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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Today a pretty fobby Chinese woman was eating what appeared to be some sort of pickled corn (or wildly undercooked) on the cob on a packed NYC train. Bits of which fell into a Russia woman who cursed at her in Russian. Later on the Chinese woman picked her nose and rubbed her fingers so the goop would fall off (onto the Russian woman). Of course, I just stared maniacally at it the whole time wishing I could get over being a colossal pussy and take a picture of it all.

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The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
last night my wife, son and i were leaving a restaurant in one of the nicest malls in the city and a woman and a man were holding up a man in the middle who had projectile vomited all over the mall floor. it was like 8:15 and it reeked of baijiu, i took out my phone to take a picture and my wife immediately was like "put your phone away". she is a much better person than i am

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Glenn Quebec posted:

Today a pretty fobby Chinese woman was eating what appeared to be some sort of pickled corn (or wildly undercooked) on the cob on a packed NYC train. Bits of which fell into a Russia woman who cursed at her in Russian. Later on the Chinese woman picked her nose and rubbed her fingers so the goop would fall off (onto the Russian woman). Of course, I just stared maniacally at it the whole time wishing I could get over being a colossal pussy and take a picture of it all.

can you undercook corn? lots of people enjoy raw corn

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Fauxtool posted:

can you undercook corn? lots of people enjoy raw corn

Well i mean you could cook the shoots before the corn has even begun to bud, I guess.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I don't know the parameters of corn on the cob cookery but it def looked off. Kind of translucent like it had been overly brined

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

The Great Autismo! posted:

last night my wife, son and i were leaving a restaurant in one of the nicest malls in the city and a woman and a man were holding up a man in the middle who had projectile vomited all over the mall floor. it was like 8:15 and it reeked of baijiu, i took out my phone to take a picture and my wife immediately was like "put your phone away". she is a much better person than i am

Aaaaand ofc you don't post all your good pics.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:
Yesterday something incredibly stupid happened!

At the beginning of the year, the English guy who works with the lower grades at my primary warned me "this place is rather disorganised, meetings will be called and then not happen, administration will tell you one thing but another will happen."

Up until now that has been true but only in a mild sense.

Yesterday the school's replacement financial officer met with me to talk about my salary. I turned down a job with a semiprivate school that paid 2K more a month because I felt I could make a bigger difference in the public system (IDIOT IDEALIST ALERT), plus I have total freedom to plan and implement a curriculum as I see fit. Why, just last week the principal met with me to say how much they liked my work and hope I recontract! Maybe I'll get a miniscule pay rise!

I sat down next to the officer as she brought up a chart detailing all the years I have taught in Hong Kong. "This is when you started teaching ... and here is when you reached the salary scale cap," she said, explaining that as far as the Education Bureau is concerned, if you are only teaching with a degree, your salary is capped at Point 19. I have a master's in education but that's "just a degree" ...

"And here is where you got your PGDE," she continued. The Post Graduate Diploma in Education is the basic certificate needed to register as a teacher in Hong Kong. I did the course because it's a requirement but holy poo poo is it ever useless, with pedagogy instruction that hasn't been updated since the eighties, and no material on how to actually manage a classroom. "So, you should actually be at Salary Point 21, not 22. So next month your salary will be reduced by 1500 a month, plus a one-time repayment of 11000 for the past six months you were overpaid."

I'm not panicking because I always save a portion of my salary each month for rainy days, so I can take the hit. But I wonder about the legality of this; their contract says I'm at Point 22 but the government, which funds the school, is saying "after examining the records you are overpaying this guy, stop it and get the money back".

It's too bad as I had finally gotten used to the school and what can and cannot be done in a local classroom, and was thinking that a modest pay rise next year would make me financially secure enough. But with this, I think it's time to look for a new job. I'm even thinking about getting out of teaching (what would I do though lol).

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

That seems insane that they can just claw back the money.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
You should leave Asia and find a real job.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
surprising nobody who knows anything about china, the great wall was a giant turd and box office bomb

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
if we make a movie about a white guy hearing that china is really awesome and going there and finding it is even awesomer than he thought it would be in his wildest dreams, people will love china irl

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
a great wall movie sounds v cool. i would totally go see a movie about the great wall. especially if it was a period piece about building it, or like mongolia attacking it. heck, if you have to throw a whitey or two in there, that's fine.

but matt damon defends the great wall from dragons just sounds like a horrifically dumb idea for a movie and it is unsurprising that it bombed

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Baronjutter posted:

That seems insane that they can just claw back the money.

