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HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

The Titanic posted:

Just be glad Chris Roberts invented sand worms.

Next thing you know people will be all "well can I ride the sand worm?" Of course you can ride the sand worm. What kind of cheapo loving game do you think this is??? :colbert:

Not sure if you followed some of the Reddit threads after the sand worm reveal. Backers were talking about how cool it would be to explore the tunnels left behind by the sand worm's movements...

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Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Goobs posted:

So we've confirmed that they're advertising for job positions that they have no intent on filling right? Between the lovely job auto-reply I posted earlier and the fact that ben is turning down "highly qualified" people due to "dumb loving reason".

I guess they're trying to keep appearances up that everything is fine, which is why they've posted 1232023213 jobs.

I just like the way that rather than go for "talent" or "ability" like any company normally does, they would rather the hires be SciFi nerds rather than talented.

Fuzzy Modem was a SciFi nerd wasn't he? :)

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

Exinos posted:

About the whole employees flipping jpegs on the grey market thing...

Wasn't there an employee years back, one of the times LTI was going away, that would let someone send them a ship and some cash, LTI token it, and send it back? Like, this was all happening on the official forums.

Seems like that would be a decent source to help support the theory and if they could get jpegs cheap enough on internal discount to make it worth the extra income.

This was the time frame between Original Backers and Veteran Backers. Until October 2013, Original Backers could buy game packages and ships which automatically include LTI. People just buying into the project would get three to six month insurance. (might have been longer) So what started happening--new players woudl send money to an Original Backer. The OB would buy the package/ship and gift it back to the new player. At first it was done as a courtesy, then it got organized and "commissions" started getting added. i.e. Send me $125 and I'll back you a $100 ship with LTI. The CIG forums were used to facilitate a bunch of the trades until Juneish 2013? Around that time Ben made a gold post and push the OB purchasing experience to Reddit, helping to create /r/starcitizen_trades and the entire grey market.

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

hot balls man no homo posted:

I doubt that they update the ledger with leavers. It says people that pledged so legally, it's still true. Why show anything that's bad to the public if they are in the clear

As to the number of leavers, I don't think that it is that big right now. Even if you factor in the backers who quietly get refunds, don't post about it ever, and quietly slink away, I don't think that leavers factor in that much. The real danger is backers becoming jaded and keeping their wallets closed during sales. That's the number that is dangerous to CIG. It's easier to not buy than it is to admit that you're an idiot for pledging in the first place and then seeking a refund. The latter requires some painful introspection and some actual leg work to get your money back. The former is just mental gymnastics, telling yourself that you don't like the newest ship, that you don't need another fighter, that you've spent plenty and the project is humming along nicely.

Thankfully, there are enough fanatics who have realized when they stop buying ships at every sale, the Star Citizen dream dies. Hopefully those fanatics keep getting disability and will keep laughs alive.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

skaboomizzy posted:

He thought the worm was a joke.


penis scare

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Samizdata posted:

Sure, you can RIDE the sand worm, but can you control it? Nope. 'S all on rails. And that is if you can even get to the top of it TO ride it without spazzing off into the distance.

Now, when they give you an option to ROMANCE the sand worm, then we are talking.

What I would like to know is, can a Sand Worm t-pose? (you would think not but the things Star Citizen has shown me I want to believe.)

Goobs
Jan 30, 2016

Doxcat is watching you PU.

Sabreseven posted:

I just like the way that rather than go for "talent" or "ability" like any company normally does, they would rather the hires be SciFi nerds rather than talented.

Fuzzy Modem was a SciFi nerd wasn't he? :)

imagine an office full of cymelions and disturbedjim's. jesus christ.

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

MinorInconvenience posted:

I swear to the Almighty I'm going to write a HBR Case Study on this stupid saga, success or failure. It's amazing and incredible and disheartening. In this day and age, for people to fall for this. I am stunned and appalled. I guess even "smart" people can fall for multi-level marketing schemes.

Hey new truth seeker, if you want to truly get up to speed on Chris Roberts, Star Citizen and Squadron 42, and what they mean to this thread ...... get a drink, kiss you loved ones goodbye, give your catte it's last petting and sit back and read this, this is the truth, this ....


In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Goobs posted:

imagine an office full of cymelions and disturbedjim's. jesus christ.

And when the baliffs went in to clear the office out it would probably look like the aftermath of Jonestown. Kool-aid everywhere. :)

Chin
Dec 12, 2005

GET LOST 2013
-RALPH

MilesK posted:

There was a lot of bullshiting, I tried my best to filter it out. I'm no SomethingJones. Though I miss him, actually watching that was hard.
I skim most ATVs and still couldn't stomach more than 10 seconds of Chambers mumbling about procedural tech in that interview. I appreciate your sacrifice.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
An important historical note is that The Sickening and Heartbreaking Truths of the Fourth Stimpire originated on the RSI forums as a sincere piece of fan fiction for the Star Citizen universe.

