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Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Cojawfee posted:

I wonder what it's like to program your own app that talks to god. Even if you're crazy, you have to think "I wrote all these responses, what am I doing here?"

I think the justification is more like god is using you to write the responses. Like, controlling your hand and poo poo like that. Psychics call it automatic writing.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cojawfee posted:

I wonder what it's like to program your own app that talks to god. Even if you're crazy, you have to think "I wrote all these responses, what am I doing here?"

IIRC it basically picks random words from a corpus, or it may at best have some Markov capability. He has a habit of adding some output at the end of his posts online, and it's just word salad.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Regular Nintendo posted:

This guy's visit to yospos is easily one of my favorite SA History type things

Oh my god, I have to read that. Happen to have a link to the thread(s)?

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Casimir Radon posted:

Competent integrated audio is something I could easily forget about if I was putting together a computer. Hopefully my brainfart would end before I ended up with an expensive card.

Even if you do get a crap integrated card, you might be fine with a USB soundcard as a replacement; even the small cheap ones are quite decent. I use one at work since the workstation there has a lot of annoying background noise if I load the graphics card by, say, scrolling a web page.

Another more exotic alternative is to use TOSLINK to connect to your amplifier, completely sidestepping the audio hardware on the card. I do this, mostly to get rid of a ground loop problem with the headphone amp. Kind of overkill, but eh - the DAC was just $20.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Regular Nintendo posted:

This guy's visit to yospos is easily one of my favorite SA History type things

E: the templeos/losethos author not powered descent

Can you link the thread? That sounds like it'd be an amazing trainwreck :allears:

klugman
Jan 28, 2009

Three-Phase posted:

TempleOS has no networking capability. At all.

check the web site. One can use a USB or ungodly floppy to install MegaMan, I guess

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

A Pinball Wizard posted:

Seriously, tell me what you consider to be "bloat" in a modern OS.

Metro/Modern UI, plus a second set of applications which work in it, so for example I have two calculator applications.

Whatever code is downloading advertisements and inserting them into the Start Menu.

Drivers which allow software to do whatever the hell it wants to my PC in the name of enforcing copy protection.

The bit that uses 100% CPU to "optimize" .NET assemblies (or something) occasionally.

Internet Explorer.


I realize that ReactOS is going to get a lot bigger if they add a reasonable number of necessary features to it, but I don't think many people think the stuff listed above is actually necessary.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Powered Descent posted:

Oh my god, I have to read that. Happen to have a link to the thread(s)?

mobby_6kl posted:

Can you link the thread? That sounds like it'd be an amazing trainwreck :allears:

I'll try to remember to dig it up tonight, its gotta be archived. The highlight of it was a poster who worked for intel owning the guy's rear end with actual ECE knowledge.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

A Pinball Wizard posted:

Neither Windows nor Linux is a tech relic, much as we might wish.

That "bloat" is the parts of the OS that do things like running 16 bit software and 64 bit software and modern sound and video cards and hard drives and etc. Seriously, tell me what you consider to be "bloat" in a modern OS.

"I need a right-click shortcut to create a 'Briefcase'"!
-Some Genius at Microsoft

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Buttcoin purse posted:

Metro/Modern UI, plus a second set of applications which work in it, so for example I have two calculator applications.

Whatever code is downloading advertisements and inserting them into the Start Menu.

Drivers which allow software to do whatever the hell it wants to my PC in the name of enforcing copy protection.

The bit that uses 100% CPU to "optimize" .NET assemblies (or something) occasionally.

Internet Explorer.


I realize that ReactOS is going to get a lot bigger if they add a reasonable number of necessary features to it, but I don't think many people think the stuff listed above is actually necessary.

All of these things except the driver thing are fixable in about 5 minutes on Win10. Edge (IE10) isn't even that bad, it's actually replaced Waterfox as my backup browser when a site doesn't like Chrome.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

axolotl farmer posted:

"I need a right-click shortcut to create a 'Briefcase'"!
-Some Genius at Microsoft

What even were those

Iirc it was like a designated folder that was supposed to aitomatically sync to removable media or something? Which lol at the idea of that in 1998

E: yup https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefcase_(Microsoft_Windows)

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Regular Nintendo posted:

What even were those

Iirc it was like a designated folder that was supposed to aitomatically sync to removable media or something? Which lol at the idea of that in 1998

Iomega must have paid Microsoft to include the feature so they would sell more Zip drives.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Regular Nintendo posted:

What even were those

Iirc it was like a designated folder that was supposed to aitomatically sync to removable media or something? Which lol at the idea of that in 1998

E: yup https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefcase_(Microsoft_Windows)

A 'briefcase' was used as part of a roaming profile so you could take your files with you, it was always a bit poo poo & why you wouldn't just use a network share I have no idea.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

axolotl farmer posted:

"I need a right-click shortcut to create a 'Briefcase'"!
-Some Genius at Microsoft

Wasn't there like one insane dude who was singlehandedly responsible for the "Send image over email" shortcut persisting in Firefox or IE?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Trainee PornStar posted:

A 'briefcase' was used as part of a roaming profile so you could take your files with you, it was always a bit poo poo & why you wouldn't just use a network share I have no idea.

