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Guinness posted:The Panamera is not rear-engined, it is front-engined. 
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kimcicle posted:Evoque: Luxury Small The Disco replaced the LR4 but drat, I guess you're right. Thought the Sport and the RR were one segment size down and that the Land Rovers would encroach on the Range Rovers but I suppose they're two different demographics.
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The new discovery replaces the lr4. The LR4 was always called the discovery in other markets, there was just one car in that segment.
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Mar 2, 2017 22:32
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Throatwarbler posted:The new discovery replaces the lr4. The LR4 was always called the discovery in other markets, there was just one car in that segment. I stand corrected on the Discovery replacing the LR4, but Land Rover is just trying to cover all their bases in the luxury SUV segment and now should have all of their bases covered.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:05
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I know Porsche was lambasted for making 4 wheel drives and the Panamera but how long do you reckon before you can get a land rover station wagon? A Range Rover sedan?
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Aargh posted:I know Porsche was lambasted for making 4 wheel drives and the Panamera but how long do you reckon before you can get a land rover station wagon? A Range Rover sedan? Those are called jaguars.
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travisray2004 posted:poo poo, we talked about BMW saturating a market. How many models does Land Rover now have? I dunno, ask jeep how they're doing it.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:I dunno, ask jeep how they're doing it. If i had 3 guesses, my first 2 would be cutting corners.
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Mar 3, 2017 08:45
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Powershift posted:Those are called jaguars. Yup. And they're hot as gently caress, especially when next to some melted candle Porsche abortion. 
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Mar 3, 2017 12:21
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BloodBag posted:Yup. And they're hot as gently caress, especially when next to some melted candle Porsche abortion. The Porsche looks nice, but the Jag is downright sexy.
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Mar 3, 2017 13:00
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As soon as I need all those seats the Panamera is my family car. I don't know what it is but I keep on liking it more and more every generation.
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Mar 3, 2017 13:16
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davebo posted:I'm sorry I took you on that road, I didn't remember all those speed bumps! Oh, it's not your fault, there are speed bumps in our neighborhood too. It still amazes me how fussy that system is.
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Mar 3, 2017 13:27
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Throatwarbler posted:The new discovery replaces the lr4. The LR4 was always called the discovery in other markets, there was just one car in that segment. yep,
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Residency Evil posted:As soon as I need all those seats the Panamera is my family car. I don't know what it is but I keep on liking it more and more every generation. No poo poo. At first I liked the idea but the Panamera but now it's exactly what I think it should have been all along.
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Mar 3, 2017 14:39
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Residency Evil posted:As soon as I need all those seats the Panamera is my family car. I don't know what it is but I keep on liking it more and more every generation. I love how that (and the Jag) look, but man, despite having a pretty healthy household income I just don't see myself plunking down anywhere near $96k for a 330HP wagon, let alone $154k for pretty much any car, and that's before Porsche's notoriously overpriced options. (I also don't see myself buying any more cars before building a suitable garage, so there's that investment, too.)
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I love how that (and the Jag) look, but man, despite having a pretty healthy household income I just don't see myself plunking down anywhere near $96k for a 330HP wagon, let alone $154k for pretty much any car, and that's before Porsche's notoriously overpriced options. (I also don't see myself buying any more cars before building a suitable garage, so there's that investment, too.) Oh I'm not crazy enough to buy one new. 2 years used though,  I hear you on the options though. My Cayman S stickered in the low 80s, picked it up in the mid 50s last fall with 13k miles on it, just under 2 years old. That's $2/mile. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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The first gen Panamera is going to be the 996 of full size sedans. People on the forums will be complaining about the awful tailights for years. You'll be able to pick up a turbo for $18k in a year or so and then hold it for another 5 until it becomes a classic. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 16:10
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Residency Evil posted:Oh I'm not crazy enough to buy one new. 2 years used though, Quick Carmax search, it's like still fifty grand for a base 2014 Panamera with 40k miles. I'll just drive yours so it doesn't just sit in a garage gathering dust while you walk to work.
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Mar 3, 2017 16:11
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Quick Carmax search, it's like still fifty grand for a base 2014 Panamera with 40k miles. I'll just drive yours so it doesn't just sit in a garage gathering dust while you walk to work. I wonder how long i'll hold on to it for this reason. 
