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Manatee Cannon posted:it ended when gon and gin had their talk on top of that tree imo like the stuff it's setting up seems interesting but the election was a good capstone to the chimera ant arc and the chimera ant arc is probably the best shonen manga arc there'll ever be so im good with hxh ending with the coda of the election
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Endorph posted:yeah i dont think it needed more than that anyway If you really want to read about the dark continent just read Toriko instead it's basically the same thing, but hungrier
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Mar 2, 2017 03:01
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Fabricated posted:I just want you all to know, that HxH is never going to be finished. Yuu Yuu Hakusho was better anyway
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the best explanation I've ever heard about Toriyama that he fell rear end-backwards into one of the greatest fighting manga of all time. There is no doubt he inspired so many, heck Kishimoto and Oda cite him as inspirations. I think Toriyama always wanted to go back to gag stuff, but got trapped by DBZ... Anyway, BnHA feels very 'post dragon ball' to me. Like Horikoshi wanted to take all of the pathos and emotion of one piece and apply it to american super heroes...
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Mar 2, 2017 03:11
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Silver2195 posted:Toriyama's actual writing is not that great. When you read the volumes of early Dragon Ball, it's really obvious that he's making stuff up as he goes along. Then there's Namek, which is a slog (not as much of a slog as the anime version, but still a slog).  Especially since there's plenty of modern examples of manga authors trying to do things by the seat of their pants or being surprised by editor dictates or whatever with the end result being that the comic goes on a swan dive into the toilet. (See also: Bleach, Naruto).key party favors posted:the best explanation I've ever heard about Toriyama that he fell rear end-backwards into one of the greatest fighting manga of all time. There is no doubt he inspired so many, heck Kishimoto and Oda cite him as inspirations. I think Toriyama always wanted to go back to gag stuff, but got trapped by DBZ... And MHA itself is really well written... it's not really a deconstruction of the genre like Onepunch Man, but it pulls elements from the better aspects of western comics and tries to look at how people actually become heroes for relatively believable reasons. Taking the usual character archetypes and giving understandable reasons for their behavior. It would have been trivially easy to make Bakugou make Sasuke-style contrived dumbass decisions to keep a rivalry going for example, but that hasn't happened.
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Endorph posted:yeah i dont think it needed more than that anyway I'm the guy who thinks One Piece fell off really bad and even currently is nowhere near as good as it used to be, and for me the quintessential shounen arc is Enies Lobby.
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A fun way to demonstrate the power of Toriyama's style is to remember that this is the guy who managed to make putting eyes and a smile on a teardrop the most iconic enemy in all of jrpgs.
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Mar 2, 2017 03:28
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Silver2195 posted:Toriyama's actual writing is not that great. When you read the volumes of early Dragon Ball, it's really obvious that he's making stuff up as he goes along. Then there's Namek, which is a slog (not as much of a slog as the anime version, but still a slog). Dragon Ball (not most of the Z part) is unabashedly an adventure/gag comic with some fights though and kind of puts its beloved counterpart One Piece to shame on that front, so saying the actual writing isn't that great is kind of silly for that part. Because, who the gently caress wants an overarching story for a gag comic?
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Fabricated posted:I'm the guy who thinks One Piece fell off really bad and even currently is nowhere near as good as it used to be, and for me the quintessential shounen arc is Enies Lobby. Dressrosa is like Skypeia of the New World in that it goes on too long, the new stuff has been great
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Shugojin posted:A fun way to demonstrate the power of Toriyama's style is to remember that this is the guy who managed to make putting eyes and a smile on a teardrop the most iconic enemy in all of jrpgs. Counterpoint: those slimes are ugly and suck. A better summation of Toriyama's style is that he made Robo, Lucca and Ayla, but also Chrono, Marle and everyone from Blue Dragon.
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Shugojin posted:If you really want to read about the dark continent just read Toriko instead it's basically the same thing, but hungrier
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Last Celebration posted:Dragon Ball (not most of the Z part) is unabashedly an adventure/gag comic with some fights though and kind of puts its beloved counterpart One Piece to shame on that front, so saying the actual writing isn't that great is kind of silly for that part. Because, who the gently caress wants an overarching story for a gag comic? I know humor is subjective, but I don't find early Dragon Ball all that funny. And it became a serious battle manga by the Piccolo Sr. arc if not earlier.
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Vengarr posted:Counterpoint: those slimes are ugly and suck. There it is, the wronged opinion. Silver2195 posted:I know humor is subjective, but I don't find early Dragon Ball all that funny. And it became a serious battle manga by the Piccolo Sr. arc if not earlier. Have you read the Viz translation? And yeah it's a gradual descent, but I was too lazy to elaborate.
