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What does that "no markers on the field for reference to fielders" thing mean?
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Mar 2, 2017 17:39
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Your Taint posted:What does that "no markers on the field for reference to fielders" thing mean? It means that hill in center field for the Astros is finally illegal like God intended.
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Your Taint posted:What does that "no markers on the field for reference to fielders" thing mean? Teams were using laser pointers to position outfielders last season.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:43
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Your Taint posted:What does that "no markers on the field for reference to fielders" thing mean? Wasn't there some team, I want to say the Royals, that was marking different fielder alignments with paint in the outfield last year? E: Dodgers with a laser pointer.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:44
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Pancakes posted:Wasn't there some team, I want to say the Royals, that was marking different fielder alignments with paint in the outfield last year? It was the Dodgers I think. They were using a laser range finder in pregame drills and then leaving markers. Now teams will just have to make divots in the grass.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:45
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^ e. Yes it was the Dodgers. I remember because it came up when the manager of the other team noticed it and threw a big sad over technology ruining the game and giving an unfair advantage. It was still in the news cycle when the Dodgers came to Wrigley to play the Cubs, and when they asked Joe about it expecting him to add fuel to the fire, he was just kind of like "uh... who cares? Sounds pretty smart, actually." and then the media (mostly) shut up about it. howe_sam posted:Teams were using laser pointers to position outfielders last season. Weren't they only doing it before games as part of pre-game drills though? Is the rule targeted towards that, or is it only saying you can't use markers during the course of play? Because the latter makes total sense while the former is dumb as hell. Grittybeard posted:Didn't people drool over Mark Prior's mechanics too before Dusty Baker killed him? Maybe it wasn't Prior, I remember hearing a lot about it with one of the guys in those Baker Cubs rotations. Prior's mechanics were touted by scouts as being "the perfect delivery" and being absolutely effortless. Then as soon as he got injured Actual DoctorsTM pointed out he was actually torquing the every loving poo poo out of his pitching elbow. Sydin fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Mar 2, 2017 17:49
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Intruder posted:I've already seen it called the Carter Capps Rule so yeah I expect he'll be grandfathered in, though, otherwise the MLBPA might well have hosed him out of a lucrative career.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:53
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Good, end Carter Capps' stupid hop and next we can end Urias' stupid illegal pickoff move.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:54
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Sydin posted:^ Well that, plus staying in the game after taking that liner off his pitching elbow, and the collision at 2b with Marcus Giles didn't help matters either.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:10
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Salvor_Hardin posted:It means that hill in center field for the Astros is finally illegal like God intended. They already bulldozed it out of existence, dude.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:13
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Sydin posted:Prior's mechanics were touted by scouts as being "the perfect delivery" and being absolutely effortless. Then as soon as he got injured Actual DoctorsTM pointed out he was actually torquing the every loving poo poo out of his pitching elbow. Didn't Prior's implosion also basically wreck the coaching career of Tom House?
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Mar 2, 2017 18:27
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Good Dog posted:Everyone touted Matt Moore at having perfect mechanics and free and easy mid 90s fastballs and he got TJS. I don't know how much I still by in to pitching mechanics for injuries. Maybe for repeatability and stuff but not for TJS. At this point I don't think mechanics mean dick-all for TJS stuff or you'd see some kind of correlations happening. This is not a small or under-examined data set.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:29
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Inspector_666 posted:At this point I don't think mechanics mean dick-all for TJS stuff or you'd see some kind of correlations happening. This is not a small or under-examined data set. Pretty much. The fact of the matter is that pitching is an inherently unnatural and violent motion, and things are going to break.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:39
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Timby posted:Pretty much. The fact of the matter is that pitching is an inherently unnatural and violent motion, and things are going to break. The actual overhand throw isn't unnatural at all, really. Throwing a baseball at 98mph 90 times in a row gets there, though.
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Mar 2, 2017 18:45
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Good Dog posted:It was the Dodgers I think. They were using a laser range finder in pregame drills and then leaving markers. I guess this is an improvement over a small spray-painted tuft of grass because....?
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Mar 2, 2017 19:24
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I've stopped paying attention to Carter Capps after the Mariners traded him. Is he still a decent reliever?
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Mar 2, 2017 19:54
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seiferguy posted:I've stopped paying attention to Carter Capps after the Mariners traded him. Is he still a decent reliever? TBD as of today
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Mar 2, 2017 19:55
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Imagine coming this close to making it in the big leagues and MLB creates a rule specifically to gently caress you over, lol. I mean it definitely should be against the rules because it's obviously a big advantage for the pitcher. You'd think one of his coaches along the way would have sat him and down and tried to convince him to move to a more regular pitching style just in case this sort of thing happened. Like there was no way he was gonna get away with it forever.
