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Welcone to Li-ion batteries. I mean, yes, it sucks. poo poo swelling up inside your mac and destroying poo poo because they engineered it with sub-milimeter tolerances blows, but the only real solution is to either go back to the days of detachable battery packs or develop a new technology for energy storage that doesn't have all the nasty pitfalls that li-ion does. In the short term, consider batteries use items and replace them every 3-4 years. edit: this is an industry-wide problem. Google "Dell swollen battery" "toshiba swollen battery" etc and you fill find forums full of people with the exact same problem no matter the brand.
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magnificent7 posted:Holy gently caress. I came here to ask about melting/exploding/expanding parts of mac laptops. You're lucky it didn't catch on fire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13745262
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No alerts about replacing the battery. I'll post a photo when I get home.
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http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/28/14760400/iphone-8-2017-rumors-usb-c-lightning http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/2/7/14531478/apple-uac-usb-c-iphone-lightning-replacement .... More Dongles?
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Entropy238 posted:http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/28/14760400/iphone-8-2017-rumors-usb-c-lightning No, just like they said, WSJ likely has it wrong and Apple is just going to package a Lightning->USB C cable with iPhone instead of USB A.
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Is there any data out there on how often quad core MBPs (from various years) throttle the CPU when plugged in? Is it something that only happens in unusual situations, or is throttling pretty much guaranteed when running at full load for an extended period of time?
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To answer a question a few pages back about docks for the new MacBooks: we've finally gotten hold of some to test at work and after a couple of days of solid use I can safely say that the Dell USB-C dock they made for the Latitude range works really well out of the box. It's USB-C so the bandwidth is a bit limited but I've been able to do gigabit Ethernet, a 27" screen over mini-DP and a mouse/keyboard/USB hard drive with no problems while also having it charge the MBP over the one cable. Ironically, the Thunderbolt 3 version of the same dock (which is 3x the size and has a noisy fan in it, would not recommend) doesn't work for anything beyond charging because Apple seems to have blocked all TB3 peripherals that haven't been 'certified' from working  . You can get around the block by disabling SIP and running some scripts but yeah, we're not doing that in an enterprise environment.Still waiting on our supplier to source the Belkin and Elgato TB3 docks to test those. E: I should mention this is on a touchbar 15" pro. I couldn't get the first gen retina MacBook to drive the screen through the dock but it charged/picked up the network and peripherals just fine. Mercurius fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Feb 28, 2017 21:42
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Splinter posted:Is there any data out there on how often quad core MBPs (from various years) throttle the CPU when plugged in? Is it something that only happens in unusual situations, or is throttling pretty much guaranteed when running at full load for an extended period of time? 15" rMBPs typically do not throttle below nominal clockspeed under normal circumstances. If it does then it's likely a thermal issue. Badly applied or old thermal interface material, dust or lint accumulation in the heatsink or very high environment temperature. My 2013 rMBP with 2.3 Ghz holds 2.8 Ghz under full load and never throttles below nominal clockspeed, not even when the dGPU is running.
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I worked for Apple for 5 years, expanded batteries were extremely common. 9/10 it was a result of people ignoring the 'service battery' warning. In most instances, once the battery was replaced, the top case would 'pop back' into form and continue working. On the Airs at least. Very occasionally the trackpad glass would fracture as well. SOP was to charge the customer for a new battery, but to replace any damaged components for free.  
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Mar 1, 2017 00:40
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Doesn’t the “Service Battery” warning misleadingly say that the computer is safe to use? Maybe that’s just the “Replace Battery” warning.
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Yeast posted:I worked for Apple for 5 years, expanded batteries were extremely common. Popcorn! 
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My white plastic MacBook battery swelled up to the point that I was getting phantom trackpad clicks. Never saw a warning about it. Apple replaced it out of warranty for free.
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Mar 1, 2017 01:53
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Is this a common issue with mid-2014 15" MBPs w/ integrated graphics? It came on suddenly tonight and was a little surprising. I do still have a valid AppleCare protection plan, luckily. 
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Are those many individual stuck pixels? I had that appear slowly over the years on my 2013 15" rMBP. It was image retention related because I could see the shapes of the content displayed in the stuck pixels. Fortunately they replaced the display for free because the antireflective coating peeled.
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Any recommendations for a case to fit the new 13" Pros? (The soft zip-up variety, not the plastic shells.) I ordered one but it's clearly just for a generic 13" laptop and is a bit too baggy.
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TACD posted:Any recommendations for a case to fit the new 13" Pros? (The soft zip-up variety, not the plastic shells.) I ordered one but it's clearly just for a generic 13" laptop and is a bit too baggy. Booq Mamba STM makes some nice ones too
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Incase https://www.incase.com/shop/devices/macbook/mackbook-pro-2016-with-touch-bar/
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When I checked a month or so ago, Incase's offerings were still for the old MacBook Pros regardless of their marketing toward the Touch Bar models. Their 15" sleeves still left a ton of room for my Touch bar MBP. Hopefully by now they've updated their offerings but I wouldn't trust the website. Go into the store to make sure. For the 15" Touch Bar models I've found sleeves designed for the 14" Surface Book Pro work really well, but that doesn't help anyone asking for a 13" sleeve. 
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:When I checked a month or so ago, Incase's offerings were still for the old MacBook Pros regardless of their marketing toward the Touch Bar models. Their 15" sleeves still left a ton of room for my Touch bar MBP. Hopefully by now they've updated their offerings but I wouldn't trust the website. Go into the store to make sure. Good call! I should've added, I normally buy the Incase stuff from the Apple Retail store, so yeah - put your computer in it to make sure its what you're after.