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Last Celebration posted:There it is, the wronged opinion. Yes, it was the Viz translation.
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Endorph posted:yeah i dont think it needed more than that anyway The chimera ant arc is great and the whole "BTW we're actually just a tiny continent in a huge world" reveal is neat until the whole exploration thing starts up and the series becomes 90% words. It really should have ended with the chat on the tree. The like one fight since then wasn't very fun to read through because it was between one of the cooler characters and a guy who just has infinite super powers.
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Blaze Dragon posted:It's rather hilarious when you remember that the modern shonen genre is almost entirely based on the manga made by possibly one of the laziest authors ever. Most of the late-80s/early-90s authors had the right idea: spend 5-10 years making a really great story, use the goodwill from that to negotiate better contracts, take your time pumping out new stuff, occasionally go back to the first hit to boost your standing. I think Araki is the most frequent of those guys, and even he moved to a monthly release schedule.
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Nuebot posted:The chimera ant arc is great and the whole "BTW we're actually just a tiny continent in a huge world" reveal is neat until the whole exploration thing starts up and the series becomes 90% words. It really should have ended with the chat on the tree. The like one fight since then wasn't very fun to read through because it was between one of the cooler characters and a guy who just has infinite super powers. That fight owned and was fun to read.
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https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/837185518647533568 Formal word of a week's hiatus.
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It claims the usual 'sudden illness' as the cause. Hope our boy is okay. Get well soon, Horikoshi, I need my fix.
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Mar 2, 2017 07:47
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I will never read berserk or HxH until they are finished Hence I will never read berserk or HxH
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just read hxh until gon and his dad talk at the top of that big tree, then stop it's a perfect ending point and you get a fantastic manga to read through until you get there. I haven't looked into hxh in ages but I'm totally satisfied with it as is
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Mar 2, 2017 07:53
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but then you miss the best fight in the series
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That's where the 2011 anime ends and it's a supremely good adaptation so either way is a good way to experience HxH with a satisfying conclusion that leaves the possibility for more (because there is more, just not very much of it)
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Vengarr posted:Counterpoint: those slimes are ugly and suck. Jesus loving Christ
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C'mon, guys, people re allowed to be wrong.
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I'm just wondering if we need to call a crisis helpline or something. 
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Vengarr posted:Counterpoint: those slimes are ugly and suck. This might be the worst opinion I've ever read. Congratulations, you can retire from the internet now.
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Butt Ghost posted:but then you miss the best fight in the series But it's terrible. Fights in HxH are great because there's a sort of mechanical style to how powers work and it doesn't usually do the typical thing of a guy pulling a brand new super power out to win the fight at the last minute. That fight just has one guy pull out new power after new power and throw an endless number of explosive bodies at his opponent until he wins.
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PMush Perfect posted:C'mon, guys, people re allowed to be wrong. Where do think you are, huh? 
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Ruggington posted:Jesus loving Christ They're shiiiiiit
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Butt Ghost posted:but then you miss the best fight in the series Hope Horikoshi doesn't die this year.
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Grouchio posted:Perfect OVA material by Madhouse. Everyone who reads Berserk, World Trigger, HxH, and MHA can sit around and commiserate.  
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Vengarr posted:They're shiiiiiit
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Kentaro Miura isn't dead, he's just sick of grimdark and really wants to be drawing moe instead. Kinda like how Hajime no Ippo's author is sick of boxing. Even if you really love your topic, 15+ years toiling endlessly on the same project is enough to make you scream. That's why sane people usually take breaks before they burn out.
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Hogama posted:https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/836813026883997700 Please be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better paced
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Please be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better pacedPlease be better paced If they do only the stain arc in like 12 episodes in a second cour- that's gonna have to slow down a lot if they don't do any filler. I think we might get semester finals now.
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I watched the anime before I read the manga, so I guess I wouldn't know any better, but I didn't feel the first season was too slow or anything.
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Reinanigans posted:I watched the anime before I read the manga, so I guess I wouldn't know any better, but I didn't feel the first season was too slow or anything. I could definitely tell they were stretching at points but it didn't hurt my enjoyment any. It actually felt relatively normal paced for a shonen anime, because the manga is so breakneck most of the time. As much as I appreciate that, there are some moments where it'd be nice to let things breathe without it smash cutting to the next morning in homeroom with Eraserhead announcing the next arc as soon as a conclusion happens.
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