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Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

runupon cracker posted:

how many policies can we care about before it becomes "too many policies" and it completely nullifies our argument?

Obviously you can only oppose one thing at a time. Otherwise you'll lose 'political capital'.

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# ? May 9, 2024 22:01

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Lt. Tanaka posted:

Do you know what that is code for when you go for "donuts and coffee" with someone, right?

No, I am horrifically vanilla. Please explain using Schumer and Putin as characters.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 19:32

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

Panzeh posted:

Obviously you can only oppose one thing at a time. Otherwise you'll lose 'political capital'.

What are you opposing exactly?

Sessions lying? Sessions talking to ambassador? Russia? Trump's cabinet picks? Trump's presidency?

Now imagine how muddled all this is to the average voter.

Democrats want to replicate Benghazi, but Benghazi was an actual thing that resulted in dead Americans. Russiagate is a media frenzy.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 19:44

CBT Time: Mar 4, 2005

NotWearingPants posted:

Thank you friends for your advice on what the democrats should be doing instead of hyping the "Compromised by Russia" thing.

It is very kind of you. You are good people.

"yes comrade, I know it is unconventional but psyops campaigns at the tail end of a 2/5 thread on a dead gay forum are the secret to destroying the Democrats!"

# ? Mar 3, 2017 19:46

Gasbraai: Oct 25, 2010; Lictor my Dictor

Still not understanding how or why Russia is the bad guy again, can someone explain it to me?
Are they pushing for a dangerous ideology to invade American hearts and minds like marxism?
Are they massing nuclear weapons and pointing it at America in an overt display of communist power?
Are they sending cosmonauts into space in communist displays of one-upmanship?

It seems like the worst possible thing Russia is currently doing is rooting for the administration that won't start a loving nuclear war with them, but apparently that is a terrible horrible no-good thing because the guy in charge of that administration said bad words and uses too much self tanner.

Oh, and that thing about air-striking the jihadist insurgents in Syria that America was funding to try and depose Assad.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:05

a bone to pick: Sep 14, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

Lunixnerd posted:

Still not understanding how or why Russia is the bad guy again, can someone explain it to me?
Are they pushing for a dangerous ideology to invade American hearts and minds like marxism?
Are they massing nuclear weapons and pointing it at America in an overt display of communist power?
Are they sending cosmonauts into space in communist displays of one-upmanship?

It seems like the worst possible thing Russia is currently doing is rooting for the administration that won't start a loving nuclear war with them, but apparently that is a terrible horrible no-good thing because the guy in charge of that administration said bad words and uses too much self tanner.

Oh, and that thing about air-striking the jihadist insurgents in Syria that America was funding to try and depose Assad.

Crimea.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:14

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Lunixnerd posted:

Still not understanding how or why Russia is the bad guy again, can someone explain it to me?

The argument is that they want a President who will look the other way when they bomb UN convoys and invade other countries. Not a far walk from the last decade but it would be a bonus.

Wait, no, BOW BEFORE PUTIN OR NUCLEAR WAR WAR OR APPEASEMENT COMPUTE ERROR COMPUTE

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:15

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Knight posted:

more like lol ~~trump's~~ schumer's hosed, am i rite?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837722869106880517

right? Couldn't find a picture of Hillary?

lol I think he's getting nervous.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:20

SpaceGoatFarts: Jan 5, 2010; sic transit gloria mundi; Nap Ghost

I have no idea what Russia's intentions are but it's pretty obvious Putin is benefiting from weaker and divided over internal politics western countries.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:24

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

This dude is owning your entire country

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:26

Tiny Deer: Jan 16, 2012

To be fair (for some stupid reason, I don't know) Russia invaded the Ukraine and did a whole lot in Syria under Democrats, it's not really like they were facing stiff resistance before.

Obviously they will face much less token chastising now but Russia hasn't given a gently caress about what the world at large thinks of them for a long time.

To be clear: I think Donald Trump is a big fan of Russia and will do whatever Putin suggests pretty much, I just don't believe it involves an intelligent conspiracy. Maybe a really dumb conspiracy. I don't think Trump needs help to be a messy idiot. He just wants his pal Vlad to approve of him because he admires him, it doesn't need to involve blackmail or anything.

If Russia really was behind everything I will be extremely impressed with them, though.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:27

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I have no idea what Russia's intentions are but it's pretty obvious Putin is benefiting from weaker and divided over internal politics western countries.

all this talk about Putin and trump is cool and all but what i really want to know is what the dnc and leftists are up to

also, is Putin really that bad a guy, i mean, when you think about it maybe we should be focusing on more important things such as this is why trump won

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:29

BeefThief: Aug 8, 2007

i heard it was mike pence who bulldozed those jewish cemeteries, c/d??

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:34

solar energy panel: Apr 30, 2007

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:34

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Really, it's not like everyone suddenly got afraid of Russia and think they're going to steal their children and eat them all of a sudden. Everyone has about the same unfavorable opinion about Russia as they did over the last 5 years...except for Republicans, who are suddenly more favorable towards Putin than they've ever been.