Because in 1995, most people didn't have a network share, VPN access, or some other form of online connectivity between 2 machines.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Then they should be normal and just use standard business practice:

SalesReport25 - Copy (3) FINAL UPDATE2.xls

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Regular Nintendo posted:

What even were those

Iirc it was like a designated folder that was supposed to aitomatically sync to removable media or something? Which lol at the idea of that in 1998

E: yup https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefcase_(Microsoft_Windows)
I remember thinking My Briefcase was the most confusing and unnecessary thing ever, and well, it basically is/was, but I also actually used it when writing my master's thesis just as like a way of forcing it to be useful, and at one point my hard drive randomly died a couple hours after I had most recently sycned it and I could not believe that My Briefcase had just saved my life (to be clear, one of the reasons I used it is because I had like more than a hundred different documents I was editing, being chapters or notes for various sources or whatever; yes, this is before I discovered EverNote and eventually OneNote)

Sentient Data posted:

Then they should be normal and just use standard business practice:

SalesReport25 - Copy (3) FINAL UPDATE2.xls
I have not had to deal with anything like this for like ten years yet it still makes me angry to see that.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



These mentions of Briefcase made me think of the old Yahoo! Briefcase feature. It was a really early cloud-storage system and I think I was one of the few people to actually use it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Briefcase

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

CaptainSarcastic posted:

These mentions of Briefcase made me think of the old Yahoo! Briefcase feature. It was a really early cloud-storage system and I think I was one of the few people to actually use it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Briefcase
Was that what spurred Jason Scott into action archiving GeoCities once it became obvious Yahoo! really was just going to start shutting down things with basically no warning? I feel like it was some primitive cloud-like service, though honestly I thought the available space was even less than that.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Kelp Me! posted:

All of these things except the driver thing are fixable in about 5 minutes on Win10.

I gather that installing the Anniversary Update un-fixes these things, so I can only assume Microsoft intends to keep un-fixing things and it's too much effort to fight them.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

When I was thinking about bloat, I came up with something that I don't think ever came with Windows itself - for me it was part of Windows Live - but it was crap that Microsoft installed that I didn't want on my PC anyway: Microsoft Choice Guard.

I'm saddened that when you Google for that, :nws: Microsoft Choice Guard can choose to suck my cock :nws: is no longer in the first page of results. I mark that as NWS as the author's livejournal avatar is uhh, well I'm pretty sure it's merely some disney cartoons edited together to look a bit like furry porn, but better to be safe than sorry I guess. Personally I find it mesmerizing.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I like (Not really) the little pop-up bubble they have to lecture you about why you should be using Edge once in a while.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I am really glad I have MSDN access, and thus have access to Win10 LTSB N [AKA Windows 10 without stupid media feature garbage / feature addition updates, and with the ability to control other updates / prevent it from loving rebooting itself when it feels like]

That version of windows should be sold to the public as an enthusiast version or something

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Oh God, what have I done?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


The Claptain posted:

Oh God, what have I done?


Send the guy a screenshot of it running next to VLC playing porn.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

The Claptain posted:

Oh God, what have I done?



Wasted 5 minutes of your life, I imagine, no big deal.

I'd understand you saying "what have I done?" if you installed it on bare metal, dual-booting or something :v:

Or is "Oh God, what have I done?" actually how you communicate with this OS?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
Regular thread viewers may remember my nostalgia for the Psion pocket computers and my sadness that that form factor is no more:



Good News Everyone!


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/27/the_psions_is_back_meet_gemini/

Downside: $399 is only the backer price and full retail is going to be $650, which is too much.
The Indiegogo price is much more tempting, but no way would I buy hardware version 1.0 of anything

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

spog posted:

Regular thread viewers may remember my nostalgia for the Psion pocket computers and my sadness that that form factor is no more:



Good News Everyone!


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/27/the_psions_is_back_meet_gemini/

Downside: $399 is only the backer price and full retail is going to be $650, which is too much.
The Indiegogo price is much more tempting, but no way would I buy hardware version 1.0 of anything

Wanted one of these so bad when I was a kid but it wouldn't make sense these days. Phones are powerful enough and I can travel with my Surface if I need an actual computer. Still craving one though.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

spog posted:

Regular thread viewers may remember my nostalgia for the Psion pocket computers and my sadness that that form factor is no more:



Good News Everyone!


