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JcDent: May 13, 2013; Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Ensign Expendable posted:

Go on.

Incidentally "Defenders" was just banned in Lithuania for "excessive depictions of Russian military might", so I think they also figured it out.

We also have dim opinions on their Viking movie as it denies the historical statehood of Ukraine or something.

ED: wait, what Defenders?

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

aphid_licker posted:

Cyrano, bewbies, thanks, great thoughts!

e: for content, a shirtless Mussolini

He looks like a big melty baby.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 19:25

Xerxes17: Feb 17, 2011

JcDent posted:

We also have dim opinions on their Viking movie as it denies the historical statehood of Ukraine or something.

ED: wait, what Defenders?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4600952/

# ? Mar 2, 2017 19:35

Ensign Expendable: Nov 11, 2008; Lager beer is proof that god loves us; Pillbug

JcDent posted:

We also have dim opinions on their Viking movie as it denies the historical statehood of Ukraine or something.

ED: wait, what Defenders?

Защитники, Russia's attempt at Avengers. Surprising to no one, it's terrible.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 19:44

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Oh poo poo I saw a trailer for that, it looked amazing in a fascisty-even-for-a-superhero-movie type way.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 19:52

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

He looks like a big melty baby.

He looks like someone I'd try very hard to avoid eye contact with at a pub

# ? Mar 2, 2017 19:58

Ensign Expendable: Nov 11, 2008; Lager beer is proof that god loves us; Pillbug

aphid_licker posted:

Oh poo poo I saw a trailer for that, it looked amazing in a fascisty-even-for-a-superhero-movie type way.

My friends keep hounding me to watch it with them and tell them what's happening, so I'll eventually report back with a refined fascism measurement.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:11

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

OwlFancier posted:

He looks like a big melty baby.

He didn't melt, just kind of crisped up.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:13

howe_sam: Mar 7, 2013; Creepy little garbage eaters

bewbies posted:

I am unsure if you can lump Hitler in the same category, but a huge part of Putin's political persona is being this heroic hypermasculine Man's Man ...

By coincidence I caught part of an interview with David Remnick and Evan Osnos of The New Yorker on Fresh Air yesterday where they were talking about this as well.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:19

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Ensign Expendable posted:

My friends keep hounding me to watch it with them and tell them what's happening, so I'll eventually report back with a refined fascism measurement.

There doesn't seem to be an English-language review out at the moment so I'd dig that!

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:23

Ensign Expendable: Nov 11, 2008; Lager beer is proof that god loves us; Pillbug

aphid_licker posted:

There doesn't seem to be an English-language review out at the moment so I'd dig that!

I translated some choice excerpts.

"First things first: it is unnecessary and impossible to watch Defenders. It is also inadvisable to read about it."

"Let's not dance around the issue [Defenders] is bad. No one could doubted that. The question is, how bad? As bad as possible. Worse than you can imagine."

"The easiest way to ruin your holiday."

"This review has many spoilers, but I honest don't know if it's possible to spoil the movie. There is nothing here, and most of all, nothing unexpected."

"Defenders is a dream. Even a day later, it's hard to recall. Not because it's bad, and believe me it's bad, but it's completely and hopelessly empty."

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:29

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Sounds like they succeeded in making a superhero movie that is every bit as good as anything the Americans have put out :v:

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:50

Fangz: Jul 5, 2007; Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Cinema Discusso probably love it.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:57

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Ensign Expendable posted:

I translated some choice excerpts.

"First things first: it is unnecessary and impossible to watch Defenders. It is also inadvisable to read about it."

"Let's not dance around the issue [Defenders] is bad. No one could doubted that. The question is, how bad? As bad as possible. Worse than you can imagine."

"The easiest way to ruin your holiday."

"This review has many spoilers, but I honest don't know if it's possible to spoil the movie. There is nothing here, and most of all, nothing unexpected."

"Defenders is a dream. Even a day later, it's hard to recall. Not because it's bad, and believe me it's bad, but it's completely and hopelessly empty."

Russian is such a beautiful language.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 21:54

HEY GUNS: Oct 11, 2012; FOPTIMUS PRIME

bewbies posted:

I am unsure if you can lump Hitler in the same category, but a huge part of Putin's political persona is being this heroic hypermasculine Man's Man (my personal favorite example of this is Putin scoring bunches of goals in hockey games that feature recently retired NHL hall of famers). The idea is basically to tap into the same kind of mentality that everyone tried to activate during the world wars: masculine men are tough and good, so prove your masculinity and join the army! Putin's persona is a little more...nuanced though. It lets him appeal to the large population of disenfranchised/poor/etc young Russian males that today make up the bulk of his non-oligarch support. Basically, he's taking a big group of people who grew up in the anarchy of post-Soviet Russia, and giving them a tough strong mean father figure to latch onto. It also lets him demonstrate Russian Bear Strength and Power against western Imperialists like Obama, because Obama is a pussy academic.

