door better be more upbeat.    : But he goes out of town so often, it causes problems for the trainers. : You can now trade POKéMON across time like e-mail. And that's all for this update. Next time, it's the Battle Arcade! Oh yeah, I can tell you're excited! I know I am! RNG! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah! Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Happy 21st birthday Pokemon, drink responsibly now. And happy 1st birthday to this LP! It seems my workload is about 60 updates per year, which is weirdly more than one a week. Also, since we're doing the Battle Arcade next, there's still just TWO slots for that facility in 4-7 and then ONE slot for Castle 4-7. I won't ask again, promise! If you haven't submitted a Pokemon yet then please do and you'll be featured in literally the next update, god what else can I bribe you people with??? Love you guys lots and lots, here's to a new Pokemon LP from me within like three months? Hopefully?
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Feb 28, 2017 01:06
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That traded magneton sure has a moveset.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:09
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An Aerodactyl named Team Left with Rock Smash Flamethrower Rest Sleeptalk 
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Sjs00 posted:An Aerodactyl named Team Left Team Right will not be snuffed out so easily. 
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I really don't like Silver's Kanto sprite. It looks like he has the longest, sharpest nose. He looks incredibly off-model, even reminds me of that scene of YGO Abridged where the Pharaoh complains about Kaiba's nose and the animators. Which I'd link to if I could find it.
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Feb 28, 2017 02:54
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If it's bad animation, it's probably after Battle City. Or during a filler arc. Also, I thought for sure Silver had his Crobat at this point.
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You don't really show it off, but what's funny is that wild pokemon levels start out what you'd expect for postgame once you enter Kanto. But as you get close to Pallet, they suddenly drop off to L2 and L3 again. It does increase the feeling of nostalgia.
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Carbon dioxide posted:You don't really show it off, but what's funny is that wild pokemon levels start out what you'd expect for postgame once you enter Kanto. But as you get close to Pallet, they suddenly drop off to L2 and L3 again. It does increase the feeling of nostalgia. I feel this nostalgia is sort of lost once you run into level 3 ponytas and level 2 Noctowls
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I haven't been able to show it off because there's hardly any Pokemon to catch. If I don't get anything in a new route it's cause there's gently caress all there that we haven't already found in the wild, or happened to evolve. Also these levels are like this for the entirety of Kanto. Like in the mid teens around Saffron and in the low levels past Cerulean towards Pewter.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:If it's bad animation, it's probably after Battle City. Or during a filler arc. It's Battle City, it was the Yugi/Kaiba vs Lumis/Umbra duel. I can't find a video of the Abridged version though, with Atem complaining about Kaiba's suddenly gigantic nose. Carbon dioxide posted:You don't really show it off, but what's funny is that wild pokemon levels start out what you'd expect for postgame once you enter Kanto. But as you get close to Pallet, they suddenly drop off to L2 and L3 again. It does increase the feeling of nostalgia. Nostalgia makes for really lovely gameplay, and only intensifies the awful level curve of GSC. Also Crosspeice, you put Elekid's Pokedex twice in the update, both before and after the information image.
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Feb 28, 2017 20:12
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Cheers, fixed. Soooooo, anyone fancy submitting a Frontier Pokemon? I'll use literally anything.
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Sunken. 0 IVs in everything and 0 EVs in everything. Name: Sprout Nature: Adamant Moveset: -Absorb  In all seriousness, has anyone submitted Breloom? I think the standard SubPunch set would suffice. Name: Saitama Nature: Adamant Item: Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal EVs: 4 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD Moveset: -Substitute -Spore -Focus Punch -Seed Bomb Araxxor fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Ah good, I was about to say I'll use the drat Sunkern if I don't get 3 more submissions, but now I only need 2 more submissions! But I get it, there's not too too much motivation to submit stuff and if we weren't that close I would've been fine with it and used a few things, but we're just so close so I need to keep hassling and I really feel like I'm bugging the thread, which wouldn't surprise me if that put people off more! Still, thanks to all that submitted and just in general to everyone that reads, y'all cool.
