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Time to make Chris-Chan woke...And not turn out like Ahuviya Harel. Although the irony of Chris-chan having a beef with an equally disturbing internet failchild over being trans and communist and eventually becoming trans and communist is just too good.
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Feb 28, 2017 19:58
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The DSA is weird bc its supporters run the gamut from actual commies to Bernie Sanders-style social democrats
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Feb 28, 2017 20:25
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exmarx posted:The DSA is weird bc its supporters run the gamut from actual commies to Bernie Sanders-style social democrats That is what happens when you pitch yourself as a big tent socialist organization. It will be interesting to see what becomes of the DSA when these internal contradictions come to a head. I think we will see that happening next electoral cycle.
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Feb 28, 2017 20:56
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Mr. Lobe posted:That is what happens when you pitch yourself as a big tent socialist organization. It will be interesting to see what becomes of the DSA when these internal contradictions come to a head. I think we will see that happening next electoral cycle. If the internal contradictions are coming to a head, then things are going great because there's somehow both a viable social democrat and a viable candidate further to the left of the social democrat
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Feb 28, 2017 21:01
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Civilized Fishbot posted:If the internal contradictions are coming to a head, then things are going great because there's somehow both a viable social democrat and a viable candidate further to the left of the social democrat I am thinking it will be more a matter of a conflict between "engage with whatever ends up passing as leftist electoral politics" vs "none of this electoral politics bullshit" camps. I think it is extremely optimistic to suppose we will have any worthwhile candidates with a real shot of getting elected. And I think that will make those internal conflicts come out.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:04
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Given how DSA is organized, I don't really see the problem there either aside from more or less academic concerns about whether the national org should endorse candidates or whatever. If there are sufficient numbers of people in a given local who want to pursue non-electoral stuff, they're pretty much free to go ahead and do it. I'm still new so maybe I'm just not up on how big a role the national organization plays, but it seems like it pretty much just exists for visibility, onboarding new members, and for facilitating the formation of new local chapters.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:14
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Mr. Lobe posted:I am thinking it will be more a matter of a conflict between "engage with whatever ends up passing as leftist electoral politics" vs "none of this electoral politics bullshit" camps. I think it is extremely optimistic to suppose we will have any worthwhile candidates with a real shot of getting elected. And I think that will make those internal conflicts come out. The DSA was pretty strongly behind Bernie in 2016, so I'd expect a pretty big wave of electoral enthusiasm for anyone similar in 2020 (and someone will definitely run as Bernie 2). Especially since like half of the people in the DSA joined because of Bernie
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Feb 28, 2017 21:15
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I still think the DSA should keep an ear out for European Socialist parties, Portuguese ones at least. Matt may have decried those as "neoliberal sellouts" but at least those had power and quite an organization apparatus. I also don't get to wake up to Jeronimo de Sousa or Antonio Costa or Catarina Martins having a shitfit about the mentally ill and posting a thing on how leaning on lgbt matters means you're leaving the non-lgbt behind or whatever stupid poo poo they pull once a week.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:15
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So, is the next Bernie going to be another democrat? Lot of DSA and socialist people on general I know are super opposed to working with the democratic party again, and I think, with good reason. Maybe the sector within the DSA that is opposed to the dems is smaller than I think, or maybe we really will luck out and get a real progressive 3rd party candidate with a shot at winning, but I think no matter what it is going to be revelatory to whether the big tent socialism tactic will hold.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:19
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I mean, it's gotta be someone at least recognizable from the Democrat perspective for them to even stand a chance, but I'm not aware of any current democrats who would actually be a good and viable contender.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:24
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100 degrees Calcium posted:I mean, it's gotta be someone at least recognizable from the Democrat perspective for them to even stand a chance, but I'm not aware of any current democrats who would actually be a good and viable contender. Warren or Ellison, Booker will probably run also. I feel the DSA has good intentions and may be a good organization but they certainly will not be a party IMO. Currently I (as a member) have some issues with the fact that they coming off childish at times, with leaders doing far too many weird twitter jokes that will never gain them any normie support. I also don't feel that a lot of their leaders really have an idea on how to speak to working class people to get them to move over, which is kinda silly cause all they have to do is build off Bernie's momentum. The best bet is to use it as an organizing group like the Tea Party and push the Dems left, IMO.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:50
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some dude I follow on twitter was complaining about that yesterday. kinda dumb I feel. twitter is a side show ultimately. I don't know if the DSA will ever accomplish much but complaining about them making jokes on twitter is silly. making jokes is just about the only thing twitter is good for.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:53
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100 degrees Calcium posted:I mean, it's gotta be someone at least recognizable from the Democrat perspective for them to even stand a chance, but I'm not aware of any current democrats who would actually be a good and viable contender.  It's the suede denim secret police
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Feb 28, 2017 22:06
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uber_stoat posted:some dude I follow on twitter was complaining about that yesterday. kinda dumb I feel. twitter is a side show ultimately. I don't know if the DSA will ever accomplish much but complaining about them making jokes on twitter is silly. making jokes is just about the only thing twitter is good for. Our current president uses it to broadcast his message effectively
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Feb 28, 2017 22:13
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CortezFantastic posted:Our current president uses it to broadcast his message effectively it's arguable the efficacy of his constant twitter shitposting. my opinion is he would be president even if his campaign manager had confiscated his phone at the start of the race. TV media bears more of the blame for the rise of Trumpism than twitter. I waste a lot of time on twitter but I try to keep in mind that it's ultimately a dying social media platform with no business model.
