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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Man, Famous B took some crazy bumps even before he became a cowardly heel manager.

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
It's weird to see Marty back when he was "random creepy guy" instead of "rich sociopath who may or may not have a 'thing' with his sister"

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop

Benne posted:

Wrestling needs more chubby kitty men. I hope Lince Dorado gains 50 pounds and gets a push in WWE.

How quickly you forget Battle Kat!

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StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Benne posted:

It's weird to see Marty back when he was "random creepy guy" instead of "rich sociopath who may or may not have a 'thing' with his sister"

Yeah, for someone who started as kind of a harmless comedy character he's come a long way.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

StarkRavingMad posted:

I miss Bengala. He was the best kind-of-chubby kitty man

I miss him, but i'm not sure he's worth the rapid-fire catpuns.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Sign Beer City Bruiser and put him under the Night Claw mask. There, now we've solved our "lack of fat kitties" problem.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

StarkRavingMad posted:

I miss Bengala. He was the best kind-of-chubby kitty man

I liked referring to him as Super Shisa's Non-Union Mexican Equivalent.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Van Wagenen on the MMM show podcast again:

Netflix: As that podcast reported previously from a "credible source" (likely him behind the scenes), there's no known hard date for when the Netflix episodes go up. The deal is done, and they expect that they'll deliver all the episodes to Netflix by the 15th, but there's a QC process that Netflix goes through and he doesn't know how long it will take. The 15th date was something that someone not at LU (i.e. MLM Radio) pulled out of thin air and then all the news reporting sites ran with it. The reason you haven't seen any official announcement from El Rey or LU is that they haven't been given a date from Netflix yet. He not privy to exactly where it it will be available, but he believes there are "multiple regions." The Spanish language versions of the Season 1 episodes will also be available on Netflix with the Hugo/Vampiro commentary. There isn't a deal yet for Season 3, but EVW thinks that's more from LU's side -- these things are typically delivered seasonally and he expects that they'll cut a deal for Season 3. He said that he also expects that it is going to do better audience-wise then Netflix thinks which could mean they could cut an even better deal for Season 3.

On the people leaving AAA: AAA, through Lucha Libre LLC, licensed LU through MGM/El Rey the right to use characters from AAA. However, for the TV show, they have their own separate contracts with the guys from AAA. EVW looks at "are there guys that I have under contract." Even though he knows that there's overlap in the ownership between AAA and LU, for the TV show, as the showrunner, his job is to "protect this little entity that is his show on the El Rey network." While all the things that are going on in the wrestling business do affect him, as far as he is concerned, as long as they haven't somehow violated their LU contract, they're on the active roster that the creative staff are writing for and at the next taping they're showing up.

When asked directly, "Do you have a good feeling that Fenix/Pentagon/Sexy Star/Jack Evans will be back when you start shooting Season 4?" He said he has "zero reason right now to believe those people won't be there" and they still have an active contract to perform on US television. "We're planning that they will be there."

He said there's things going on to try and put some key people in place to "connect the two arms of this thing" and make sure in the future that LU talent are treated properly in Mexico and people coming up from Mexico are treated properly here. They're trying to move to a situation where they can do better at supporting their people year-round. He said, coming from a TV show background, they didn't really think about keeping people busy between seasons, since that's not how it works in TV. But it doesn't do anyone any good if their people are starving in the off-season. Right now there's not any infrastructure in place to do much for people when they are on the off-season and they need to change that and do something with licensing guys to use their gimmicks in the off-season and support them better.

Return date: He said if the 5/31/17 date is on the El Rey banner, it's probably gospel. He had heard that date thrown around before. It would line up with what he was thinking before about El Rey wanting to run the premiere of new shows on the same date as Ultima Lucha 3.

StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 10, 2017

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
RIP Chavo Classic :smith:

AKA Driver
Apr 5, 2004
To the bubblecraft! Set control to hypochondria!

Benne posted:

RIP Chavo Classic :smith:

I'm a huge fan of this whole album, but this is a neat video with Chavo (and Joey Ryan).

https://youtu.be/Q9YvDfiAXT8

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
https://twitter.com/LIGERFEVER/status/830944930101153793

https://twitter.com/LIGERFEVER/status/830945419760979970

https://twitter.com/LIGERFEVER/status/830945137190633476

It's real interesting if you read this guy's timeline (he's translating a Pentagon interview) -- Pentagon talking about how miserable AAA is but also wanting to work with LU still. I hope everything EVW was saying is true and LU can still use all the AAA people who left it.

StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Feb 13, 2017

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Totally buying one of those

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Yessssssssssssssss. :stare:

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/LuchaElRey/status/831225234535559171

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
In case you wanted a gif of Argenis and Aerostar rubbing their nipples:



I don't think I'll get to watch the repeat tonight, but according to twitter it's Ultima Lucha 1, so enjoy watching Vamp get set on fire!

StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 16, 2017

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I can't wait to see Hernandez get stiffed by goony fans again :allears:

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Oh hey, Disciples of Death. Hope you enjoyed your one relevant moment on this show.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Benne posted:

I can't wait to see Hernandez get stiffed by goony fans again :allears:

I'm one of those goony fans! :q:

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


With LU hitting Netflix soon, I wrote a non-spoiler beginner's guide.