Stimpire WAS NOT A JOKE.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5wkvpa/old_docking_ports_will_be_scrapped_and_reworked/

Another promised feature scrapped:


Old Docking Ports will be scrapped and reworked
Because not all of us are constantly on Spectrum (maybe we need a Metathread where we can post relevant things?), ill just post it here. I found some remarks from CIG Matt Sherman noteworthy about the docking collars.
http://imgur.com/a/ANTdc
What do you think about the changes? And in which direction would you imagine or wish the boarding mechanics develop?


The natives don't sound impressed

Quavers fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Feb 28, 2017

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Quavers posted:



The natives don't sound impressed

Except this guy...

quote:

[–]2IRRCWing Commander 1 point an hour ago
They talked about this like a year ago. It comes up from time to time. It's a matter of R&D and after about a year they clearly haven't been able to crack it. Lets face it the insane amount of ground CIG has broken so far and will break (that we know of) already dwarfs any game ever made. It's reasonable to expect them to fail on some things. This may be a dead end but it now drives them in another direction. Perhaps it will be better. This has happened a couple of times already in a very big way. FPS head stabilization, object container streaming, procedural ship damage and seamless planets all came from chasing ideas down several dead ends for years.
It's just a matter of time until some better solution is found. The question is how long, how much it will cost and how much effort has to be sunk into it. CIG is known for tackling the hardest ideas by people telling them it can't be done. Perhaps the best motivator is we all band together and keep telling them it's impossible.... then stand back and see what happens. :)
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Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

they're always "building teams" yet have had 200-300 people working on the game for the last few years and don't even have one complete star system

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Ash1138 posted:

they're always "building teams" yet have had 200-300 people working on the game for the last few years and don't even have one complete star system

They're building a gameplay team for a "game" that's been "playable" for years.

Ben is so out of the loop it's embarrassing.

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Ben is embarrassing.





Chris Roberts is a scummy human.



Sandi Gardiner acts so bad even Ed Wood would have pasted her by.



Citizen are fools being taken by the same practice that cults use.



Moma is just a concatenation camp guard.



Derek wrote a blog back in July some year.



Kosumo is mildly drunk and ordering pizza ...... pineapple .... mmmmm ...

Kosumo fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Feb 28, 2017

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

They're building a gameplay team for a "game" that's been "playable" for years.

Ben is so out of the loop it's embarrassing.
well yeah the tech is "done" now they just need "content" bing bong bing so simple

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

Colostomy Bag posted:

Except this guy...

quote:

CIG is known for tackling the hardest ideas by people telling them it can't be done.

They are indeed known for tackling them, and not once being successful in any of those tackles.

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

the only loop that ben is interested in is a lap band

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Colostomy Bag posted:

:siren: New Comm link is in. This week might be a good one for Space Comedy...especially Friday. :siren:



Ben Lesnick, Christ Roberts Historian

At least we've confirmed Ben is still employed there, and his new role!

Crobberts Historian

What type of ego it must take to have a literal turbo nerd working in your office who does nothing all day but chronicle your very existence

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I'm fine with them reworking docking ports as long as they get the sounding arrays finalised.

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

Sappo569 posted:

At least we've confirmed Ben is still employed there, and his new role!

Crobberts Historian

What type of ego it must take to have a literal turbo nerd working in your office who does nothing all day but chronicle your very existence
ben lesnick is an rear end-sucking sycophant

somehow i doubt that memory lane will include crobbers getting freelancer taken away from him

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

I'm fine with them reworking docking ports as long as they get the sounding arrays finalised.

Have they tightened up the graphics on level 3 though?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002


On all levels except physical, I am a marine mammal.

[pledges]

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

ComfyPants posted:

On all levels except physical, I am a marine mammal.

[pledges]

THATS WHY THEY ARE DOING SO WELL ....

IT ALL MAKES SENESE NOW .....

SANDI'S MARINE BIOLOGY DEGREE!

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Man, they have to release something, anything soon (even their stupid schedule) or else MoMA won't be coming back to rub it on our faces.

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

Let me tell you what I do know. Every day I come by and click this thread. And we have a few cat pics and a few laughs and it's great. But you know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds from when I boot up my computer and click the SA forums. Because I think maybe I'll get up there and I'll click on the thread and it won't be there. No goodbye, no see you later, no nothin'. Just left. I don't know much, but I know that.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Kosumo posted:

What I would like to know is, can a Sand Worm t-pose? (you would think not but the things Star Citizen has shown me I want to believe.)

