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Yeah it seemed to emphasize that, if anything, Saitama was always ridiculously powerful and capable... and the moment he started doing even the most basic exercise he became a punchman god
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Shugojin posted:Pretty sure that the people excited for this to end are the ONE readers who really want to see the next part adapted. People / monsters throwing energy blasts that change the weather is also good and cool.
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Feb 26, 2017 15:58
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Mordaedil posted:Yeah, the guy who took out Crabante and a bunch of other monsters before he even started working out was a weakling. what bunch of other monsters are you talking about?
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Feb 28, 2017 00:22
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He beat Crabrante because it was a dumb and weak monster. And even then he only barely won. It's not like Saitama was going around beating up Dragon level threats before training. It was just the training. Stop being dumb like Asura Rhino and that evil doctor guy.
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Feb 28, 2017 00:58
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He only beat a weak giant lobster man with claws, while barehanded and untrained. It barely even counts.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:02
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Begemot posted:He beat Crabrante because it was a dumb and weak monster. And even then he only barely won. It's not like Saitama was going around beating up Dragon level threats before training. Also Octopus Claw Man (Tiger level, fyi), and Light Cord Punch Man, and presumably a bunch of others because he wasn't all that worked up about either.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:08
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Schwarzwald posted:He only beat a weak giant lobster man with claws, while barehanded and untrained. It barely even counts.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:16
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Schwarzwald posted:He only beat a weak giant lobster man with claws, while barehanded and untrained. It barely even counts. Saitama didn't beat the crab man by punching him once, he beat him in desperation by tying his tie around his eye stalk and yanking with his whole body weight. This isn't really comparable to reducing Dragon-level monsters to ground meat with a single non-serious punch.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:20
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Crablante was at least disaster level Tiger, because he was tearing people apart with his claws. That means pretraining Saitama could perform at a Class A or B level.
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Feb 28, 2017 01:33
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Saitama was born the supreme being and that's why he was able to achieve so much power with such disproportionate effort. e: But seriously though my favorite idea for Saitama's power is that it's a bug in the universe resulting from an unfathomable number of improbable scenarios. In a patched version of his universe, the Strange Log reads "inconsequential NPCs can no longer become invincible with an ordinary exercise routine" e2: https://twitter.com/TheStrangeLog/status/832635736847446016 this one is pretty OPM tbh Shugojin fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Feb 28, 2017 01:55
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Saitama was wrong about his exercise regimen causing the development of his power. It's easy to make that mistake because he was doing exercise, which increases strength, immediately before attaining infinite power. The truth is that it was spontaneous, chaotic, and irreproducible; or at the very least, he did not notice its actual cause.
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Feb 28, 2017 02:06
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It's canon his strength developed over those three years.Bisse posted:Well he did do it by using Brain (tie around the eyeball and pull is pretty smart) instead of Fist.
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Feb 28, 2017 03:19
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The secret to unlocking Ultimate Power actually happens to be "wrapping a neck tie around a crab monster's eyes and body slamming it." Saitama just never made the connection.
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Feb 28, 2017 03:46
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Begemot posted:Saitama didn't beat the crab man by punching him once, he beat him in desperation by tying his tie around his eye stalk and yanking with his whole body weight. I'm not saying that he didn't become stronger after working out, but he was never a "weakling." He defeated a giant crab monster while barehanded and untrained. That doesn't stop being true because he didn't use a straight jab.
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Feb 28, 2017 05:13
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I've always gone with the idea that Saitama underwent whatever phenomena causes people to turn into monsters only it went slightly weird due to his inclination towards heroism.
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Feb 28, 2017 05:18
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Shugojin posted:The monster cells are probably not normal monster cells but rather from some special critter in this group.
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Feb 28, 2017 05:41
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7c Nickel posted:I've always gone with the idea that Saitama underwent whatever phenomena causes people to turn into monsters only it went slightly weird due to his inclination towards heroism. Or it's the same thing in the first place and good people become heroes while evil people become monsters.
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Feb 28, 2017 05:56
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm not saying that he didn't become stronger after working out, but he was never a "weakling." Saitama gained strength after dedicating himself to being a hero, before that he was unfocused and drifting through life without a real purpose just getting whatever salaryman job he could the exercise wasn't the important part it was dedicating himself to becoming " a hero who wins with one punch" that made him strong
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Feb 28, 2017 06:19
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Terror Sweat posted:what bunch of other monsters are you talking about? There's a bunch of side-stories in the manga where he beats up monsters while training and he still has his hair. And uh, yeah, he's still loving strong at this point.