A few thread back there was an article about people working as tellers in the Bank of China who had to pay money when people closed accounts/didn't open enough new accounts this month. Something like that. Worker's rights are garbage in most places here. In both places working in Taiwan it was written in my contract that if I leave early/get fired early then I would have to pay back the "training fee" which is something like 2500 USD. Unenforceable if you leave, but if you are staying at a place you like and they want money...I have no idea how it would work.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

GoutPatrol posted:

A few thread back there was an article about people working as tellers in the Bank of China who had to pay money when people closed accounts/didn't open enough new accounts this month. Something like that. Worker's rights are garbage in most places here. In both places working in Taiwan it was written in my contract that if I leave early/get fired early then I would have to pay back the "training fee" which is something like 2500 USD. Unenforceable if you leave, but if you are staying at a place you like and they want money...I have no idea how it would work.

"I'm leaving the city now, here's my forwarding address, goodbye."

*don't move, open a new bank account*

"No, I'm not GoatPatrol, I'm from his province in America and he rented his apartment to me, do you think we all look the same?"

Vv: yeah my advice is almost universally terrible so don't take it.

Outrail fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Mar 3, 2017

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Imperialist Dog posted:

Yesterday something incredibly stupid happened!

At the beginning of the year, the English guy who works with the lower grades at my primary warned me "this place is rather disorganised, meetings will be called and then not happen, administration will tell you one thing but another will happen."

Up until now that has been true but only in a mild sense.

Yesterday the school's replacement financial officer met with me to talk about my salary. I turned down a job with a semiprivate school that paid 2K more a month because I felt I could make a bigger difference in the public system (IDIOT IDEALIST ALERT), plus I have total freedom to plan and implement a curriculum as I see fit. Why, just last week the principal met with me to say how much they liked my work and hope I recontract! Maybe I'll get a miniscule pay rise!

I sat down next to the officer as she brought up a chart detailing all the years I have taught in Hong Kong. "This is when you started teaching ... and here is when you reached the salary scale cap," she said, explaining that as far as the Education Bureau is concerned, if you are only teaching with a degree, your salary is capped at Point 19. I have a master's in education but that's "just a degree" ...

"And here is where you got your PGDE," she continued. The Post Graduate Diploma in Education is the basic certificate needed to register as a teacher in Hong Kong. I did the course because it's a requirement but holy poo poo is it ever useless, with pedagogy instruction that hasn't been updated since the eighties, and no material on how to actually manage a classroom. "So, you should actually be at Salary Point 21, not 22. So next month your salary will be reduced by 1500 a month, plus a one-time repayment of 11000 for the past six months you were overpaid."

I'm not panicking because I always save a portion of my salary each month for rainy days, so I can take the hit. But I wonder about the legality of this; their contract says I'm at Point 22 but the government, which funds the school, is saying "after examining the records you are overpaying this guy, stop it and get the money back".

It's too bad as I had finally gotten used to the school and what can and cannot be done in a local classroom, and was thinking that a modest pay rise next year would make me financially secure enough. But with this, I think it's time to look for a new job. I'm even thinking about getting out of teaching (what would I do though lol).
The advice is always the same: Talk to a lawyer.

Don't talk to goons, don't talk to friends or your boss or whatever. Talk to a barrister and see if this is legal or not. If it's not, then simply challenging it will probably be enough so that at least you won't have to pay to be fired...

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
It reminds me of one of my previous jobs at a chinese-run company with mostly chinese employees that I've told in one of these threads before. A bunch of employees were moved into newly renovated office space and people immediately started getting headaches and nausea. I was getting headaches and vertigo that would stop the moment I left our part of the building. From following our noses we quickly realized that the problem was our new cubicle wall material which was venting huge amounts of formaldehyde in the enclosed space (proven with a testing kit purchased from taobao.

