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say what you want about the tea party they did succeed in taking over the vast majority of state legislatures
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:say what you want about the tea party they did succeed in taking over the vast majority of state legislatures Never underestimate the power of angry yelling
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Mordor She Wrote posted:What did Republicans learn from their tantrum other than to double down on it and tantrum harder? And it worked, so let's do it too
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is trump hosed yet
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Third World Reggin posted:is trump hosed yet he's not spending as much time twitter shitposting as president as he imagined the job would entail but other than that he seems to be doing alright
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Obamacare was a rip off, I can give you a number for it - +160$ a month currently is what I'm being gouged over pre-Obamacare Then why did you switch to an OBamacare plan over the cheaper plan you had previously? It's painfully obvious you don't fully understand what's going on: - Obamacare implemented... people must now have insurance, which is great because for decades responsible people have paid the tab for uninsured who rack up insane medical bills - Insurance companies realize that they can raise costs across the board, because clueless people will blame it on Obamacare - Spunky Psycho Ho falls for it Also, dashes aren't colons
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And it worked, so let's do it too apart from tantrumping they also managed to sustain political momentum for the entire obummer two terms to accomplish their goals if the left can do that or a leftist dem faction that would be great, tyvm in advance america
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And it worked, so let's do it too Let's take over all the bird houses, really double down on calling Republicans russians, and girdlock all government functions! Apparently this is the way to success.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Let's take over all the bird houses, really double down on calling Republicans russians, and girdlock all government functions! Apparently this is the way to success. I'm not sure what the bird house thing is about but otherwise yes
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Barack Obama murdered American citizens with flying robots, and made broad increases in a program that allows our government to intercept anyone's dick pics at any time anywhere across the globe. Our past presidents are have only failed to be listed among the greatest genocides and horrific acts of war known to mankind because mankind has managed so many very large examples to place at the top of that ladder. Oh but Donald Trump might be friends with people in a different country. You know what you're right, I'm loving terrified. What do? Drunk Nerds posted:- Insurance companies realize that they can raise costs across the board, because clueless people will blame it on Obamacare And governors block health care legislation and outsource their states' exchange websites to India to pocket the money they save so the whole system is awful and you know who is to blame? The opposing political party, those bastards.
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Knight posted:Can't say I didn't expect you to say that, but whatever you've gotta tell yourself. Trump is an elitist who hob-knobs with politicians and billionaires to line his pockets at the expense of the people, but he sells supporters and enablers the fantasy that he's a wildcard who the establishment is out to get in a bitter grudge because "they" lost the election! Meanwhile he keeps the system running as always, benefiting the rich and powerful at the expense of the common man, bombing foreign countries and putting his family and friends in positions of power. But you can keep defending his obvious lies and shady behavior, or any other of his dangerous faults, because the only real problem you'll talk about is that boogeyman over there! They're all in cahoots and sooo jealous, it's pathetic! Trump is 100% an elitist but he's also 100% not in the same elitist circle the US typically draws executive branch leaders from. I would rather have had an elitist from the Ivy-League group but that doesn't mean I'm going to start pretending like that group doesn't exist and actively attempt to sabotage Trump at every turn because he hosed up their gig.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And it worked, so let's do it too This strategy seems to have failed the Democrats multiple times in recent history in regards to copying Republican tactics but maybe it will be different this time!
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revdrkevind posted:Barack Obama murdered American citizens with flying robots, and made broad increases in a program that allows our government to intercept anyone's dick pics at any time anywhere across the globe. Our past presidents are have only failed to be listed among the greatest genocides and horrific acts of war known to mankind because mankind has managed so many very large examples to place at the top of that ladder. Trump killed an eight year old American girl his first week in office bruh
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revdrkevind posted:Barack Obama murdered American citizens with flying robots, and made broad increases in a program that allows our government to intercept anyone's dick pics at any time anywhere across the globe. Our past presidents are have only failed to be listed among the greatest genocides and horrific acts of war known to mankind because mankind has managed so many very large examples to place at the top of that ladder. So what's the deal with your tiny penis? Or at least the story behind that red text
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Trump killed an eight year old American girl his first week in office bruh 
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Trump killed an eight year old American girl his first week in office bruh Drone striking children and weddings is ok as long as it's a president from MY political party.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Trump killed an eight year old American girl his first week in office bruh This was inevitable no matter who became president bruh, one could say it's a horrendous consequence of the American foreverwar. E: What makes this particular child casualty extra news-worthy is that her teenage brother was killed in a drone strike by the previous administration. Talk about the fates aligning Toadvine fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Toadvine posted:This was inevitable no matter who became president bruh, one could say it's a horrendous consequence of the American foreverwar. sounds like commie talk to me
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here's some light reading for y'all: https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1gg6SdgftOynibeZjThGfa6eN8myZFYgtv7ztdJgeJSU/mobilebasic
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People turn to conspiracies for psychological comfort. They allow people to believe we don't live in a crazy unpredictable world where JFK can get his head blown off by a nutjob or psychopaths can level two skyscrapers. Some omnipotent government is in control of everything and even if they are evil at least someone is in control. The Russian conspiracy allows people to believe that Trump didn't fairly win an election, and half of America isn't behind him. The pendulum did not swing the other way; instead it's all a dastardly plot by the Russians and many gullible fellow Americans have just been brainwashed by fake news. If they just try hard enough they can uncover the plot and we can put this whole mess behind us. For pizzagate I guess the appeal is that the who's who of hated and corrupt elites is finally going to meet justice. They'll rot in prison rather than be comfortable millionaires living out pleasant lives. People on both sides need to accept reality, be rational, and stop embarrassing themselves.