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Mar 2, 2017 20:01
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Mar 2, 2017 20:08
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https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/837373789499449344
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Mar 2, 2017 20:17
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I will laugh so hard if it turns out the Padres posting this tweet inadvertently got one of their own players' deliveries outlawed: https://twitter.com/Padres/status/831917274227281920
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Mar 2, 2017 20:19
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That is so obviously not OK.
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Mar 2, 2017 20:22
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Inspector_666 posted:They already bulldozed it out of existence, dude. The worst day 
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Mar 2, 2017 20:24
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lol has a persons entire career been effectively ended by a rule change before? The odds of this fringe reliever dude relearning his delivery from scratch seems extremely low.
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Mar 2, 2017 20:39
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Lots of dudes when they started testing for steroids 
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Mar 2, 2017 20:41
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God I hated the loving Price deal when it was signed and I hate it even more now. Thank christ we finally blew our prospect load on another frontline pitcher in Sale or we'd be turbofucked right out of the gate. And truth be told it's not looking rosy after Sale and Porcello anyway.
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Mar 2, 2017 20:42
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So uh Just saw this exchange https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/836575761830195200 https://twitter.com/gehrig38/status/836576640306118656 https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/836577860055871489 
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Mar 2, 2017 20:43
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Jesus loving Christ schilling
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Mar 2, 2017 20:56
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Paul Zuvella posted:lol has a persons entire career been effectively ended by a rule change before? The odds of this fringe reliever dude relearning his delivery from scratch seems extremely low. I was going to say spitballers but even they were grandfathered in.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:00
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I feel like Capps' and Walden's deliveries should be grandfathered in. Brutal to expect them to alter their mechanics several years into their big league careers.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:12
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NiceGuy posted:God I hated the loving Price deal when it was signed and I hate it even more now. Thank christ we finally blew our prospect load on another frontline pitcher in Sale or we'd be turbofucked right out of the gate. And truth be told it's not looking rosy after Sale and Porcello anyway. On the other hand if there is a team that can support a ridiculously bad SP contract its probably the red sox. You just had several world series wins in the past 10 years, and right now you have one of the best cores of young, cost controlled position players in the game.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:25
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:rule changes for 2017: Could the way the Cards often mow the Arch onto the grass be considered a marker on the field? If so, gently caress that.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:33
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SlumPrince posted:Could the way the Cards often mow the Arch onto the grass be considered a marker on the field? If so, gently caress that. I highly doubt they would go that far. It would also apply to a lot of other teams too if that was the case. It's really just to stop blatant cases.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:35
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Popete posted:I highly doubt they would go that far. It would also apply to a lot of other teams too if that was the case. I hope so, but the wording of it seems vague enough that it could be interpreted as any team with a unique field feature is cheating (what if there are markers within the Cubs' ivy signaling player where to stand!). A rule like that seems incredibly open to interpretation.
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patonthebach posted:On the other hand if there is a team that can support a ridiculously bad SP contract its probably the red sox. You just had several world series wins in the past 10 years, and right now you have one of the best cores of young, cost controlled position players in the game. Oh to be sure, my bitching is very much relative. I still like the team a lot, I'm just not 100% sold on both Porcello and Sale putting up ~3.00 ERAs (Porcello due to regression, Sale due to whatever hocus pocus seems to cause disappointing first years in Boston) and if any of our young position players take a step back they're really going to need them to be something like that. I have this weird fear that Pomeranz's arm could fall off any day now too so I'm anxious, but not overly dismayed or anything.
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Popete posted:I highly doubt they would go that far. It would also apply to a lot of other teams too if that was the case. Yeah. Just about everybody kicks some divots into the outfield grass while they're out there and if it's too loose a rule your going to end up penalizing guys who do it when they're bored along with guys who have a divot for every guy in the batting order.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:55
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Why the gently caress are they banning outfield markers? Who cares. Is it because positioning players cuts down on offense?
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Julio Cruz posted:I will laugh so hard if it turns out the Padres posting this tweet inadvertently got one of their own players' deliveries outlawed: To be fair, everyone has known about his weird delivery since he got traded to the Marlins.
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Sure they've known about it, but having his own team post how illegal it is in graphic detail is an impressive move on their part.
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