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Samuel Clemens posted:I can understand how you can be a Christian Hindu, but being a Hindu Christian sounds rather tricky. Perhaps you would view the Trinity as excessively reductionist?
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I won't belabor it, Tias, but I don't believe it's a moral failing to not feel gratitude toward a hostile universe. It sounds like you want to develop that gratitude anyways, and I won't try to discourage you, but if you can't do it, don't hate yourself for it. Grieve for yourself and all of us and think of how it can be bettered.
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I'm praying for you bro. I can't offer any pointers on how to develop the attitude you want, because I myself am too much controlled by my passions. But I am praying for you.
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Grandmother of Five posted:I don't have a close positive relationship with the Serenity Prayer, and would be more likely to pray in a more loose form, and Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 is a comforting prayer to me. I don't know if I am understanding your request exactly right, but I don't think that the way you describe as coping now, is different from what I'd do and have done in times of spiritual hardship; turning to prayer and self-reflection, and hopefully being able to lean on a real-life support-network of friends and family, as well. Yeah, it's going to be allright I guess, I was just really getting into a groove where I thought I had found my one true love etc. and now I feel completely gutted :/ I'm all about the loving serenity prayer, though, it's kind of the motto of AA, after all! OwlFancier posted:I can't give you religious advice Tias but everything you've posted suggests you're a drat fine sort and I hope things work out for you a bit better, if there's any justice in the world you deserve it to. HEY GAIL posted:I'm praying for you bro. I can't offer any pointers on how to develop the attitude you want, because I myself am too much controlled by my passions. But I am praying for you. You guys are the best  Samuel Clemens posted:I can understand how you can be a Christian Hindu, but being a Hindu Christian sounds rather tricky. I helped hide a hindu refugee in the collective where I lived, once. Apparently some protestants here got to him, because he started stealing my chair and turning it into an altar to Jesus 
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someone just messaged me this https://www.facebook.com/OrthodoxChristianMemes/photos/a.1423338534642623.1073741831.1416578741985269/1642472626062545/?type=3
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Is it time to reclaim our heritage of abhorring and abstaining from usury? Is it even possible?
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CountFosco posted:Is it time to reclaim our heritage of abhorring and abstaining from usury? Is it even possible? Unfortunately the abhorrence of usury has gotten very intertwined with anti-Semitism over the centuries, so tread carefully. Step one is actually defining it precisely. Is there a specific interest rate? Is it presupposing fraudulent initiation, or predatory collection? Or is it "I know it when i see it?" Step two is to declare a Jubilee every half century.
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Oh right, forgot about that. For the record, my post was not inspired by anti-semitism, but the recent GBS thread where I found out that some people are LEASING DOGS. Like Rent-A-Center, but for living things! When I was a little kid, my Jewish cousins and aunt+uncle were (and are) quite close to my immediate family and so I thought of myself as half-Jewish, not really getting it. I guess given that in some ways Christianity is attempting some continuity with the Old Testament I guess it's still kind of true though.
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Hello Christgoons, long time no read. Can I get a recommendation for a biography on Emperor Constantine?
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SirPhoebos posted:Hello Christgoons, long time no read. David Potter's Constantine the Emperor is probably where you want to go. Be warned that Potter likes details, and his prose can be a bit dry. But it's also not going to be historical fiction masquerading as biography, which is a severe risk with a figure like Constantine.
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Bel_Canto posted:David Potter's Constantine the Emperor is probably where you want to go. Be warned that Potter likes details, and his prose can be a bit dry. But it's also not going to be historical fiction masquerading as biography, which is a severe risk with a figure like Constantine. Thank you! 
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So throughout Lent I'm re-reading Job and packing in commentaries. At the moment I'm using the Moralia by St Gregory the Great, On Job by Gustavo Gutierrez, plus takes by Aquinas and St John Chrysostom. What else should I add? Any distinctly Protestant readings I should take up (I noticed something from Calvin on Amazon)? Any Jewish commentaries? Philosophers' investigations? Perspectives outside the Western theological bubble? Scholars of other traditions responding to Job?
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I know that Kierkegaard wrote alot about the sacrifice of Isaac, maybe he has something to say about Job as well? I imagine that he would.
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CountFosco posted:Is it time to reclaim our heritage of abhorring and abstaining from usury? Is it even possible?  Christian Socialism.
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christian full communism
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Senju Kannon posted:christian full communism fully automated luxury gay ultramontano-communism
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Bel_Canto posted:fully automated luxury gay ultramontano-communism save something for the cyberorthodox space patriarchate
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Bel_Canto posted:fully automated luxury gay ultramontano-communism Can we just adopt the program in Malevich's "Laziness - the Real Truth of Mankind?" It pretty much has all of those things.