You see this kind of thing happen a lot of times there's a big unhappy group of young men. National shame, or whatever you want to call it, is a really powerful thing.

edit - here's a good article that explains it better than I did:

This whole masculinity thing is so tied up in Russian politics today that I've actually had to write about it for DoD publications. Like, analyzing the impact of shirtless Putin on the political balance of power in the Baltics. Am serious.

It is also pretty funny how many Alpha/King/grossly insecure young men in the US idolize Putin. The internet is full of such discussions and I love reading it.

putin and i are literally the same exact size. i am five pounds lighter than he is, as of this morning when i weighed myself.

edit: however, cyrano, i don't think it's stretching to say that fascism draws on images of purity, idealized male bodies, and health. At least the German kind did, I don't know about, say, the Romanian kind.

edit 2: i am perversely grateful to live in this time, since i'm learning so much more about fascism. it's fascinating.

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 2, 2017

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DiHK: Feb 4, 2013; by Azathoth

Ask us about Military History Mk. III: Fascism. It's fascinating.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 23:26

Ithle01: May 28, 2013

I have training as a scientist and I find ebola fascinating, but like, I'm not thrilled about seeing it up close.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 23:55

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Wish modern fascists would get more into racing airplanes and graphic design and less into internet comments and cartoon frogs

Hitler would be wayyyy the gently caress into Twitter tho. So loving into it. Mein Kampf would make a sick 700-part tweet chain.

# ? Mar 2, 2017 23:58

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

aphid_licker posted:

Wish modern fascists would get more into racing airplanes and graphic design and less into internet comments and cartoon frogs

Hitler would be wayyyy the gently caress into Twitter tho. So loving into it. Mein Kampf would make a sick 700-part tweet chain.

Airplanes not so much, but somebody out there is graphic designing like a bootleg Goebbels

http://www.tradworker.org/propaganda/

There's also the weird thing where they take Greco-Roman statues and put black and white bars and other TEUTONIC poo poo in the background like its '40s vaporwave

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:02

HEY GUNS: Oct 11, 2012; FOPTIMUS PRIME

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/trumpwave-fashwave-far-right-appropriation-vaporwave-synthwave

seriously, comparing these people with other fascisms is extremely interesting

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:05

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

aphid_licker posted:

Wish modern fascists would get more into racing airplanes and graphic design and less into internet comments and cartoon frogs

Hitler would be wayyyy the gently caress into Twitter tho. So loving into it. Mein Kampf would make a sick 700-part tweet chain.

Would hitler like anime?

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:06

HEY GUNS: Oct 11, 2012; FOPTIMUS PRIME

Ainsley McTree posted:

Would hitler like anime?

when he was a young man he wrote a poem to a girl he idolized but never spoke to, you figure it out

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:06

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I think if he had been born 20 years ago hitler would spend literally all his time watching anime and tweeting.

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Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

There is approximately a 124% chance that Modern Hitler would have a lovely DeviantArt account.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:12

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

I think if he had been born 20 years ago hitler would spend literally all his time watching anime and tweeting.

Anime saves lives

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:18

Nebakenezzer: Sep 13, 2005; The Mote in God's Eye

Italian Navy Posthttps://fi.somethingawful.com/sideimages/r88/82.jpg

Amazingly, if the Italians were now down three cruisers, they soon managed to take out two RN cruisers. The Bonaventure was torpedoed and sank by an Italian submarine, and X MAS, the naval frogmen special forces unit, infiltrated Suda bay, sinking the cruiser York.
The main job in early 1941 was still convoy escort. The Germans kept pestering the Italians to use warships as transports, which was a lovely idea for several reasons: 1) the amount of poo poo you can pack on a warship's deck is like 1/5th of what a single merchantman could carry; and if it was at all flammable, like fuel, it'd make said warship extremely vulnerable to attack.
The British, despite being more or less desperate for convoy escorts themselves, put four modern Destroyers at Malta to hopefully interdict Axis convoys.
These attacked an Axis convoy escorted by three Italian destroyers. They picked their time to intercept to coincide with a storm that grounded possible Axis air cover. (The Italian AF was now being supported in this task by the Luftwaffe.)
The RN used radar and lovely weather at night to get the drop on the convoy. In the melee, the British Destroyers managed to sink the three destroyers and the four merchant ships - but a sinking Italian destroyer managed to sink one of the RN attackers, who then fled. As the convoy sank in shallow water, the Italians would later manage to procure the codebook out of the sunken RN destroyer.
Spring 1941 was mostly convoys, arguing with the Germans to badger the French to let Axis convoys use Tunisian ports, and trying to get the Germans to support taking Malta.
The Germans had other ideas: in wake of the British evacuation of Greece that Spring, they decided to take Crete.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 00:58

Crazycryodude: Aug 15, 2015; Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

http://www.tradworker.org/propaganda/

That propaganda is straight up terrifying. Hell, I read some of the taglines and go "Hey, I actually agree" (just the ones about renewable energy and not smoking crack, I promise) for a second before the rest of my brain catches up and says "THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY NAZIS." I can totally see how people can get drawn in.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 01:06

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

aphid_licker posted:

Wish modern fascists would get more into racing airplanes and graphic design and less into internet comments and cartoon frogs

Hitler would be wayyyy the gently caress into Twitter tho. So loving into it. Mein Kampf would make a sick 700-part tweet chain.