A British coworker had a meeting with our manager about it (who has her own office across the building), and her response was "if you don't like it, you can leave"

But after another week or two of complaining they replaced our cubicles with old moldy ones (just our team) and the headaches stopped

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


If it's like UK law (probably is) then it comes down to who your contract is with. If your contract is with the EDB, I don't kniw, they're the government and will do as they please here. If it's with the school, it's their mistake, and running over budget on salary is something they have to explain to the EDB, not something you have to explain. Also if it's like UK law, and your contract says monthly not annual amounts, then they can't claim money back or dock your pay.

I thi.k it's important to show you've tried to deal with the school before taking legal action (you don't have to roll over or compromise, just say you agreed to the original contract, and if the terma no longer apply then you'll quit without notice and good luck getting another teacher.

But I'm not a lawyer and as a goon I give bad advice. Don't listen to me, speak to a lawyer, but imo you owe them jack poo poo and if they break the contract you can sue the bastards, especially since teaching has seasonal hiring cycles so lost pay opportunity feom them breaking contract should be easy to argur

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Outrail posted:

Haier, I know this sounds dumb but I can't believe you can attract a crowd by eating lunch. Next time you're out could you take a video or pictures of the idiots watching the idiot eating his food?

It's one of those things that's really hard to imagine until you live here. That's something I've noticed in the thread, a lot of you guys are disbelieving of stuff and I get why you would be but the same things don't strike me as even remotely unreasonable anymore.

One of the nicest things about being in even fairly small city Japan was nobody gives a gently caress about whitey. I did get stared at by a Chinese person in Tokyo once.

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

Deceitful Penguin posted:

The advice is always the same: Talk to a lawyer.

Don't talk to goons, don't talk to friends or your boss or whatever. Talk to a barrister and see if this is legal or not. If it's not, then simply challenging it will probably be enough so that at least you won't have to pay to be fired...

Yeah try going through the salary assessment guide for public school teachers in HK. Considering that level of complexity, it's definitely worth getting someone involved from the teacher's union.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Imperialist Dog posted:

Yesterday something incredibly stupid happened!

At the beginning of the year, the English guy who works with the lower grades at my primary warned me "this place is rather disorganised, meetings will be called and then not happen, administration will tell you one thing but another will happen."

Up until now that has been true but only in a mild sense.

Yesterday the school's replacement financial officer met with me to talk about my salary. I turned down a job with a semiprivate school that paid 2K more a month because I felt I could make a bigger difference in the public system (IDIOT IDEALIST ALERT), plus I have total freedom to plan and implement a curriculum as I see fit. Why, just last week the principal met with me to say how much they liked my work and hope I recontract! Maybe I'll get a miniscule pay rise!

I sat down next to the officer as she brought up a chart detailing all the years I have taught in Hong Kong. "This is when you started teaching ... and here is when you reached the salary scale cap," she said, explaining that as far as the Education Bureau is concerned, if you are only teaching with a degree, your salary is capped at Point 19. I have a master's in education but that's "just a degree" ...

"And here is where you got your PGDE," she continued. The Post Graduate Diploma in Education is the basic certificate needed to register as a teacher in Hong Kong. I did the course because it's a requirement but holy poo poo is it ever useless, with pedagogy instruction that hasn't been updated since the eighties, and no material on how to actually manage a classroom. "So, you should actually be at Salary Point 21, not 22. So next month your salary will be reduced by 1500 a month, plus a one-time repayment of 11000 for the past six months you were overpaid."

I'm not panicking because I always save a portion of my salary each month for rainy days, so I can take the hit. But I wonder about the legality of this; their contract says I'm at Point 22 but the government, which funds the school, is saying "after examining the records you are overpaying this guy, stop it and get the money back".

It's too bad as I had finally gotten used to the school and what can and cannot be done in a local classroom, and was thinking that a modest pay rise next year would make me financially secure enough. But with this, I think it's time to look for a new job. I'm even thinking about getting out of teaching (what would I do though lol).

Lawyer up. But let them know first that you're going to get a lawyer. Act smiley and do your job as well as ever, and just tell them, "I'm sorry, but I'm going to have my lawyer look into this first." It might intimidate them into backing down. Whatever you do, don't get angry and don't refuse to work. Just let them know in polite terms that this is a violation of your contract and that you won't be returning the funds until you have a lawyer look at it, and then give them the number of your attorney (or any local organization that deals with the rights of foreign workers).

