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canyoneer posted:Thinkin' about X-Wings. High level X-wing pilots don't need offense. Biggs means defense is not allowed. Generics can't use ordnance because of activation order more than anything. I don't think making them cheaper or able to throw red dice would appreciably affect the prevalence of either X-wings at the levels that don't already see them. What does an X-wing do that a Y-wing doesn't already do cheaper? Throwing an extra Plasma Torpedo is worth more than one fewer torpedo having one extra die each, due to how tokens work on defense.
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So I've flown my grandfather/son show the dark side list a few times now, and I like the synergy of Kylo putting the dark side curse on someone and Vader putting a automatic crit (though with only 2 dice!). It feels still a bit weak. Vader is very squishy, and I wonder if I need to take some things off (downgrade Inqy?) to put a Shield Upgrade on Vader Darth Vader - Crack Shot, TIE/x-1/Adv. Targeting Computer Inquisitor - PTL - Tie/v1 Starkiller Base Pilot - Kylo Ren, Op. Specialist, Kylo Ren's Shuttle I feel like I'm missing some of the big tournament elements for imperial (crack shot, Palpatine, Decimators). Maybe I'm better off running some defenders. I feel like FO aces go down way too fast, and when I lose one I've lost the game, and I'd rather play something with more hits. (though the only imperial large ship I have is the Upsilon). At the same time when I run a cpmbination of bomber/punisher/defenders I feel like they're so uinmanuverable that i get easily outmaneuvered and killed. Speaking of bombers this is interesting:
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Picked up a Quadjumper today, how are you guys kitting this thing out? Lol @ Focused Beam Targeting and why does this thing have SLAM? Oh because why wouldn't it have SLAM.
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My friends and I did a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abuJl9y0l2s I'm flying the scum and commentating as well. Let us know what you think!
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Feb 28, 2017 01:20
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1 and 2 k-turns with an astromech slot. 
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Feb 28, 2017 01:39
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2 K-Turn, SLAM into another 2 maneuver and then Boost. Because why the gently caress not.
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Some Numbers posted:2 K-Turn, SLAM into another 2 maneuver and then Boost. 2K, SLAM into another 2K, focus, in order to *literally not move at all* and still shoot.
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Feb 28, 2017 02:04
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quote:It is designed for hotac, but it could be used for casual play I'd imagine Is HOTAC usually pretty jank? Almost every time someone posts something for it on Reddit it just looks stupid as hell. Like the one guy who always throws things up for "Irregular Squadron" or whatever on there is always coming up with ships that look dumber and dumber.
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Strobe posted:2K, SLAM into another 2K, focus, in order to *literally not move at all* and still shoot. And use a secondary weapon to get a bonus die. Edit: someone on reddit pointed out you could do a 1 green forward then slam it and regen two shields with r2d2 bunnyofdoom fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Feb 28, 2017 02:23
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Strobe posted:2K, SLAM into another 2K, focus, in order to *literally not move at all* and still shoot. Don't forget the Targeting Astromech. I don't even know if you'd want to spend the points on a cannon, with 5 HP.
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Feb 28, 2017 02:28
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Chill la Chill posted:I might use those for the Upsilon or maybe one of them for the other wing of the Decimator. Goddamn thats a solid looking scheme chill.
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Feb 28, 2017 03:00
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Strobe posted:2K, SLAM into another 2K, focus, in order to *literally not move at all* and still shoot. Don't you have to SLAM into a different maneuver? Admiral Joeslop posted:Don't forget the Targeting Astromech. I don't even know if you'd want to spend the points on a cannon, with 5 HP. This is only possible with an R2 Astromech, since the 2K has to be green to take a SLAM action.
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Feb 28, 2017 03:03
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No. K-wings hard 2 SLAM into hard 2 all the time.
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Strobe posted:2K, SLAM into another 2K, focus, in order to *literally not move at all* and still shoot. Except you can't shoot if you SLAM? Or is there something I'm missing?
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Except you can't shoot if you SLAM? Or is there something I'm missing? Read that homebrew pilot's ability.
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kingcom posted:Goddamn thats a solid looking scheme chill. I swear I'll stop using purple at some point.  I just really like the color right now and thought galaxy background for vader would look neat. (I'm making a power bottom, probably a royal guard, on the other side)
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Having got the hang of the basic rules (I think), I need a good "second game" list for both sides. It needs to be comparatively easy to fly, not too frustrating for either player, introduce some new mechanics (but not too many), and not take too long to play out. For the sake of argument let's assume that I have an ungodly shitload of minis and access to pretty much anything through about wave VIII. Potentially enough to put together a mirror match. Therefore I'm kinda bewildered at all the options. What ships/loadouts/upgrades would provide a satisfying next step up from the introductory game? There's no particular reason for it to be 100 points if fewer would be better.