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I also thought of it as thing thin line between obsession and determination, at least in the case of heroes and humans-turned-monsters (doesn't apply to natural monsters or results of science / monster cells). I always thought of it as heroes getting where they are through hard work and training, while monsters are overtaken by their obsessions to one thing. Like the guy who liked crabs so much he became a crab, or the guy who shadow boxed himself into being a (God-level) monster. These human-turned-monsters went all in on one thing so hard they lost themselves to it, and their obsession consumed them and literally shaped them. Disregarding the psychic sisters, the heroes don't really possess supernatural powers. Like, they don't have special powers, they have far better physical attributes than the average person. Either they use technology to modify themselves (Genos, Engine Knight, the B-class cyborg during the Sea King arc) or tools (Child Emperor, Metal Knight, the guy who shot flames from his arms, Inazuma with his lightning shoes). I guess Pig God is an exception since he loving eats monsters. Otherwise, it's just a matter of being physically superior. Even Pri-Pri Prisoner's transformation is just him bulking up even more. So they still look human, and they don't have any horns or claws or stuff like that. In essence, barring a few exceptions, heroes are just humans with superhuman stats but no supernatural abilities. Monsters, on the other hand, come with a slew of tricks up their sleeve. They can regenerate, they can shoot energy bolts, they can use electric powers naturally, etc. etc. They don't even look like normal humans; they might remain humanoid but they all gain features that mark them as clearly not human (except the guy whose transformation was becoming Fat Tenshinhan without the extra arms, that guy's a loser). So it's like, there's a clear line between heroes and monsters for the most part, I'd think.
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Terror Sweat posted:what bunch of other monsters are you talking about? Hate-Senpai posted:My favorite villain is probably this dude.
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Feb 28, 2017 06:25
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i wish we were in the OPM universe so you pedants would become pedant monsters due to constantly being pedantic all day about Saitama's powerlevel, and then King would come and end you.
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Feb 28, 2017 06:31
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I wouldn't want to live in the OPM universe because cities get wiped out all the time, like that time Saitama killed that giant dude and its corpse fell over and destroyed a city.
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Feb 28, 2017 06:43
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Gonna be controversial but I don't think the OPM world is very safe for civilians.
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Feb 28, 2017 06:43
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Jerkface posted:i wish we were in the OPM universe so you pedants would become pedant monsters due to constantly being pedantic all day about Saitama's powerlevel, and then King would come and end you.
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Feb 28, 2017 06:55
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Apparently you forgot that Internet trolling is a thing in OPM universe too, therefore
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Mordaedil posted:Apparently you forgot that Internet trolling is a thing in OPM universe too, therefore Probably a source of a lot of monsters. Add to this the escalating stress everyone feels as monster attacks escalate...
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Feb 28, 2017 08:12
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You are all like Genos, furiously writing down theories in his autism book as to why Saitama is so insanely powerful because you just can't accept that he simply responded very well to exercise
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Zzulu posted:You are all like Genos, furiously writing down theories in his autism book as to why Saitama is so insanely powerful because you just can't accept that he simply responded very well to exercise This is the anime forum. Autism is basically a requirement.
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Feb 28, 2017 08:29
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He's not actually strong, it's all a prank.
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Feb 28, 2017 10:07
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Shugojin posted:The monster cells are probably not normal monster cells but rather from some special critter in this group. The way they were twitching about definitely suggests that. They're probably monster gonads or something.
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Feb 28, 2017 10:09
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I'd imagine they came from someone who was a guy who wanted to turn everyone into monsters so much he became a monster that produces monster-turning cells.
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Elentor posted:I'd imagine they came from someone who was a guy who wanted to turn everyone into monsters so much he became a monster that produces monster-turning cells. Let's go with this one
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Mordaedil posted:There's a bunch of side-stories in the manga where he beats up monsters while training and he still has his hair. And uh, yeah, he's still loving strong at this point. yes but that was clearly after he started working out, not before. the only monster he killed before getting stronger was the crab and it was luck that his tie had slipped around the guys eye while he was being knocked around
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What is with all this goalpost moving? I'm saying Saitama can't have been so weak as to suddenly implode from training, because we saw Crablante clearly kill people who are normal, yet here Saitama not only survives being knocked into a loving building of concrete that collapses, he proceeds to save the child from being outright killed, gets his tie around Crablante, which even if you'd argue is a stroke of luck, proceeds to yank his innards out. A normal loving person couldn't do that by pure luck, you goal-post moving fuckheads.
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Feb 28, 2017 13:08
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Calm down genos
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Feb 28, 2017 13:21
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Zzulu posted:Calm down genos Fite me (Seriously, I'm calm, please point out where we disagree on this point, I'm actually curious)
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Feb 28, 2017 13:34
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I don't think the series has anything to gain from explaining the exact source of Saitama's power. 
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Attestant posted:I don't think the series has anything to gain from explaining the exact source of Saitama's power. Yeah, this. Why are y'all so obsessed with it?
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Mordaedil posted:What is with all this goalpost moving? I'm saying Saitama can't have been so weak as to suddenly implode from training, because we saw Crablante clearly kill people who are normal, yet here Saitama not only survives being knocked into a loving building of concrete that collapses, he proceeds to save the child from being outright killed, gets his tie around Crablante, which even if you'd argue is a stroke of luck, proceeds to yank his innards out. you dont see him kill anybody, and he gets knocked away like 5 feet, not into a building of concrete that collapses. the only thing exceptional at that time is his fightin spirit get these anime shitters off my manga discussion
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