This is a common scam by employers in Korea; dunno about here.

e: This is NOT disorganization. This is a scam disguised as incompetence. They're over budget somewhere else and are trying to trick you into giving up cash and bankrolling the principal's golf games or some equally inane bullshit. Sorry, I fell for this exact trick in Korea and I'll be hosed if I don't try to stop it from happening elsewhere.

Fleta Mcgurn fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 3, 2017

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Lawyer up. But let them know first that you're going to get a lawyer. Act smiley and do your job as well as ever, and just tell them, "I'm sorry, but I'm going to have my lawyer look into this first." It might intimidate them into backing down. Whatever you do, don't get angry and don't refuse to work. Just let them know in polite terms that this is a violation of your contract and that you won't be returning the funds until you have a lawyer look at it, and then give them the number of your attorney (or any local organization that deals with the rights of foreign workers).

This is a common scam by employers in Korea; dunno about here.

e: This is NOT disorganization. This is a scam disguised as incompetence. They're over budget somewhere else and are trying to trick you into giving up cash and bankrolling the principal's golf games or some equally inane bullshit. Sorry, I fell for this exact trick in Korea and I'll be hosed if I don't try to stop it from happening elsewhere.
Yeah, listen to this lady, her advice is actually good.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
a bbc crew got attacked, their cameras smashed, and were forced to sign a confession by the government

the people they were there to interview have disappeared off the face of the earth

might be a good time for goons to review their exit plans

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Flyball posted:

What happens when they see someone like this?



Do their eyes pop out of their head like a Warner Bros. cartoon character?

Please don't doxx me thanks

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Grand Fromage posted:

I have done this sort of thing more than once.

I constantly pretend I don't speak English when some rear end in a top hat is screaming HALOU in my face but I don't count that.

Pretending you don't speak English is a good way to get away from Nigerians in Roppongi. They know you're full of poo poo but don't want to do the work of getting you to break the facade AND THEN convince you to gently caress their slaves hookers.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Grand Fromage posted:

It's one of those things that's really hard to imagine until you live here. That's something I've noticed in the thread, a lot of you guys are disbelieving of stuff and I get why you would be but the same things don't strike me as even remotely unreasonable anymore.
This + all of the crazy women stories = Totally standard fare for living in China. Non-China-havers need to understand this.

If I want to compare:
They stare a lot in the village-y parts of India, but there's none of the weirdness and passive-aggression associated with it that I feel in China. It's not the "WOW, LOOK AT THIS ANIMAL DOING PEOPLE THINGS, HAW HAW" like redneck Chinese tend to exhibit when staring or trying to interact. Unlike China, nobody makes unprovoked insults or obnoxious comments just because a foreigner exists in their vision. None of that Buzzcut faux-alpha bullshit. When people stare at me in India or watch me do something, it's usually because they are curious or are too shy to practice the English they've been learning since primary school.
They do take a hell of a lot of photos without asking, but if you acknowledge them they will all want selfies with their arms around the white guy and will thank you and ask about you or invite you to their house for a meal. My dad said he used to take people up on those offers because he wanted to see what it was like, and every single time they'd bring in a sister or daughter and try to strike a marriage deal.

If you really want a good Asia place for nobody giving the slightest gently caress about foreigners (except mutual dislike of Chinese), Thailand is great.

Random nice people story:
One of my best friends in India became that way because my landlord told me I could buy milk from their small dairy farm. We show up and I shake hands, he sells me milk. I thought the quality was good, so I go back the next day to buy more. He'd never spoken to a white person before and was extremely shy, but curious. His mom's head was popping up from the window. They had no idea what to expect.
I went back again the next day and they asked me to sit on the patio. A few minutes later they came back with hot milk tea and biscuits and we talked for two hours. From that point we became best friends and hung out like five nights a week and would go ride motorcycles or bicycles.