OMG! T-posed sand worms? :flashfap: :shlick:

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

ZenMaster posted:

Let me tell you what I do know. Every day I come by and click this thread. And we have a few cat pics and a few laughs and it's great. But you know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds from when I boot up my computer and click the SA forums. Because I think maybe I'll get up there and I'll click on the thread and it won't be there. No goodbye, no see you later, no nothin'. Just left. I don't know much, but I know that.

We got at least 2 years more of this fiasco. It may sputter and die sometime in 2018. Then we have a year after that to laugh at the aftermath as backers handle the five stages of death. Sadly, everything except depression will provide entertainment.

But we have a ton more bonus options:

1) Roberts releases SQ42 prelude where we can see mopping mocapped in all its glory and laugh at the asinine dialogue that was leaked last year.
2) Parpman.
3) Some disenfranchised employee absconds with all the source code and assets, and dumps it online like some F16 Falcon where the community takes it over and makes it into a MVP.
4) Uncle Derek releases his book, Shitizens immediately flood Amazon book review system denouncing it into hate book status. Legal gets dragged in.
5) They poo poo out 3.0, released as the MVP. They overcame the basic laws of physics and we have 1,000 player instances.

It is the oddest thing. No matter what side of the fence you are on, everyone wins. From a staunch whale to a goon...Roberts is a genius.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007
You know, all this chatter about the amazing promise of the CIG demos kept nagging me. Then, tonight at work, it hit me. What space game had amazing demos and turned out to be complete pants? All because the developer had two projects running at the same time, and, instead of concentrating and finishing one, decided they had to do two? And ended up with one of the projects, the "big one" becoming an industry wide joke?

That's right.

I'm talking Gearbox. I'm talking Aliens: Colonial Marines, and their side project Borderlands. Mind you, Gearbox didn't flame out or anything, but, still...

(And I am not EVEN counting their "nostalgia/revival" title, one little Duke Nukem Forever...)

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
they kinda killed themselves with battleborn tho and they've recently scrapped 3+ years of work on the borderlands mmo

mrchinchin25
Apr 14, 2012

Dat BDSSE

Sabreseven posted:

"Citizens of the stars", how many of these loving retarded 'TV shows' do they do? CIG would be better suited to run one of those really lovely self propelling home shopping network channels, I'd expect they'd keep the same customers at least if they switched. (Home Shilling Network?)

If only they made game components as efficiently as they made loving shite daytime TV.

(Oh it was my SA Birthday yesterday :D I am no longer a Goon hatchling and am ready for my Goonachne now that I am a Goonteen) :)

They should definitely do a daytime tv style auction jpeg show. They'd make a fortune

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

I'm voting thread title is getting old.

I'm gonna throw Star Citizen:Our Downloader will Vanduul your Internet as an option .... any others?

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

TheAgent posted:

they kinda killed themselves with battleborn tho and they've recently scrapped 3+ years of work on the borderlands mmo

Scrapped as in project cancelled, or scrapped as in refactoring?

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

mrchinchin25 posted:

They should definitely do a daytime tv style auction jpeg show. They'd make a fortune

With the quality of their vision switching and Sandi Gardnier presenting, they would run a serious risk of breaching the broadcast standards of amount of resting bitch face pre hour during daytime.

Kids sometimes watch that stuff you know ..... won't somebody (other than fuzzy) think of the children?

Exinos
Mar 1, 2009

OSHA approved squiq

Kosumo posted:

I'm voting thread title is getting old.

I'm gonna throw Star Citizen:Our Downloader will Vanduul your Internet as an option .... any others?

Star Citizen: Stimpire WAS NOT A JOKE!

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Star Shitizen

Let's go minimalist

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/dappadanman/status/836424912218783745

https://twitter.com/dappadanman/status/836424706458857472

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Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

Samizdata posted:

You know, all this chatter about the amazing promise of the CIG demos kept nagging me. Then, tonight at work, it hit me. What space game had amazing demos and turned out to be complete pants? All because the developer had two projects running at the same time, and, instead of concentrating and finishing one, decided they had to do two? And ended up with one of the projects, the "big one" becoming an industry wide joke?

That's right.

I'm talking Gearbox. I'm talking Aliens: Colonial Marines, and their side project Borderlands. Mind you, Gearbox didn't flame out or anything, but, still...

(And I am not EVEN counting their "nostalgia/revival" title, one little Duke Nukem Forever...)

Gearbox asked SEGA to fund Aliens: Colonic Marines, but instead spent the money on Borderlands.

Crobberz asked kickstarter to fund Star Citizen, but instead spent the money on mocap.




Yup, sounds about right.

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