Basically profiles without outright saying what they do during the series.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Gavok posted:

With LU hitting Netflix soon, I wrote a non-spoiler beginner's guide.

Basically profiles without outright saying what they do during the series.

Nice write up! It's funny to read that and think about how much things changed over the seasons.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I'm still laughing that even in LU, Alberto can't take a clean loss, and immediately beats up Johnny to get his heat back. On the season finale.

This is the most WWE-rear end match on the UL1 card.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
AND SUDDENLY A CZW MATCH BROKE OUT

I still love Vamp/Pentagon

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Puma/Muertes was so loving good

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Benne posted:

I'm still laughing that even in LU, Alberto can't take a clean loss, and immediately beats up Johnny to get his heat back. On the season finale.

This is the most WWE-rear end match on the UL1 card.

Yeah that was my first thought when seeing it -- that one really felt like a WWE match.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
So for some reason there's four repeat episodes tonight, starting at 6 eastern. Weird. I'll have to miss at least the first two since I'll still be at work.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Various minor news:

https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/834619851540987904

Also the official Lucha Underground website got redone, with video links and direct merch links and news sections and stuff. Nice to see it as more than the barebones rear end page it has been since the start.

Also, the Wrestling Guy Store in Huntington Beach is selling these:

https://twitter.com/WrestlingGuyHP/status/834627870613868544

Which are bizarre. It's hard to believe those are officially licensed but on the other hand he @ed LU and that store is pretty tightly connected to them (lots of signings and appearances there) and he has to know how rabid Lucha Underground/MGM legal is about protecting its IP so...maybe they are official?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Those are kickass veladora designs

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Seasons 1 and 2 up on Netflix on March 15 according to CNet: https://www.cnet.com/news/netpicks-everything-coming-and-going-on-netflix-for-march-2017/

(Should be official as this is coming from Netflix's new releases list)

Edit: or, maybe not!

https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/835177682614767616

Final edit: March 15 is indeed the date:

https://twitter.com/EricVanWagenen/status/835214535111815168

StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Feb 24, 2017

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


quote:

Konnan, who co-runs The Crash (the Mexican indy that uses a lot of ex-AAA people and is where Pentagon turned up to announce his departure), just tweeted AAA are not only sending legal letters to promotions to stop them using Fenix and Penta at all regardless of what name they use, but sent a rep from Mexico's trademark office to try and stop Fenix from wrestling for Crash. The attempt was unsuccessful.

Konnan, for his part, says AAA owe a lot of people money from PPVs/iPPVs, and they had people work LU without working visas. The latter is why some didn't appear in season 3, because if they were caught on their tourist visa they'd be banned from America.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
"Mexico is coming for you, Chavo"
"Not with the tourist visas they won't."

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
The only person I can think of who that might apply to would be Daga, who it was public knowledge that he had some visa issue. I can't think of anyone else who was missing (not counting injury reasons). Blue Demon maybe?

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012
https://twitter.com/maskedrepublic/status/836309246576775168
https://twitter.com/maskedrepublic/status/836309418526461953
https://twitter.com/maskedrepublic/status/836305471048863744

Lucha Underground is bad

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

AAA is bad

Ghidzilla
May 12, 2009
I hope this won't rattle things too much going into season 4. :(

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

AAA does the talent management for LU.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
It'd be Lucha Underground's job to secure the American visas anyway.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Yeah at this point LU is absolutely bad

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

MassRafTer posted:

It'd be Lucha Underground's job to secure the American visas anyway.

It probably should have been, but they've told the story a bunch of times about how they got caught flat-footed and had to rewrite the first couple episodes on the fly because AAA told them the day before the first taping that a bunch of the talent couldn't work. So it definitely sounds like they were letting the AAA people handle that side of things, and I'm not at all surprised that AAA hosed it up and then pulled some sketchy poo poo to get guys across the border ASAP.

Ghidzilla posted:

I hope this won't rattle things too much going into season 4. :(

It shouldn't. Everyone who was already working S3 should have their papers in order, since according to Van Wagenen at that point MGM was checking these things -- which is probably why Daga got written out. If you want to talk who is running things, MGM is the real power behind LU at this point.

In terms of S4, the big question is whether the people who left AAA will still work LU, but both Pentagon and Fenix have said they want to keep doing it (Pentagon calling it the "best company he's ever worked for"), and Van Wagenen has said he still intends to use everyone. Sexy Star is maybe questionable since she "retired" that character and unmasked herself. Jack Evans, no one knows about but I imagine he's in the same boat as Fenix and Pentagon.

The only possible wrench in the works is that they put Dorian Roldan as a GM for the Lucha Libre FMV LLC. He's supposedly there primarily to get their merch in order and start setting up touring stuff, but if starts insisting that they not use the ex-AAA guys, who knows what it does. I have my doubts that he has the power on the LU side of things to insist on anything like that, especially for key guys like Pentagon and Fenix, but we'll see if he tries to be a problem.

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sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

StarkRavingMad posted:

The only person I can think of who that might apply to would be Daga, who it was public knowledge that he had some visa issue. I can't think of anyone else who was missing (not counting injury reasons). Blue Demon maybe?

Flamita/Night Claw, but that was by choice because Octagon is a violent prick.

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