Fojar38 posted:

a bbc crew got attacked, their cameras smashed, and were forced to sign a confession by the government

the people they were there to interview have disappeared off the face of the earth

might be a good time for goons to review their exit plans
Journalists always get the bad end of the stick here. The gov don't are about us non-journos as much.
I do leave in summer to India and may never return to China. G-d Bless This Mess.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Its important to remember perspective.

The Chinese may think they are hot poo poo but they are backwards ignorant overgrown children, and poor, under an oppressive government, in a poisoned land, and fodder for mockery by literally everyone else in the world. You can go home, but they are stuck there.

That being the case, I never held any of their goofy poo poo against them, it's not their fault, and I was their guest in their country anyway.

If you're a really self absorbed person and get offended easily, China is not for you. But if you don't take poo poo too personally you can have a fun and rewarding adventure there.

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Mar 3, 2017

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Haier posted:

I do leave in summer to India and may never return to China. G-d Bless This Mess.

are you just addicted to street making GBS threads or what?
are there enough furry five heads in india to keep you satisfied?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Let us English posted:

Pretending you don't speak English is a good way to get away from Nigerians in Roppongi. They know you're full of poo poo but don't want to do the work of getting you to break the facade AND THEN convince you to gently caress their slaves hookers.

I did it with the annoying street touts in Itaewon but that's the only place where I'd respond in German or Russian and a non-trivial amount of times the dude spoke the language and I just had to move on. Like the time I tried to get an evangelist to leave me alone by claiming to be a Calvinist and he knew what that was and started arguing with me about it.

Once I responded in Russian in Itaewon (I remember like five sentences from freshman year Russian class, including "I don't speak English") and the guy just looked at me and said "You ain't loving Russian" and I appreciated it.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Grand Fromage posted:

It's one of those things that's really hard to imagine until you live here. That's something I've noticed in the thread, a lot of you guys are disbelieving of stuff and I get why you would be but the same things don't strike me as even remotely unreasonable anymore.

One of the nicest things about being in even fairly small city Japan was nobody gives a gently caress about whitey. I did get stared at by a Chinese person in Tokyo once.

This is something I noticed when I went back last summer. People would ask about China and then they wouldn't believe my description because it didn't match the "China is the future" narrative they'd bought into. Canadians in particular were awful about this.

"How can an American teach Physics in China? They're so much better at math."

gently caress Canadians.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


hakimashou posted:

That being the case, I never held any of their goofy poo poo against them, it's not their fault, and I was their guest in their country anyway.

I try not to with the really old people, it's got to be loving weird to grow up your entire life living in a pile of dirt and being taught white people are literally Satan and will eat your babies and now you're in a technological city with honkeys freely walking around. Most of them probably barely went to school and know nothing at all about the world outside their immediate surroundings. And then small children are idiots everywhere so whatever, not their fault either. They still irritate me but I suppress the irritation.

But when it's someone in say the ~12-50 year old range they can gently caress right off.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Mar 3, 2017

KillingPablo
Apr 5, 2003

WHOO! I am DEFINITELY not afraid of the fucking POLICE right now!

Fojar38 posted:

a bbc crew got attacked, their cameras smashed, and were forced to sign a confession by the government

the people they were there to interview have disappeared off the face of the earth

might be a good time for goons to review their exit plans

This isn't really anything new unfortunately, when it comes to petitioners. The term 黑监狱 refers to the black prisons that provincial officials set up to hold abducted petitioners or anyone who might testify against them. And journalists getting roughed up when investigating sensitive topics like Tibet, Xinjiang, or corruption isn't uncommon either.

I love the fact that China continues to force people to sign confessions and testify against themselves, as a holdover from the "confessions" people had to give during the Cultural Revolution. It's the ultimate expression of face-saving culture, where you can beat someone up, trash their things, hold them under threat of further violence, and force them to "admit" that they were wrong and at fault.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Let us English posted:

This is something I noticed when I went back last summer. People would ask about China and then they wouldn't believe my description because it didn't match the "China is the future" narrative they'd bought into. Canadians in particular were awful about this.

"How can an American teach Physics in China? They're so much better at math."

gently caress Canadians.