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Crosspeice posted:Ah good, I was about to say I'll use the drat Sunkern if I don't get 3 more submissions, but now I only need 2 more submissions! I know I submitted a Garchomp before, but hey if no one else will... Ditto named TrueSelf Nature: Naive EVs: 252 HP/252 Speed Item: Quick Powder (or whatever the ditto item for speed is) Moves: Transform, transform, transform and, of course, transform. rannum fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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rannum posted:I know I submitted a Garchomp before, but hey if no one else will... Quick Powder doesn't apply after Ditto's transformed.
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Dabir posted:Quick Powder doesn't apply after Ditto's transformed. Well the idea is to transform first thing. If you use Choice Scarf I think you just lock yourself into struggle after transforming. I guess Focus Sash would work, but I wasn't sure how common stuff like Sandstorm was.
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gently caress it, another submission. Species: Gyarados Name: Skullkraken Nature: Adamant Item: Life Orb Ability: Intimidate EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 HP Moveset: -Waterfall -Earthquake -Crunch -Dragon Dance
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rannum posted:Well the idea is to transform first thing. If you use Choice Scarf I think you just lock yourself into struggle after transforming. I guess Focus Sash would work, but I wasn't sure how common stuff like Sandstorm was. The problem with Ditto is that none of the IVs and EVs aside from HP really matter after transforming. They're all copies of the opponent. That Ditto is gonna speed tie with whatever they transformed into (Unless the opponent is holding a speed boosting item), meaning that using Ditto is a coin flip. On top of the setup needed to actually get the Ditto to Transform in the first place, makes it an unappealing Pokemon.
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Thanks everyone, I knew whining would work eventually! But I know participation is voluntary and I'm always glad when people post, it's nice. I'll happily take a Ditto, it's perfect for the Arcade, the realm of coin flips! Now to record!
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Species: Houndoom Name: BlueFlame Nature: Timid Item: Passho Berry Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 252 Sp. Att/252 Spd/6 Sp. Def Moveset: - Nasty Plot - HP Grass - Dark Pulse - Fire Blast Is it possible to get a Shiny with 70 Power HP Grass?
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Shininess is tied to a completely separate value other than IVs (or DVs in Gens I and II) since Gen III, so yes. Also for that matter, gender is no longer tied to those as well.
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I kinda thought that they wanted to add some ambiguity to who the Viridian Gym Leader actually was. Then Daisy is all "It's Blue." Add me to the list of those who thought Silver had Crobat in that fight.
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I find it really haunting that Red's mom bought him an N64 to replace his SNES, but he's probably never been home to play it yet.
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Alright, that's all the Battle Frontier Pokemon done aside from the Battle Hall, but we'll get to that later. I've moved a few things around, so only Sjs00, MagnusofStars and rannum have entered in two Pokemon, so sorry Sjs00, your Abomasnow did not make the cut. rannum's Ditto and Haifisch's Gyarados will be in the Battle Arcade 4-7, while Some Number's Houndoom and Dr. Fetus's Breloom will be Battle Castle 4-7. Also no one really remembered that you can't take hold items into those facilities, but that's understandable, I don't expect everyone to remember everything. Also not a big deal anyway.
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My Houndoom's berry is not essential. I was originally thinking about an Endure/Salac set, so I'm glad I didn't do that.
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Oh, I didn't know it was being entered into those facilities. Yeah uhh, change that Breloom's ability to Effect Spore. Poison Heal is nearly useless without a reliable way to trigger it. Or I'll submit something else, because that set is looking very questionable right now. EDIT: Scizor wasn't submitted, right? Name: Saitama Ability: Technician Nature: Adamant EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe Moveset: -Bug Bite -Roost -Bullet Punch -Swords Dance Okay, this should be a lot more usable than that Breloom. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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I'll change it to Effect Spore, but it's fine, I will happily use those Pokemon, because even the battle facilities aren't that hard, whatever.