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/27/the_psions_is_back_meet_gemini/

Downside: $399 is only the backer price and full retail is going to be $650, which is too much.
The Indiegogo price is much more tempting, but no way would I buy hardware version 1.0 of anything

As someone that just got hosed out of $250 via kickstarter, gently caress crowdfunding things that actually look complicated and hard to achieve.

Never again will I back anything of any value.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

The Claptain posted:

Oh God, what have I done?



Well, now that you HAVE done it, we're going to need a trip report. Fire up "After Egypt" and communicate with God already!

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

As someone that just got hosed out of $250 via kickstarter, gently caress crowdfunding things that actually look complicated and hard to achieve.

Never again will I back anything of any value.

What did you back?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Frozen Pizza Party posted:

As someone that just got hosed out of $250 via kickstarter, gently caress crowdfunding things that actually look complicated and hard to achieve.

Never again will I back anything of any value.

Are you that guy who backed an erotic novel for >$200 and didn't get a refund when it failed, even after the creator explicitly told people he lost interest in the project and would gladly be providing refunds?

(I swear this happened in the Thermidor Kickstarter thread in Games very recently)

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Powered Descent posted:

:lol: if you aren't running TempleOS on your daily driver



God said he wanted to "compact" the Jews. God said Jews were guilty because they did not warn their brother sinners, so suffered their sin. Reputation is worth more than gold. Niggers have a reputation -- no fathers. Irish have a reputation. Germans have a reputation. Attacker has the advantage. Jews have a reputation. God said the French once stood for character. (Code of Chivalry) Ironic. I guess Jews did, too. Woah! God is boss. Too bad the Jews were cowards and didn't assassinate NAZI's.

CIA must surrender to the IRA. They started a war on God. You die, CIA niggers.

The CIA picked a fight with the IRA and God, a War on Terror to humiliate the Irish and attack the concept of God as represented by pathetic loser sand niggers. Surrender, silly CIA niggers. Yer hosed. You started a war with God. He talks.

Saying the word, "pedophile", is an attack on Catholics and God, by those who hate children.

We're not stupid. You are. God exists. Yer hosed, CIA niggers.

Saying the word, "homophobe", is an attack on God.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
I know nothing about old computer stuff, but I do know this obscure OS that I helped discover a long time ago. The website is no longer up, but there is video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Hv16pKSzI

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

jojoinnit posted:

Wanted one of these so bad when I was a kid but it wouldn't make sense these days. Phones are powerful enough and I can travel with my Surface if I need an actual computer. Still craving one though.
I've also been itching to get a 5MX for years now, but the longer I wait the less sense it makes, as they're pretty much useless by now. Still, I love the form factor and for $200 would take a modern version over a lovely tablet any day of the week.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Kelp Me! posted:

Are you that guy who backed an erotic novel for >$200 and didn't get a refund when it failed, even after the creator explicitly told people he lost interest in the project and would gladly be providing refunds?

(I swear this happened in the Thermidor Kickstarter thread in Games very recently)

I wish it was a story worth telling :(


Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

What did you back?

Tiko 3d Printer, had high hopes, they shipped 3000/13000 and just basically said sorry we spent all the money trying to make a working product, sorry the first 3k suck, we're looking for investors to invest in a lovely product and failed company.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

I wish it was a story worth telling :(


Tiko 3d Printer, had high hopes, they shipped 3000/13000 and just basically said sorry we spent all the money trying to make a working product, sorry the first 3k suck, we're looking for investors to invest in a lovely product and failed company.

Wasn't familiar with this but holy crap they promised a lot for that price point. Wonder what they could've produced for a more realistic price.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Wasn't familiar with this but holy crap they promised a lot for that price point. Wonder what they could've produced for a more realistic price.

No idea, but once they realized poo poo hit the fan they started taking "preorders" for after campaign printers, which was revealed that they did that to bolster funds to keep the development up which they failed at as well. Those have been refunded, but the $3m that they took via kickstarter is gone.

Kinda sucks, I'm pissed about it, but I'm really just glad it wasn't more than it was because it's way too late for a chargeback or anything like that.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Just get a gpd win.



Same specs as a surface pro 3, size of a 3ds, and it's got gaming controls built into it for when you realize that it's absolutely useless for anything other than clumsily playing skyrim at an obnoxiously loud volume in the hopes that somebody on the bus notices and mistakes your owning something interesting for being someone interesting.

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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



What's the battery life on that thing?

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