I think sometimes foreign people will try to throw shade or have some passive-aggressive fantasy about the US being eclipsed by China, but not the ones who have actually been to China.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Grand Fromage posted:

I try not to with the really old people, it's got to be loving weird to grow up your entire life living in a pile of dirt and being taught white people are literally Satan and will eat your babies and now you're in a technological city with honkeys freely walking around. Most of them probably barely went to school and know nothing at all about the world outside their immediate surroundings. And then small children are idiots everywhere so whatever, not their fault either. They still irritate me but I suppress the irritation.

But when it's someone in say the ~12-50 year old range they can gently caress right off.

I dunno, its its own world, how are they gonna know any better? Not enough Chinese go live overseas and then come home to make a dent in how they think about things.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


hakimashou posted:

I dunno, its its own world, how are they gonna know any better? Not enough Chinese go live overseas and then come home to make a dent in how they think about things.

They have access to the internet and TV and have gone to school and stuff. There's no excuse for such a pathological level of ignorance in the generations that have had these opportunities. No 40 year old in China should be floored by the concept that someone who isn't Chinese exists.

And before the whatabout post yes this happens other places but China is the topic here.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Grand Fromage posted:

They have access to the internet and TV and have gone to school and stuff. There's no excuse for such a pathological level of ignorance in the generations that have had these opportunities. No 40 year old in China should be floored by the concept that someone who isn't Chinese exists.

And before the whatabout post yes this happens other places but China is the topic here.

The chinese like to bandy around their 5000 years of history but they are serious. Not a lot has changed in all those years compared to other places, and they like it that way and are proud of it.

Anyway, they have access to the censored internet, and to chinese TV and dvds from stores and poo poo. But having access to tv shows and movies isnt the same as having the context to understand them properly.

'People are sometimes surprised to learn that 1/4 of all human beings are Chinese. The Chinese are even more surprised to learn that 3/4 aren't.'

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
You know I kind wish I'd have gotten in nonsense arguments with Chinese people. Made poo poo up like "English is 6000 years old, older than chinese by 1000 years, the oldest language in the world in fact, everyone knows this!"

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Let us English posted:

This is something I noticed when I went back last summer. People would ask about China and then they wouldn't believe my description because it didn't match the "China is the future" narrative they'd bought into. Canadians in particular were awful about this.

"How can an American teach Physics in China? They're so much better at math."

gently caress Canadians.

lol I love how you're still mad about that. I had FOUR different Canadian people say variations of that to me over the span of that vacation. It's actually really mean! Like, I would understand if they said "How can a foreigner teach STEM subjects in China?" but it was literally, "How can Americans teach in Asia?" with a very strong emphasis on "Americans" so that there was really no other way to interpret it.

I get it, all Americans are terrible fat idiots because we're all one person. Fine. I've been trying to change perception that for my entire adult life, but obviously there's no point anymore, and I won't argue about it.

But don't call me stupid and then brag to me about what a great school U of T is in pretty much the same breath, like one guy did, because obviously it must be terrible if me done went there becuz me so stupid from stupid USA which is the stupidest country on the stupidest planet in the stupidest galaxy in the stupidest universe.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

lol I love how you're still mad about that. I had FOUR different Canadian people say variations of that to me over the span of that vacation. It's actually really mean! Like, I would understand if they said "How can a foreigner teach STEM subjects in China?" but it was literally, "How can Americans teach in Asia?" with a very strong emphasis on "Americans" so that there was really no other way to interpret it.

I get it, all Americans are terrible fat idiots because we're all one person. Fine. I've been trying to change perception that for my entire adult life, but obviously there's no point anymore, and I won't argue about it.

But don't call me stupid and then brag to me about what a great school U of T is in pretty much the same breath, like one guy did, because obviously it must be terrible if me done went there becuz me so stupid from stupid USA which is the stupidest country on the stupidest planet in the stupidest galaxy in the stupidest universe.

Don't argue with them just tell them America Rules the World and smile patronizingly at them / pat their cutes heads.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Reading about the BBC journalists being attacked made me laugh because the only other group besides the CCP that thinks taped confessions under duress hold any sway are literal terrorists

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fauxtool posted:

Reading about the BBC journalists being attacked made me laugh because the only other group besides the CCP that thinks taped confessions under duress hold any sway are literal terrorists

And NK and Russians. And probably Belarus, and maybe Cuba and Venezuela.

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