FDR would be too. Both him and Hitler were really early at understanding how huge radio was for getting out political messages to the masses.

edit: if you want to see something really funny compare FDR's 1931 campaigning rhetoric about government and the economy to Trump's. You'll piss off both dems and republicans!

# ? Mar 3, 2017 01:33

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

^^^ Yeah I was thinking of radio and that "Der F�hrer �ber Deutschland" airplane campaign when I thought that he'd be into twitter.

Crazycryodude posted:

That propaganda is straight up terrifying. Hell, I read some of the taglines and go "Hey, I actually agree" (just the ones about renewable energy and not smoking crack, I promise) for a second before the rest of my brain catches up and says "THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY NAZIS." I can totally see how people can get drawn in.

Idk the only one of those that isn't extremely obviously Nazi propaganda is the renewable energy one. And it's not like once you've absentmindedly nodded at that one you suddenly can't have the thought "uh this 'National Socialism NOW' thing seems kinda fashy" anymore. I don't think people get into these by accident.

aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 3, 2017

# ? Mar 3, 2017 01:39

HEY GUNS: Oct 11, 2012; FOPTIMUS PRIME

aphid_licker posted:

I don't think people get into these by accident.

yeah they do. people groom them over the internet like ISIS does. white supremacists have been recruiting on 4chan and reddit for a decade and now look where we are

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xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Out of curiosity were there any successful cavalry charges even on a small scale in WWI?

# ? Mar 3, 2017 03:47

P-Mack: Nov 10, 2007

xthetenth posted:

Out of curiosity were there any successful cavalry charges even on a small scale in WWI?

https://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2007/10/30/the-charge-of-the-4th-light-horse-brigade-at-beersheba/

# ? Mar 3, 2017 03:52

SeanBeansShako: Nov 20, 2009; Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

xthetenth posted:

Out of curiosity were there any successful cavalry charges even on a small scale in WWI?

There was quite a few engagements like that in the first month of the war.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 03:55

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

HEY GAIL posted:

yeah they do. people groom them over the internet like ISIS does. white supremacists have been recruiting on 4chan and reddit for a decade and now look where we are

and yet owning people on twitter doesn't change anything

hardly seems fair

# ? Mar 3, 2017 04:31

HEY GUNS: Oct 11, 2012; FOPTIMUS PRIME

Ainsley McTree posted:

and yet owning people on twitter doesn't change anything

hardly seems fair

imagine having the ability to cyberbully hitler thoe
he'd get so worked up

edit: for some reason, i imagine stalin would be immune to twitter owns

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Mar 3, 2017

# ? Mar 3, 2017 04:35

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

xthetenth posted:

Out of curiosity were there any successful cavalry charges even on a small scale in WWI?

Postwar (polish-Bolshevik) komarow was a big cav furball

# ? Mar 3, 2017 04:45

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

HEY GAIL posted:

imagine having the ability to cyberbully hitler thoe
he'd get so worked up

edit: for some reason, i imagine stalin would be immune to twitter owns

I don't think stalin would use twitter personally, he'd have interns for that

and that would be a really scary job

# ? Mar 3, 2017 04:51

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Slim Jim Pickens posted:

http://www.tradworker.org/propaganda/

Why would they call their own stuff "propaganda" and not "agit-prop" or whatever? I thought you want to use "propaganda" to describe what "the other guys" are putting out, and your media is "the suppressed truth" or something similar.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 04:52

SeanBeansShako: Nov 20, 2009; Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Davin Valkri posted:

Why would they call their own stuff "propaganda" and not "agit-prop" or whatever? I thought you want to use "propaganda" to describe what "the other guys" are putting out, and your media is "the suppressed truth" or something similar.

Nazi's are still crazy dumb.

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Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Davin Valkri posted:

Why would they call their own stuff "propaganda" and not "agit-prop" or whatever? I thought you want to use "propaganda" to describe what "the other guys" are putting out, and your media is "the suppressed truth" or something similar.

The impression that I'm getting is that these guys are the uncool preppy kids of American Fascist High, so even their attempts at nihilistic irony are more confusing than anything.

Fash-wave on the other hand, whew

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