I can speculate on the reasons why, but ultimately this makes a lot of people suspicious. It makes people more suspicious when they start trying to influence our election in favor of a candidate who can't stop praising Putin, denying that he or his campaign has any dealings with Russia, and then having people in his campaign resign after their connections are discovered. This is a concern over the Trump administration in their honesty and openness about dealing with Russia more than Russia itself.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:36

Sammus: Nov 30, 2005

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Trump killed an eight year old American girl his first week in office bruh

One year for every year he'll be president.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:36

solar energy panel: Apr 30, 2007

Knight posted:

I can speculate on the reasons why

Why?

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:39

Gasbraai: Oct 25, 2010; Lictor my Dictor

a bone to pick posted:

Crimea.

More like Crymea, as in Cry-me-a river

BOOM

owned :smug:

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:39

Mordor She Wrote: Nov 17, 2014

Knight posted:

Really, it's not like everyone suddenly got afraid of Russia and think they're going to steal their children and eat them all of a sudden. Everyone has about the same unfavorable opinion about Russia as they did over the last 5 years...except for Republicans, who are suddenly more favorable towards Putin than they've ever been.

I can speculate on the reasons why, but ultimately this makes a lot of people suspicious. It makes people more suspicious when they start trying to influence our election in favor of a candidate who can't stop praising Putin, denying that he or his campaign has any dealings with Russia, and then having people in his campaign resign after their connections are discovered. This is a concern over the Trump administration in their honesty and openness about dealing with Russia more than Russia itself.

Republicans are inherently authoritarian shitheads and Putin appeals to them on that level.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:40

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

Knight posted:

Really, it's not like everyone suddenly got afraid of Russia and think they're going to steal their children and eat them all of a sudden. Everyone has about the same unfavorable opinion about Russia as they did over the last 5 years...except for Republicans, who are suddenly more favorable towards Putin than they've ever been.

I can speculate on the reasons why, but ultimately this makes a lot of people suspicious. It makes people more suspicious when they start trying to influence our election in favor of a candidate who can't stop praising Putin, denying that he or his campaign has any dealings with Russia, and then having people in his campaign resign after their connections are discovered. This is a concern over the Trump administration in their honesty and openness about dealing with Russia more than Russia itself.

i wouldnt be surprised if there was a rise in favourable opinion; the whole ukraine invasion thing has become boring-nonnews, and trumps been going down pretty hard on putin (to be fair, who can blame him -- if he didnt leverage homophobia in order to further his political agenda id totally jump him too)

are there any other polls of favourability though? also, is that a reliable source?

vvvv oh ok, cool, thanks friend!

crime weed fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Mar 3, 2017

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:41

The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

Lt. Tanaka posted:

Why?

I actually think the main reason is political tribalism is really strong right now, and the Republican president likes Putin, so the Republicans are talking themselves into it - really is that simple. Beyond that, there's always been a base in the hard right for Putin's authoritarian nationalism.

Kjoery posted:

are there any other polls of favourability though? also, is that a reliable source?

I've seen that same Republican/Putin trend elsewhere + YouGov is fine.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:43

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Knight posted:

If it seems like just a short time ago that republicans were criticizing Obama for not taking a firmer stand against Russia, it's because it was.

quote:

Republicans fiercely criticized President Barack Obama's handling of the crisis in Ukraine on Sunday, urging the White House to take a firm stand against Russia's intervention just as the Crimea region of Ukraine was voting on a referendum to split from the country.

"Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said on CNN's State of the Union, calling for "fundamental reassessment" of the U.S. relationship with Moscow.

"It's kleptocracy, it's corruption, it's a nation that's really only dependent upon oil and gas for their economy," McCain said.

�Our administration is creating an air of permissiveness,� Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) said on Fox News Sunday. "We do need to show long-term resolve. The comment that Secretary Kerry made is not helpful and again it shows a wishy washiness."

Republicans said Russia's recalcitrance requires a strong hand.

"No more reset buttons, no more 'Tell Vladimir I'll be more flexible.' Treat him for what he is," McCain said. "That does not mean the re-ignition of the Cold War. But it does mean treating him in the way that we understand an individual who believes in restoring the old Russian empire.�

http://time.com/26522/russia-crimea-ukraine-republicans-obama/

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:50

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

NotWearingPants posted:

If it seems like just a short time ago that republicans were criticizing Obama for not taking a firmer stand against Russia, it's because it was.

http://time.com/26522/russia-crimea-ukraine-republicans-obama/

ok yes this thing about the party actually in power is cool and all but Let Me Tell You About How Failed And Irrelevant Candidate Clinton Started World War 3, Cold War 2, And Brought Nuclear Annihilation To Us All.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 20:56

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Kjoery posted:

ok yes this thing about the party actually in power is cool and all but Let Me Tell You About How Failed And Irrelevant Candidate Clinton Started World War 3, Cold War 2, And Brought Nuclear Annihilation To Us All.