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Update 47.5: The Battle Arcade (HGSS) We're back at the Frontier for the second facility, so what have we got to contend with this time?  Battle Arcade  It's time to test our luck and also get this facility out of the way quick, so we can burn our luck and not have it in future facilities! That's how it works, right?  You need to use your own Pokemon in the other four facilities, so here's all the Pokemon people in the thread submitted! We'll be seeing all these Pokemon eventually and there's some real interesting stuff. But for now, what are we using in this facility?   First up is Joltik!? the Mawile by GodofDiscord. Hits hard, punishes Gyarados and then, uh, has Guard Swap? And Attract? I mean, sure, Attract is a pretty nasty status if you can get it to work and Guard Swap is useful on certain Pokemon that set up Defense boosts. We'll see how it works out.   Next up is Dashing the Ampharos by AlphaKretin. Has some great coverage in Thunderbolt, Focus Blast and HP Grass, but whether Focus Blast hits when we need it to is all down to luck. And then Subbing up when we get the opportunity to. Overall, should work out.   Finally, Chopper the Kabutops by MagnusofStars. Set up sweepers work really well in battle facilities, so this Pokemon is an excellent choice, able to Swords Dance and then either Stone Edge or Aqua Jet to victory. Priority is also really useful and being protected by crits as well is handy, meaning we'll only get knocked out in one shot by powerful Grass moves.   Let's head in.    : First, I'll need to hold on to any items held by your Pokémon. Game no. 1! Come on! The main feature of this facility is the large game board. Before every single battle, we have the ability to choose one event that'll affect the battle, either good, bad or neutral. The cursor selects each event in turn at a pretty fast clip that you'll need to get used to and some events are absolutely game changing. We'll go over all the different effects in time, but for now, we want to event in the bottom left the most.  Uh, unfortunately I need to get used to the timing. It's been a few years since I last played the Arcade.   Blue events affect your Pokemon, while red events affect the opponent's Pokemon and then gray events affect neither side, or both sides, but are usually beneficial towards you. You can usually figure out what an event does by its image, but some of them can be a bit misleading.   Like with every facility, battles are a simple 3 vs 3 slugfest, though this facility has some caveats. As you noticed, we don't have items and you can only get them through events. Your opponent also don't have items, unless you accidentally give them some. So relying on a Pokemon's power is even more necessary in this facility.   But you may have also noticed that our opponents aren't exactly, uh, difficult. When I said we could take on the 1-3 streak with any Pokemon at all, I really meant it, our three Pokemon are not gonna face many challenges. In fact, it's gonna be a bit of a challenge to actually use the other two, as Chopper will just tear through everything no problem. Even while paralyzed.    So yeah, 1 battle down, 48 to go!   Okay, now we have some red events to make use of, but we still want the same event we were aiming for last round.  Ah, dammit. Well, at least it doesn't affect us.  But just because we landed on that event, doesn't mean that every opponent's Pokemon will be paralyzed. Status effects in this facility don't affect certain types or abilities, so Ground types or Pokemon with Limber will never be paralyzed.   Next round, still want the event at the bottom middle left. If that makes sense.  Wow I need to get better at timing, or this facility will be painful.   If you land on an item event, then you get those items for the rest of the streak. Your Pokemon each get a copy of that item and obviously some are a lot more helpful than others. Berries include all the status berries, as well as Sitrus.   Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's the opposite of what I wanted.   Three events affect the board speed: one increases it, one decreases it and one makes it random. Obviously you want to hit as many decrease speed ones as you can, the earlier the better. I just keep loving up. Once the board is slow enough, which happens after two decreases, then you can basically pick whatever event you want, which is amazingly helpful.   I'm finally getting used to the timing, but since this counteracts the speed up from before, we're back to square one. I also haven't been showing off the battles because literally nothing interesting happens in them. You can see the Pokemon we're facing against on the right and it's the Chopper sweep show every single time. But don't worry, if something does happen, it will be shown off, we do have two other Pokemon in our team after all.  Okay, even just one speed down makes it a lot easier to pick and choose what event you want. Doing it a second time just makes it even easier. No need to do it a third time, cause then it'll take ages to actually get to the event you want. The board will stop automatically after 30 seconds, so you do need to choose eventually.   