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Inquisition is exactly as bad as some people say it is. But it's also okay in spots. I'm glad I played something like the Orlais palace ball with its enormous MMO setting and stilted quest design before playing W3. The sequence was enjoyable as a break from wandering around empty zones killing things for crafting parts but holy poo poo it gets blown out of the water by a team that can actually do dialog and animation. IMO W3 makes DA:I look like DE:MD.
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Hedrigall posted:Where did you find this home movie footage of me irl I'm just joshin' ya, Heddy. Of course we can be friends. 
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I liked both DA:I and W3 also. They both do different things well. Witcher 3 is the easily stronger of the two by far, but DA:I can be great too for the more lizard brain skinner boxy stuff. It's got entertaining yet casual party combat, and it's really good for bringing out the feeling you get with certain RPGs where the high level gameplay loop is going to a new area, loading up your quest log, then zipping around doing stuff that constantly checks off boxes on your big to do list until you get done with all of it and you feel good about it in the same way you feel good about looking at your previously messy house after a deep cleaning. Like was said above though, I'm glad I played DA:I before W3.
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GreatGreen posted:I liked both DA:I and W3 also. They both do different things well. I had a real tough time getting into DAInq's combat. The top down aspects felt like more of a simple camera shift more than an actual gameplay shift into top down mode. The normal 3rd person combat never felt all that interesting. I really enjoyed DA One's combat (with appropriate caveats/acknowledgements that it was the first iteration of it's type) and felt like they kinda fudged things when they went to DAInq. There was a lot less to control, and 3rd person combat felt a lot more MMO-ey - of the 'stand here and push a button variety. It felt very static. And the dodge in the game seemed more like a throwback to 90's circle strafing more than a useful dodge tool.
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I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. Fundamentally though they're such different game systems that I don't see the point in making linear comparisons between them. They're very different games with some minor similarities of genre
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precision posted:I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. It's brought up because it's really the only competition insofar as modern AAA Fantasy cinematic high story western rpgs go. I really can't think of another at the moment.
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precision posted:does some things very poorly. such as
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precision posted:I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. It's real easy to do a quick shitpost comparing these two games because Witcher 3, and to a lesser extent Dragon Age: Inquisition, happened.
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MadBimber posted:such as you can't ditch Triss and Yennerfer and go live happily ever after with Shani
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CharlestonJew posted:you can't ditch Triss and Yennerfer and go live happily ever after with Shani You CAN ditch Triss and Yen, though. And Shani's too good for Geralt.
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MadBimber posted:such as crafting was kind of a pain, and also important if you wanted the witcher gear or needed potions
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Don't compare games in my ME3 thread!!!!!!
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CharlestonJew posted:you can't ditch Triss and Yennerfer and go live happily ever after with Shani lol if your geralt wasn't volcel
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precision posted:I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. I agree, there's no such thing as good and nothing can be compared to anything. Assigning value to anything is impossible and nothing can be objectively bad. Remember this when ME:A comes out because it'll be really useful.
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complaints about witcher so far are: mild irritation, something only some sperg who romances videogame characters cares about. i rest my case. canceled preorder, buying witcher 3 for the 3rd time
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jk i wont cancel my preorder because gently caress that tea guy who keeps coming to this thread to flagellate himself
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precision posted:I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. I have a lot of problems with the Witcher as a series and this post still blows. "Meaning and value are assigned rather than inherent who knew? Therefore, all games are of equivalent value~" You almost certainly didn't mean to say that (or maybe I'm giving you too much credit) but that IS what you said in effect so you still deserved to get paddled by the entire thread while we chant weeaboo.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I have a lot of problems with the Witcher as a series and this post still blows. Listen guys, the truth is always in the middle if you are any sort of intellectual. Something CAN'T be better than something else, I remember reading about that in philo 101. I'm keeping my Ryder's name the stock version, so the other characters actually say it instead of just saying "Ryder" all the time. 
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Who is poo poo Ryder?
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Drifter posted:Listen guys, the truth is always in the middle if you are any sort of intellectual. Something CAN'T be better than something else, I remember reading about that in philo 101. If this game doesn't let me make at least one "Ryder? Hardly knew 'er!" joke then it belongs in the garbage.
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The Lone Badger posted:Who is poo poo Ryder?  (Actual Size)
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MadBimber posted:such as It's distinctly someone else's power-fantasy, not mine. There's also the 'awesome fighter and awesome chemist and awesome lover and awesome smart!' bullshit that feels like it was written by a six year-old talking about Batman.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I have a lot of problems with the Witcher as a series and this post still blows. All I meant to say as it relates to W3 vs. Inquisition is that they are in the same stylistic genre but as actual games are so different that comparing them is more useless than useful. It would be like, but not as extreme as, say, comparing the original Deus Ex to Enter the Matrix.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:
please don't be misleading, this Ryder is clearly way oversized
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jfood posted:It's distinctly someone else's power-fantasy, not mine. There's also the 'awesome fighter and awesome chemist and awesome lover and awesome smart!' bullshit that feels like it was written by a six year-old talking about Batman. But enough about poo poo Ryder...
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The Lone Badger posted:Who is poo poo Ryder? Ask not on whom Ryder shits; he shits on thee.
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jfood posted:It's distinctly someone else's power-fantasy, not mine. There's also the 'awesome fighter and awesome chemist and awesome lover and awesome smart!' bullshit that feels like it was written by a six year-old talking about Batman. Sounds like Shepard and every other RPG mc
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It's actually worth bringing The Witcher into these discussions just by virtue of how cool and funny it is that the contemporary benchmark for decent RPGs has been set by a couple hundred Polish guys with less than $50 million spent on production- a bar that many American developers, each with several times the staff and budget, has yet to clear.
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The modern RPG Genres are: - Bethesda Game - Bioware Game - We miss Black Isle - Diablo & Friends - YOU DIED - MMO - MMO (Single Player) - Anime Movie with Fights I don't know how to categorize Deus Ex or The Witcher
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Lumpy the Cook posted:It's actually worth bringing The Witcher into these discussions just by virtue of how cool and funny it is that the contemporary benchmark for decent RPGs has been set by a couple hundred Polish guys with less than $50 million spent on production- a bar that many American developers, each with several times the staff and budget, has yet to clear.
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doingitwrong posted:The modern RPG Genres are: You forgot Destiny
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https://twitter.com/gamblemike/status/837155218160828418 I'm the guy preloading via my tethered 4G phone with limited data.
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doingitwrong posted:The modern RPG Genres are: -obsidian (canceled)
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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:You forgot Destiny MMO (Single Player) I did forget - SystemShock Through Time (which is maybe what Deus Ex goes under)
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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:You forgot Destiny - YOU DIED or maybe YOU'RE TEABAGGED
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doingitwrong posted:- We miss Black Isle It would be fun and interesting if a AAA developer basically gave the go-ahead to make a game as big as DA or ME but with PoE style combat. Never gonna happen though, especially since the PS4 version of Wasteland 2 probably sold about 20 total copies.
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doingitwrong posted:The modern RPG Genres are: -Far Cry style FPS-RPGs -Cell Phone Roguelikes
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precision posted:I just wish people would shut up about Witcher 3 on here. It gets brought up more than Dark Souls and never in a funny way, it's all just "wow that game was the best thing ever". Witcher 3 does a lot of things right, does some things very poorly. But to presuppose it's good is just weird. It doesn't have objectively good plot, at all. There's no such thing. The only thing you can say is that there's a lot to it, so if you like it, hurray! But you can also say that about Inquisition. Relax mate. It's just people using a good game as an example of what Bioware might one day be capable of producing.
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