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Mar 3, 2017 16:49
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A colleague had a Panamera S that I drove and I could not get over how loving boring it was to drive.
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Mar 3, 2017 16:51
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Residency Evil posted:I wonder how long i'll hold on to it for this reason. Being able to walk to work is the best, I totally miss that about my time in Pittsburgh (even when it was twenty minutes in pre-windchill single-digit weather). Ain't nobody smart walking to my place of work, though.
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Mar 3, 2017 17:20
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I think the V90 looks better than the Porsche and the Jag.
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Mar 3, 2017 18:56
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BloodBag posted:Yup. And they're hot as gently caress, especially when next to some melted candle Porsche abortion. New-era Jaguars are hideously generic looking. Cover the badge and it might as well be a Toyota. The Volvo V90 is a high-iq looking car though. Can't get enough of that.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:04
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Saddamnit posted:I think the V90 looks better than the Porsche and the Jag. I agree with this man. The V90 is pure sex.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:08
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Can they make a V90 for poors? I would buy that in an instant.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:18
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TopherCStone posted:New-era Jaguars are hideously generic looking. Cover the badge and it might as well be a Toyota. I'd agree with you if Toyota hadn't started subscribing to the design school of pointless creases everywhere and headlights so large they're almost comical. There's something to be said for understatement these days when it comes to car design and Jaguar are one of very few doing it.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:20
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Michael Scott posted:Can they make a V90 for poors? I would buy that in an instant. They're working on a V-smaller-than-90.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:25
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TopherCStone posted:New-era Jaguars are hideously generic looking. Cover the badge and it might as well be a Toyota. Cover the badge and it's a Mazda 6
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Mar 3, 2017 19:31
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Toyota's new design direction starting with the Prius is great, it's actually visually distinct in a sea of same-y looking poo poo. People whine about it because it's different, but that's the point. The Prius, and soon Camry, look like future cars and make everything around them look old. They also aren't aimed at Luddite car nerds.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:They're working on a V-smaller-than-90.
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Wheeee posted:Toyota's new design direction starting with the Prius is great, it's actually visually distinct in a sea of same-y looking poo poo. The i8 looks like a future car. The new Prius just looks like someone got their hands on photoshop for the first time and went bugfuck with the pinch and morph tools.
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Mar 3, 2017 20:20
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Terrible Robot posted:The i8 looks like a future car. The new Prius just looks like someone got their hands on photoshop for the first time and went bugfuck with the pinch and morph tools. Yeah, I agree. I'm all in favor of daring car designs but the Prius doesn't really resolve. Actually, I think the back looks fairly cool, but the front... woof.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Quick Carmax search, it's like still fifty grand for a base 2014 Panamera with 40k miles. I'll just drive yours so it doesn't just sit in a garage gathering dust while you walk to work. Yeah, should at least get a turbo if you're going to pay that much. http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/970743-panamera-turbo-159k-msrp-mint-56500-firm.html
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Wheeee posted:Toyota's new design direction starting with the Prius is great, it's actually visually distinct in a sea of same-y looking poo poo. To echo the others the Prius looks bad to me, where as the Lexus was questionable but is starting to grow on me. Perhaps the Prius is the same I don't know, but it certainly feels like it's going to look dated rather than classic when time marches on.
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book posted:Yeah, should at least get a turbo if you're going to pay that much. That car has sat on there for months. There's a reason most cars are boring colors.
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Terrible Robot posted:The i8 looks like a future car. The new Prius just looks like someone got their hands on photoshop for the first time and went bugfuck with the pinch and morph tools. This is 100% accurate except that I don't think future cars will all look like they're trying to poo poo out a Porsche. 
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davebo posted:This is 100% accurate except that I don't think future cars will all look like they're trying to poo poo out a Porsche. Cannot be unseen.
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Mar 3, 2017 21:12
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BloodBag posted:Cannot be unseen. Someone goat.se this with transformer arms.
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Wheeee posted:Toyota's new design direction starting with the Prius is great, it's actually visually distinct in a sea of same-y looking poo poo.
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ilkhan posted:The new Prius has exactly 0 visual benefits to anybody. Its ugly on par with the Aztek and Avalanche and Crossfire. Poster 'Wheeee''s post history outs him as a known Toyota fanboy. Of course the Prius looks great to him. I wouldn't expect anything different.
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