Oh hey Joltik!? gets time to shine, good work.  Well there's a Stone Miss.   But by the time Chopper usually faints, it's torn through most of the opponent's team, so they only have one Pokemon left usually. Still, that's the first time all streak Stone Edge missed.     And that's 7 battles conquered. One streak down, six more to go.   So let's jump right back into it, with more exciting events! I try to show them all off at least once, but I still need to get used to the timing.  Another speed down missed.  All weather effects can be selected in the Arcade, but they only last for 5 turns. My opponent does have some Fire types to make use of it, but they still get oneshot by Aqua Jet regardless.  I promise I do get better at selecting the right event.  This is an interesting one.   "with the target!"(This was also me trying to remember what the hell Guard Swap did.) The HP event lowers all Pokemon on that team's HP by 20%. It's nothing too amazing, but it could make the difference in later battles.   Heh, if Thunder Fang paralyzed a Pokemon, then Joltik!? could be a discount paraflincher. Never manage to get it to work though, alas.   The level event is pretty interesting, it sets the level of every Pokemon in that team to 53. This actually has some really important strategic uses later on.     Otherwise, a pretty simple streak. Still hardly any Stone Edge or Focus Blast misses, which I'm really surprised about.   The third streak starts off pretty well. You can see our opponent's Pokemon are getting a bit tougher, but not by much.   Clean up crew   Slowly but surely I'm getting better and better at timing the board.  Since this is the last streak we're using these guys, I figured I'll try out Attract once.  Cool, let's never try it again.   Burn doesn't affect Fire types or Pokemon with Water Veil. Like paralysis, it's a very useful status afflicter on the opponent.  And before you know it, we've reached the seventh battle of the third streak, which means...  : In recognition of your outstanding skill, our Frontier Brain is demanding a match with you. So, your next match is against the Arcade Star; no ifs or buts! Are you ready? Let's meet a star.      : Like surprises from the game board, life goes through twists and turns. No need to worry. [musicalnote.jpg] Things will go as they will. But enough of that. I know one thing for certain. You have arrived here not merely because you were lucky. Let us not waste any time. I wish to test your skills myself!  Yep, even against the Frontier Brain we can use the game board. And since I got two speed downs, I can choose any event I want. Let's see...   : That's why I always keep a big smile and believe in my Pokémon when I battle.VS Frontier Brain     We're facing our first Frontier Brain with a set team. No matter what happens in a facility, three Frontier Brains will use a set team no matter what, meaning you could counteract them if you wanted to. I prefer to vaguely knowing their team, but not looking in depth until I get to actually writing the update. As luck would have it, all of her Pokemon are burned and use purely physical moves! So this should be pretty easy.   There are some oddities in Dahlia's team, like with all facility Pokemon the ability and gender are random, so Ludicolo can have a different ability each time, but they're also programmed with items... despite no opponent having items unless you purposefully (or accidentally) give them some. Ludicolo could become a massive problem if it gets a Swords Dance up, but at least it doesn't have that kick the Muscle Band would give it.   Chip damage is enough to take down Chopper, so Joltik!? is up against Medicham. I wasn't really afraid of it, but if it happened to use a strong Fighting move, that just meant Dashing could finish up.   If it had a Salac Berry and no Burn, then yeah, it could outspeed my whole team and destroy me with Reversal. But it doesn't have a Salac Berry and Endure means it'll be knocked out regardless.   Dusknoir is by far the strangest case. It should be holding an Iron Ball, it's the crux of the whole set.   It'd be fast in Trick Room, then use Fling to get rid of its Iron Ball and deal massive damage. Instead, it could get outsped by a few things in Trick Room and has a dead move in Fling. I don't understand why they were programmed with items and then had sets that revolved around said items if you can't use items in the facility most of the time.     Maybe the next fight will be more difficult? Battle Arcade : Your love of Pokémon shone through and, in turn, your Pokémon believed in you. That is why you handled everything thrown your way splendidly. A most wonderful victory it was!  That's a stack of cash right there.     Three prints down, seven to go.  Are we done with this place? Hell no! We're not even halfway! So let's meet our next three challengers.   You saw correctly, TrueSelf the Ditto by rannum is first up and if you think that's crazy, then you might be right. Transform is very interesting and will make it feel like we're back in the Battle Factory, allowing our biggest problems become our greatest assets. Before it transforms, we have the most HP and Speed necessary to ensure it can actually survive, so we'll see how it goes.   