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uber_stoat posted:it's arguable the efficacy of his constant twitter shitposting. my opinion is he would be president even if his campaign manager had confiscated his phone at the start of the race. TV media bears more of the blame for the rise of Trumpism than twitter. I waste a lot of time on twitter but I try to keep in mind that it's ultimately a dying social media platform with no business model. What do you mean by 'TV media'? CNN is dying. MSNBC is dying. Fox News is doing slightly better, but is on life support as far as viewship goes. Fewer people watch CNN than watch League of Legends tournaments on Twitch. Broadcast news is definitely a different thing, but I don't remember people ganging up on CBS/ABC/NBC for their coverage.
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Feb 28, 2017 22:19
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I doubt there will be a Bernie 2 as a national candidate in the DNC. please don't doubt Democrats desire to clutch their center right position and fail constantly
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hubris.height posted:I doubt there will be a Bernie 2 as a national candidate in the DNC. please don't doubt Democrats desire to clutch their center right position and fail constantly They've made it clear that they'll actively resist any attempts to get them to actually represent the needs of American people. This was super obvious even before Tom Perez became DNC chair, but that's the final nail in their coffin. I guess they think people will be happy with an inclusive party that doesn't actually do anything to aid the needs of the people it includes.
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Feb 28, 2017 22:51
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Are there publicly available lists of weird left twitter I can follow?
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Ron Jeremy posted:Are there publicly available lists of weird left twitter I can follow? Most of the people roasting Giordano in this article would be a solid follow http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/al-giordano-twitter-drama-accusations/
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Penisaurus Sex posted:What do you mean by 'TV media'? Yeah but cable news viewers are the people who actually elected Trump and even before that retired people who watch tv all day were the most consistent republican voters.
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Ok, Felix is my favorite chapo boy again https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/836769134109147137 https://twitter.com/alex_navarro/status/836784875545968640 Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 04:23
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Finding out Alex is a grey wolf pushed beastcast ahead of the bombcast.
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Virgil has been known to troll https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.4dc572115fa2
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https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/837005103118888961 goddamnit lol
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Ron Jeremy posted:Virgil has been known to troll Holy poo poo Virgil is a legend "Religion changed to shiite Muslim for some reason" 
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Mondays are haraam.
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Forums Terrorist posted:Mondays are haraam. if I have said it once I've said it a thousand times
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https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/837028203772379137 I don't know what's better; the '80's high school movie villain in the video, or our boy Robby Soave going full "SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT" over it.
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Mr. Lobe posted:That is what happens when you pitch yourself as a big tent socialist organization. It will be interesting to see what becomes of the DSA when these internal contradictions come to a head. I think we will see that happening next electoral cycle. Honestly, I think this last election cycle has taught a lot of people some valuable lessons about the need for a unified left. Sure, there's definitely disagreements about the relationship with the Democratic Party, but I don't see even the Left Caucus folks getting upset with the idea of a DSA member potentially running as an open socialist in a Democratic primary. Maybe it's just because the elections we're talking about are relatively small scale so it doesn't seem like it would be a huge drain on resources, so it may not come to a head until/if we start trying to get people into higher level seats.
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Hulk Krogan posted:https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/837028203772379137 dude asking if the trash bin is for composting
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Mar 1, 2017 22:29
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Where are these DSA gang tags coming from?
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Mar 1, 2017 22:30
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The DSA thread Edit: This post,specifically.
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Mar 1, 2017 22:33
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The best is Virgil gas lighting the dude trying to 'um actually Bernie is not a house rep' in the replies
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Is armystrangs podcast a good listen for someone who's never been in or know a poo poo about the US armed forces? Are there any particularly good eps?
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uber_stoat posted:fun hearing Felix talk about the "old internet" full of misanthropic teens and knowing he was probably talking about this site. but we aren't teens anymore are we.... This actually bothered me because the narrative I've learned is that if we actually go to the origins of the Internet you're just gonna find what is essentially bunch of hippies. Also, Chapo Trap House is one podcast I keep listening although I kinda hate it, even if I share their rough political leanings. But this latest episode about the alt right was pure gold. Now if there was a version with all the undecipherable Internet culture poo poo taken out it would be a really good primer on what alt right actually is. White supremacists is too much of a simplfication and doesn't really capture how lovely "the movement" really is.
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super fart shooter posted:Is armystrangs podcast a good listen for someone who's never been in or know a poo poo about the US armed forces? Are there any particularly good eps? It's pretty good. The first few eps are really rough but it gets good the first ep from January on
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Dessel posted:This actually bothered me because the narrative I've learned is that if we actually go to the origins of the Internet you're just gonna find what is essentially bunch of hippies. Kind of? The internet of the 90's was pretty hippy libertarian (like Burning Man), which allowed for the creation of niche spaces for every variety of identity you'll ever see. A lot of the popular identities centered around being a lovely misanthrope who closeted themselves away in the internet, and this sort of bitter world view attracted lots of angsty teenagers. And that's pretty much early SA, PoE, Fark in a nutshell.
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Dessel posted:This actually bothered me because the narrative I've learned is that if we actually go to the origins of the Internet you're just gonna find what is essentially bunch of hippies. If you actually go the origins of the internet you'll arrive at DARPA. You have to qualify what era you're talking about when discussing old internet and Felix was pretty clearly talking about late 90's/early 00's forum culture
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