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eames posted:Are those many individual stuck pixels? I had that appear slowly over the years on my 2013 15" rMBP. It was a green tint all over the screen, which developed into the shape of two burnt-in green windows after a reboot. After a few more reboots and an hour of waiting the screens went back to normal  Best guess after googling is that I introduced static electricity with a microfiber cloth.
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Buca di Bepis posted:It was a green tint all over the screen, which developed into the shape of two burnt-in green windows after a reboot. And that static charge caused repulsion between two layers in the screen and temporary delamination? Interesting.
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TACD posted:Any recommendations for a case to fit the new 13" Pros? (The soft zip-up variety, not the plastic shells.) I ordered one but it's clearly just for a generic 13" laptop and is a bit too baggy. i have a leather knomo and it's good
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i have a leather knomo and it's good Read that as leather kimono, laughed, and then google told me that it's actually a thing. I have learned today.
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Would I be able to use a rMBP 15" as a secondary display for another rMBP 15" using a Thunderbolt cable and Target Display mode? I'm doing a quick edit in someone's house this Sunday and don't want to lug the 27" into the car with me.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Would I be able to use a rMBP 15" as a secondary display for another rMBP 15" using a Thunderbolt cable and Target Display mode? I'm doing a quick edit in someone's house this Sunday and don't want to lug the 27" into the car with me. No
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Mar 3, 2017 13:18
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Yeast posted:I worked for Apple for 5 years, expanded batteries were extremely common. YIKES. I said I'd post photos a few days ago. Here it is, nothing nearly as bad as those, but hey. Take a look at my $1100 doorstop.  
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Bob Morales posted:Booq Mamba Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i have a leather knomo and it's good
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I just picked up a refurb 2015 13" MacBook Pro this week and it's mostly all good. One thing though - twice I've closed my computer at around 35-40% battery power and woken up the next day to a dead battery. Do MacBooks no longer go to sleep when the lid is closed, or am I a moron? 
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ub posted:I just picked up a refurb 2015 13" MacBook Pro this week and it's mostly all good. One thing though - twice I've closed my computer at around 35-40% battery power and woken up the next day to a dead battery. Do MacBooks no longer go to sleep when the lid is closed, or am I a moron? It's not sleeping for some reason. I closed the lid on mine last week and it drops like 2%/day at the most
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ub posted:I just picked up a refurb 2015 13" MacBook Pro this week and it's mostly all good. One thing though - twice I've closed my computer at around 35-40% battery power and woken up the next day to a dead battery. Do MacBooks no longer go to sleep when the lid is closed, or am I a moron? As far as I'm aware you usually can't even change that behavior intentionally without a third-party utility, I remember using InsomniaX to disable lid sleep.
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ub posted:I just picked up a refurb 2015 13" MacBook Pro this week and it's mostly all good. One thing though - twice I've closed my computer at around 35-40% battery power and woken up the next day to a dead battery. Do MacBooks no longer go to sleep when the lid is closed, or am I a moron? It shouldn't be burning through that much battery, but I think newer MBP's do low level CPU/network stuff even in sleep mode. Maybe it's like when you get a new phone and your battery life sucks for the first week as it's backing up or updating.
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I have a Early 2013 rMBP (Out of Warranty) with a cycle count of 218 and at ~83% health. Purchased in November of last year with 194 cycle count and (mostly) have it plugged in. I know Apple replaces them under warranty if they're under 80%, but my current situation with cycle count/health seems a bit off, especially since it seems to drain extremely fast. Diagnostics run by the Genius showed no signs of a faulty battery, so I'm wondering if I should just pony up the $200 soon or just wait.
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EconOutlines posted:I have a Early 2013 rMBP (Out of Warranty) with a cycle count of 218 and at ~83% health. Purchased in November of last year with 194 cycle count and (mostly) have it plugged in. You could try but the battery is just losing its capacity as it gets old
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Bob Morales posted:You could try but the battery is just losing its capacity as it gets old So are you saying the battery is losing its capacity as it gets old or as the MBP gets old? The battery was replaced exactly a year ago.
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Krispy Kareem posted:It shouldn't be burning through that much battery, but I think newer MBP's do low level CPU/network stuff even in sleep mode. Maybe it's like when you get a new phone and your battery life sucks for the first week as it's backing up or updating. Weird. Just did a test, leaving it closed and not plugged in for two hours - battery % stayed where it was. So, good. My cycle count is only 16, and the battery life when I'm using it is way better than where my old MacBook Air was, so I'm happy. Was just wondering if there was some weird new behavour that I wasn't aware of that would cause it to go from 40% to dead overnight. Cuz yeah, I remember that getting a MacBook to stay awake with the lid closed usually took some effort.
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The laptops are supposed to be able to last 30 days sleeping. Something is wrong I think.
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My 2016 ate like half a battery the first night I had it closed. It's totally normal now. I chalked it up to indexing or something.
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EconOutlines posted:So are you saying the battery is losing its capacity as it gets old or as the MBP gets old? The battery was replaced exactly a year ago. Check the manufactured date of the battery. Doesn't matter how old the MacBook itself is
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Bob Morales posted:Check the manufactured date of the battery. Doesn't matter how old the MacBook itself is July 4th, 2015 according to coconutBattery, so I guess that could be my issue.
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ub posted:Weird. Just did a test, leaving it closed and not plugged in for two hours - battery % stayed where it was. So, good. My cycle count is only 16, and the battery life when I'm using it is way better than where my old MacBook Air was, so I'm happy. The Terminal command code:
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