For more standard fare, we have Lati???s the Latios by MagnusofStars. Huh, I just realized they submitted 2 Pokemon for the Arcade. Oh well. It hits really hard and can heal itself back up or be immune to status. Dependable and deadly, just how I like it.   Finally, we have Skullkraken the Gyarados by Haifisch. Yeah, the nickname is 11 characters, but it's not a big deal as we'll see later. Anyway, an excellent set up sweeper that I've used before in other battle facilities. Dependable, destructive and ready to destroy everything in its path. Perfect. I love it.   Okay, immediately we have some new events as well as a pretty nasty team facing us. Let the challenge begin!  ...let the REAL challenge begin! Seriously, you can get a number of items for your team with this event and one of them is the Iron Ball. And unless we hit this event again, we'll be using them for the rest of the streak, so let's try and replace it asap.   "Attack!"See? Longer names are not a problem! Kinda! Gyarados is also amazing for a lead as it screws over physical attackers. Which there are a lot of lurking around. Also means it'll probably live a strong Rock move (which are mostly physical) and maybe a physical Electric move (of which there are, uh, two right now? I think?)     And now everything dies. Don't worry, it won't be the Skullkraken show, things are gonna get pretty tough. Eventually.   This weird spider web event is actually Trick Room. Honestly wouldn't have been surprised if it had literally been the move Spider Web. Shame Sticky Web didn't exist yet, that could've been an interesting event. Anyway, like the weather events, Trick Room only lasts 5 turns.   So just to refresh, Transform turns you into the opposing Pokemon and copies every stat, the ability, typing, nature, etc, except for HP. Every move is also at 5PP.  The slight problem, however, of not being able to bring a Choice Scarf is it means we will always Speed tie unless they have a Speed boosting move for us to take advantage of. So it's a coinflip who will go first. You say that's bad, I say it's perfect for the Arcade!   We still have our clean up crew and Lati???s is a very dependable one.   Yes, Fog is also an event and the only time in appears in HGSS, due to the lack of the Defog HM. Thank god, Fog suuuuuuuuuuucks. You can use Defog to get rid of it, but why the gently caress do you have that move?  Thankfully if the weather changes at any point, it doesn't revert back to the event one, so the AI had some sense. As a refresher, Fog reduces accuracy of all moves by 60%, making all 100% accurate moves Hypnosis level, doubles the power of Weather Ball, but doesn't change its type, halves the power of Solarbeam and reduces the effect of Moonlight, Synthesis and Morning Sun by 25%. So yeah, it sucks.  The BP event, uh, gives you BP. Yeahhhhhh   Well that was fun, next streak!  Now this is when Sleep and Freeze events start appearing.  I miss one, cause the board has sped up by one stage, making it kinda tricky to pick the right event if you're not used to the timing. I was getting all the events I wanted previously, so I should adapt quickly. Hopefully.   Technically TrueSelf gets a kill here?  Ooh, there's the swap event just below the cursor. That makes you trade teams with the opponent. I wouldn't recommend it since you don't know what you're getting set wise, but if you're really confident then you can give it a shot. I wish I'd shown this off, but whenever it appeared the opponent's team was either poo poo, or I wanted a different event instead.   Well this seems pretty powerful, right?  Not exactly, Sleep and Freeze events only affect Pokemon in a team. It's still really powerful, but not as dependable as the Burn and Paralysis events (and Poison, I guess). Pokemon with the Insomnia and Vital Spirit abilities are unaffected by Sleep.   This is definitely a TrueSelf kill. Yay!  Ah, well I had to show this off eventually. Instead of the cursor going from left to right, top to bottom, it just goes for any event, so unless you have real good reactions, you won't be picking a good one.  Like so.   Oh phew, it was only TrueSelf, I think we'll be alright.  Oh hey, we're actually getting good cash for our streaks now. Time for number six!     The Skip event is rare, but oh my god is it useful. Best choice every time, just bam, next battle.   This is going to be very helpful.     Gallade is a loving problem. It was my fault for sending out TrueSelf, but it was surprising me a lot with its high Speed and it would've definitely lived a Drain Punch had it pulled a Transform off. And the only way I survived that Thunderpunch was because of Intimidate, so this is why I love Gyarados in facilities.  Still, if Wailord defrosts, I lose. It's a 20% chance, so let's flip those coins!   Hot drat I am lucky tonight. It's not gonna last, is it?  Neat, 10% boost to all physical attacks. Admittedly useless on Lati???s, but better than an Iron Ball, or a Toxic Orb.   Ooh baby that's the good stuff.  And with that, we're on the final streak. Man, this has been pretty easy so far, why do people say it's so hard???  While the board speed has increased again, we're off to a good start here.  Oh poo poo, this Froslass is fast.  