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CBT Time posted:People turn to conspiracies for psychological comfort. They allow people to believe we don't live in a crazy unpredictable world where JFK can get his head blown off by a nutjob or psychopaths can level two skyscrapers. Some omnipotent government is in control of everything and even if they are evil at least someone is in control. Russia selectively leaking information to influence an election in favor of a candidate they like isn't really a conspiracy. Hell they probably learned to do that from us.
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Manafort resigned (or was asked to resign by Trump) because of his Russian ties. Flynn was fired by Trump, not the democrats. Sessions recused himself from any investigations involving the Russian hacking of our elections. Maybe if Trump wants people to stop talking about his ties to Russia he should stop firing people for their ties to Russia.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Russia selectively leaking information to influence an election in favor of a candidate they like isn't really a conspiracy. Hell they probably learned to do that from us. especially when the other candidate was threatening them with war
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 Yes, actually. But I'll probably be saying that about Trump after I see the next republican president since intelligence and competence are on a steep downward trend. It's worth noting that the only competent president the Republicans have had in the last 40+ years was the first George Bush and that's the one the republicans don't like.
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really queer Christmas posted:So what's the deal with your tiny penis? Or at least the story behind that red text I was mentally abused, but I'm a man so obviously it's okay to laugh at me. I should man up. NotWearingPants posted:Manafort resigned (or was asked to resign by Trump) because of his Russian ties. Maybe if people would read Art of the Deal, they'd realize this is a classic form of bartering that he does to shift opponents' emphasis to an area where they feel like they can win, freeing him to get concessions he actually wants.
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No I don't miss W yet and I doubt I ever will. I think microplastics in the water cycle may be eroding our already short attention spans.
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NotWearingPants posted:Manafort resigned (or was asked to resign by Trump) because of his Russian ties. lol that anyone would argue this is a conspiracy that doesn't involve Russia and the President just lol
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Toadvine posted:No I don't miss W yet and I doubt I ever will.
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I'm also lolin' that Trump has done a better job at delegitimizing his own presidency than he did Obama's.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Then why did you switch to an OBamacare plan over the cheaper plan you had previously? Please explain more about your take on Obamacare since you fully understand what is going on. I am having trouble following you.
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NotWearingPants posted:It's worth noting that the only competent president the Republicans have had in the last 40+ years was the first George Bush and that's the one the republicans don't like. The Bushes are Republican royalty! solar energy panel fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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"The Republicans did it, so we should do it too!" Said the plucky Democratic voter, whose party stood for nothing anymore.
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I think it's a reasonable strategy to make TRump seem as illegitimate as possible to counter his narrative that the country is behind him. The alternative would only strengthen Trump's narrative.
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Panzeh posted:I think it's a reasonable strategy to make TRump seem as illegitimate as possible to counter his narrative that the country is behind him. The strategy makes sense to a DC party-minded crowd, but it's completely ridiculous otherwise. Americans don't care about Russia. Americans don't trust the media about Russia. Americans don't care about DC politicking. If you wanna stop Trump you need a solid opposition with a solid message. Instead you have weird Democratic jingoism against a strong GOP who isn't going to prosecute its own people. What is any of this accomplishing? Democrats love the optics of a Putin puppet master, but they don't realize that in the real world nobody gives a poo poo. P.S. Democrats don't have to counter Trump's claim that he has a mandate. People know he's not that popular. They should focus on attacking his terrible policies now.
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NotWearingPants posted:Manafort resigned (or was asked to resign by Trump) because of his Russian ties. Flynn was fired for lying. Sessions recusing is easy to understand. If you are serious about putting an end to rumors you want to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. There's very little information about what really went down with Manafort but again it was likely to get people quit playing six degrees of Vladimir Putin. You can criticize Trump for getting rid of these people but not getting rid of them would look less guilty somehow? Manafort where Bannon is now, Flynn still Flynning, and Sessions saying deal with it? A huge swath of the IC would love to take Trump down and the best they can come up with is "no evidence". the truth is out there
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Thank you friends for your advice on what the democrats should be doing instead of hyping the "Compromised by Russia" thing. It is very kind of you. You are good people.
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more like lol https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837722869106880517 right? Couldn't find a picture of Hillary?
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Knight posted:more like lol Do you know what that is code for when you go for "donuts and coffee" with someone, right?
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