Corporate democrats are loving this poo poo. With this Trump clusterfuck they can get back to winning elections without listening to progressives. Get hosed Bernie!

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:00

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Lt. Tanaka posted:

Why?

I think a lot of Republicans view Russia as a prospective ally in a cultural war against Islam. We're talking about a lot of different people, so their reasons may have broad range, from wanting to team up to stop ISIS (an admirable goal) with a foreign leader that is viewed as a more "brutal" authoritarian, to a more generalized battle to crush multiculturalism under the joined banner of either white supremacy or European culture/heritage. But I'm not a political scientist so don't take that to the bank and try to cash it.

Peace with Russia is still the ideal, the US has not been exactly virtuous in comparison.

Kjoery posted:

are there any other polls of favourability though? also, is that a reliable source?

vvvv oh ok, cool, thanks friend!

Here's another good one: http://www.gallup.com/poll/204191/putin-image-rises-mostly-among-republicans.aspx?g_source=position1&g_medium=related&g_campaign=tiles

Over the last 2 years there has been a dramatic change of opinion of Putin by party affiliation. Somehow when Americans, as a whole, have been more and more unfavorable towards Putin, the reaction among one group has swung dramatically in the opposite direction.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:00

pop fly to McGillicutty: Feb 2, 2004; A peckish little mouse!

Krustic posted:

Drone striking children and weddings is ok as long as it's a president from MY political party.

Actually it isn't. People pointing at Obama's crimes when someone brings up Trump's is exactly the problem. Thanks for illustrating that.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:03

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

Knight posted:

This is a concern over the Trump administration in their honesty and openness about dealing with Russia more than Russia itself.

Yet you have Dems and Reps calling phishing emails "an act of war."

It seems to me that some people want to excuse Clinton's terrible campaign, some people want to smear Trump, and some people want to continue to antagonize Russia.

Who benefits?

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:05

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

Knight posted:

Over the last 2 years there has been a dramatic change of opinion of Putin by party affiliation. Somehow when Americans, as a whole, have been more and more unfavorable towards Putin, the reaction among one group has swung dramatically in the opposite direction.

interesting. i dont remember fox running pro-russia articles -- did infowars or breitbart maybe run pro-RUS stuff? (though, i dont think breitbart was that influential back then -- they mostly catered to the unfrogified alt-right back then).

or wait, has the trump shitshow really been going for two years now.

could you guys maybe fix your goddamn election cycle jesus christ

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:09

WatermelonGun: May 7, 2009

The official "imperialist pig dog squabbling" thread

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:11

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

Honestly i'm glad Shillary lost and it's time to burn trump to the ground.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:12

crime weed: Nov 9, 2009

Panzeh posted:

Honestly i'm glad Shillary lost and it's time to burn trump to the ground.

i much would have preferred that trump lost and it was time to burn shillary to the ground but maybe thats just me???

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:13

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Another Trump advisor changing his story: http://www.businessinsider.com/jd-gordon-trump-adviser-ukraine-rnc-2017-3

lol Trump's hosed.

He changed the republican platform on Russia/Ukraine in exchange for Russia releasing emails to wikileaks and he was very sloppy about it. Sad.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:14

a bone to pick: Sep 14, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

NotWearingPants posted:

lol Trump's hosed.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:21

Krustic: Mar 28, 2010; Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Actually it isn't. People pointing at Obama's crimes when someone brings up Trump's is exactly the problem. Thanks for illustrating that.

No problem. Much like president G.W. Bush, I am a uniter not a divider. I also completely agree that presidents should be held accountable for their crimes unless they're In the party I like.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:31

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

lol that anyone would argue this is a conspiracy that doesn't involve Russia and the President just lol

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I'm also lolin' that Trump has done a better job at delegitimizing his own presidency than he did Obama's.

# ? Mar 3, 2017 21:48

Nut to Butt: Apr 13, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

lol trump's hosed

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.xp9ayu5i9

e: he got away

# ? Mar 3, 2017 23:43

Toadvine: Mar 16, 2009; Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Nut to Butt posted:

lol trump's hosed

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.xp9ayu5i9

e: he got away

The Russian Connection is the democrats' white whale

# ? Mar 3, 2017 23:53

T.S. Smelliot: Apr 23, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

Trump status: not at all hosed

:smugdog:

# ? Mar 3, 2017 23:56

somethingawful bf: Jun 17, 2005

Nut to Butt posted:

lol trump's hosed

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.xp9ayu5i9

e: he got away

That's a pretty accurate portrayal.

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Fog Tripper: Mar 3, 2008; by Smythe

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

He's the president America deserves

It's gonna be yooge, it's gonna be like Bioshock except with a golden ocean

D&D is leaking.

# ? Mar 4, 2017 00:01

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