Oh poo poo, this Froslass is strong!  ...you wouldn't  Okay good. Unfortunately, there are some tanky motherfuckers out there with OHKO moves. Usually, those moves are pretty poo poo since it'll fail if used on an opponent with a higher level. But when everything's level 50? It has a 30% chance to hit every time. How lucky do you feel?   Ah geez this sped up board is kinda screwing me.  Oh this might be bad.  And I lost another Speed tie.   And this Latios doesn't have Focus Blast. Coooooooool. So it took me like an hour to get to this point, that's the big danger with battle facilities, if you lose once, you're starting all over again. From battle 1. I'm gonna say gently caress that and reload my save state.   Hmm, okay. Lucario is also not something this team doesn't likes. In the higher streaks, nearly everything has some kind of Electric move or Rock move, or even an Ice move just for general coverage, so the Gyarados strat is hurting a bit.  Dagnabbit    Alright, my luck is definitely running low. All of these have been the first battle of the seventh streak.        OH COME ON  What's that, there's TWO of these sets in the Frontier pool? No loving way??? Thankfully these Pokemon are neutered somewhat due to no items, otherwise this Walrein would have a Lax Incense! And the Dewgong would have a Salac Berry!!! OHKO moves are a real problem in the Battle Frontier, cause if you don't take out the problem Pokemon, you're rolling a 30% chance every turn.   Hate HATE HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE  This is just really upsetting. Still, there is a good way around these Pokemon. If you spot them in the team preview, you can use a level event to make your whole team immune to them. Failing that, uh... a Sturdy Pokemon? Well that's about it, but there are other outs in other facilities. Aside from the Tower and the Factory. Good luck!  Alright screw this, I'm skipping to the end.   gently caress YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU   Dahlia time!   : No need to worry. [musicalnote.jpg] Things will go as they will. But, enough of that. You are proving yourself incredible. Are you incredible because you are so lucky you shrug off back luck entirely?No : Or, are you so incredibly talented to not be swayed by luck, good or bad? I wish to see for myself what brought you to me today! The last board. Are my reflexes good enough to land on the right event? What will I go for?   The perfect one, hell yeah!   I roll the dice and got OHKOed, such is life. VS Frontier Brain     Well someone's starting off strong! Okay I can't really say that since I'm using a legendary myself. But still!   Being able to go first will always be great. But again, items are still programmed in and affect the sets they use. I'm glad this Zapdos no longer has a Brightpowder, but I feel kinda cheated, ya know? ...I say having paralyzed her whole team, but that's the crazy thing about the Battle Arcade. If you can time it right, you can completely cripple the opposing team and ride to victory. Some bullshit aside, this can be a very easy facility to beat. Though yeah, I say can.   Man, I'm feeling a bit hard pressed here, maybe I'll get some health back. It could've had a nice combo in Superpower + White Herb, but uh, nope!  I don't know the sets ahead of time, so I didn't know it had Night Slash. I also don't know why it didn't use it.   I also didn't know it had Thunderpunch. So, uh, lucky me? Since that was the turn I switched, I doubt it was going for it anyway, but still.   Now comes the real bullshit. Abilities are random, so it could have Hustle, which is good for us. Or it'll have Serene Grace, which isn't.   I'm sorry rannum, I tried to use it. Still, I'm really pleased I not only made it to the final fight with a Ditto, but it also did really well. Sometimes TrueSelf was the only Pokemon I had left and it pulled through! Good choice, I loved using it. The other selections were great, but you aren't surprised to hear that are you?  I'm glad I wasn't flinched to death at literally the last hurdle. You would've tasted the salt from here.   For these last matches luck was thankfully on my side.  : Bad luck, you cast aside, and good luck, you netted. That you did so is evidence of your abilities. By defeating me, Dahlia, you have proven your mastery brilliantly! I am sincerely happy for having this battle against you!  What a fuckin rollarcoaster.     I'm never coming back  Ah god we're still not halfway there.  But this next facility is gonna be a real doozy. HONEST Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCL_AT18xbs There's no greater luck than being able to just savestate out of bad luck loses. You made your own luck, Crosspeice.
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Hoo boy, that battle arcade. That was a trip and a half. (I still miss the Battle Frontier, it didn't make me want to set fire to my game). Also, whats up with Gyarados' name?
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The best way to make Skullkraken fit is removing the final "e" and making it Skullkrakn!Blaze Dragon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCL_AT18xbs Thank you for posting this.
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