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saint gerald posted:Having got the hang of the basic rules (I think), I need a good "second game" list for both sides. It needs to be comparatively easy to fly, not too frustrating for either player, introduce some new mechanics (but not too many), and not take too long to play out. If you want lists that are the basics of all sorts of flying, I have traditionally recommended Fat Han (predator, gunner, c3po, engine upgrade, old title) + 3 Zs vs. Whisper (VI, ACM, FCS, gunner/kallus/captive) + 4 TIEs. This allows for an intro to flying different types of aces, turrets, and practice with formation flying. It's not overwhelming with multiple aces with 50 abilities each either. There's probably a nicer pair I should think of running new people through but I always thought that was a solid intro.
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Strobe posted:No. K-wings hard 2 SLAM into hard 2 all the time. Oh wow, you're right. The only criterion is that the SLAM maneuver is the same speed.
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Swap Whisper with a Defender and I'd call it good. A Phantom is probably a bit much to throw into your typical "I played a game now what" list. Also Phantoms are loving hard to fly for new players.
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Strobe posted:Swap Whisper with a Defender and I'd call it good. A Phantom is probably a bit much to throw into your typical "I played a game now what" list. Also Phantoms are loving hard to fly for new players. Oh yeah, right. I play with some diehard phantom players who stayed after the "nerf" and i used to run new players with the old movement rules too. Use this instead: Vessery (x7, juke) or Ryad (PTL, x7, TIE Mk 2) + 5 TIEs or 4 with Howlrunner.
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OK, sweet. Ryad looks like just the thing. Countess Ryad (34) Push the Limit (3) Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1) TIE/x7 (-2) "Howlrunner" (18) Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) Total: 90 View in Yet Another Squad Builder But one thing I don't have is Rebel Z-95s, although I have a couple of Scums. What else would go well with Han?
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With a slightly less Fat Han, a couple B-wings or a couple X-wings. If you're rolling at 90 points, it definitely won't be a really Fat Han, who at that point would be over 60% of your list in one ship.
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Chill la Chill posted:I swear I'll stop using purple at some point. Cant stop, wont stop.
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AndyElusive posted:Is HOTAC usually pretty jank? Almost every time someone posts something for it on Reddit it just looks stupid as hell. Like the one guy who always throws things up for "Irregular Squadron" or whatever on there is always coming up with ships that look dumber and dumber. I'm pretty sure the designer has said that part of the fun of it is building broken rear end combos with the stock ships and cards, so I guess if you're designing homebrew for it it's even more fun if the base you're starting from is already broken?
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I was near my local game store last night, had a litttle extra cash in my pocket and thought I'd pick up something new. As I'm looking at the display I came to the startling realization that I already have at least one of everything already. So I bought another striker. Jxforema fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Is there a competitive Striker list? I'm getting really tired of Scum, esp. mindlink now that other people in my vassal league group are using FenZuckMan, too.
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Feb 28, 2017 18:06
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I see them as slightly cheaper interceptors with arguably better named pilots
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Finster Dexter posted:Is there a competitive Striker list? I'm getting really tired of Scum, esp. mindlink now that other people in my vassal league group are using FenZuckMan, too. Vess Sabaac Quickdraw Is a legit list.
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What is HOTAC?
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Jxforema posted:I was near my local game store last night, had a litttle extra cash in my pocket and thought I'd pick up something new. As I'm looking at the display I came to the startling realization that I already have at least one of everything already.  .... You're supposed to buy the K-wing for the sweet TLTs.
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Chill la Chill posted:
Got four of those
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:What is HOTAC? Heroes of the Aturi Cluster. Homebrew coop campaign. Reputedly quite good, but it explains why the balance thrown out the window element isn't quite as bad as it might be.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Vess Is it this: "Pure Sabacc" (22) Veteran Instincts (1) Lightweight Frame (2) "Quickdraw" (29) Adaptability (0) Fire-Control System (2) Lightweight Frame (2) Special Ops Training (0) Colonel Vessery (35) Expertise (4) Ion Cannon (3) TIE/D (0) Total: 100 Seems pretty fun.
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There's a few variations. I like Vess with Tractor, Quickdraw with Expertise, Sabacc with just Trickshot and no LWF. I feel like swapping Tie/D Vessery for Expertise Brath might be worth trying.
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Finster Dexter posted:Is it this: Yup. Made top table at one of the system opens Edit actually canyonaros version did then lost to paratani 
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Thinking about flying the Ghost and YT-2400 together sometime. Two fat ships cruising around the board shooting at things. What's a good Ghost build?
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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banned from Starbucks posted:Yup. Made top table at one of the system opens I watched that game in person. Dude lost the game on the first engagement: Fenn was able to erase Sabacc in one shot and Vessery lost half his shields to Asajj/Manaroo. It was poorly flown by the Imperial player.
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