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CountFosco posted:I know that Kierkegaard wrote alot about the sacrifice of Isaac, maybe he has something to say about Job as well? I imagine that he would. If he does, it's probably ominous 
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Bolocko posted:So throughout Lent I'm re-reading Job and packing in commentaries. At the moment I'm using the Moralia by St Gregory the Great, On Job by Gustavo Gutierrez, plus takes by Aquinas and St John Chrysostom. What else should I add? Any distinctly Protestant readings I should take up (I noticed something from Calvin on Amazon)? Any Jewish commentaries? Philosophers' investigations? Perspectives outside the Western theological bubble? Scholars of other traditions responding to Job? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Job-Commentary-Translation-Academic/dp/0788505998 it's the translation for me, i don't read any others edit: my brother in law converted to catholicism from reading kierkegaard, which is such a fine piece of 180-degree wrong turn HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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HEY GAIL posted:a guy who teaches at my alma mater wrote this Is it worth the two grand, though? Edit: Jokes aside I think this is the same book in a new print. Thirteen Orphans fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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It is worth the pearl of great price. ?
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Pope Francis calls for renewal of sacred music traditionquote:
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HEY GAIL posted:a guy who teaches at my alma mater wrote this
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i wonder if there are going to be catholic conservatives that hate francis so much they'll convince themselves that some of that lovely music is in fact good and awesome and how dare francis go against a decades old tradition this reminds me there's a hymn whose melody is almost completely lifted from gustav holst's jupiter, anyone know what i'm talking about? i can't remember the lyrics but i swear the melody is just about identical to like a refrain or something in there
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Discussions of modern church music always remind me that this exists https://www.giamusic.com/search_details.cfm?title_id=3334
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Paladinus posted:Discussions of modern church music always remind me that this exists There's a pair of guys who do lets plays and happen to both be trained musicians and one literally leads his church band, so they have interesting diversions into music and church stuff. I seem to remember one of them saying that like 90% of contemporary Christian church music follows an extremely formulaic structure and is basically all done by one dude. I'll see if I can find the video. Got it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flKCwFg2ziY&t=1015s (the series may also interest you if you are curious about very not-Christian companies making Christian cash-in games in the Nintendo era as commented on by two Christians.) OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Paladinus posted:Discussions of modern church music always remind me that this exists not bowie tho 
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Senju Kannon posted:i wonder if there are going to be catholic conservatives that hate francis so much they'll convince themselves that some of that lovely music is in fact good and awesome and how dare francis go against a decades old tradition You're thinking of O God Beyond All Praising. There's another called O Merciful Redeemer that I like even more.
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Please forgive me for having babys first contact with Spinoza in this thread, but I just saw an introduction to his thought today, and this stuff is kind of blowing my mind. Suppose even our minds are small, fragmentary pieces of God! If true, we should do well to make our lives as interesting as possible, to give God a pleasurable experience. No? Or yes? Assuming the rest of the world is also God, God might already know all experience, but assuming some measure of free will, it will still be novel til God, right?
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Tias posted:Please forgive me for having babys first contact with Spinoza in this thread, but I just saw an introduction to his thought today, and this stuff is kind of blowing my mind. spinoza rules and we should all read him. i'm not sure about "novel," since nature is also God, but "entertaining" definitely.
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OwlFancier posted:
I'll check it out. Wisdom Tree is an interesting gaming phenomenon. StashAugustine posted:not bowie tho I don't know how true this is, but some say that the songwriter took the pseudonym because he was a convicted sex offender and didn't want to give up writing church music.
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Bel_Canto posted:You're thinking of O God Beyond All Praising. There's another called O Merciful Redeemer that I like even more. Man i love when we do O God Beyond All Praising.
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Tias posted:Suppose even our minds are small, fragmentary pieces of God! If true, we should do well to make our lives as interesting as possible, to give God a pleasurable experience. Neoplatonism is a hell of a drug.
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Tias posted:Please forgive me for having babys first contact with Spinoza in this thread, but I just saw an introduction to his thought today, and this stuff is kind of blowing my mind. "Interesting" is a pretty broad term. I think it's important not to let "interesting" turn into elitism, where we disdain "common" people who lead "uninteresting" lives. There's plenty of interesting but evil things. And I kind of feel like those last statements there seem to be trending towards an unabashed monism.
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 In their defense, as long as the hot dogs are largely pork-adjacent products, this is fairly Polish.Edit: also when I am no longer on phone I will do a post re last page about Christian-Hindu technical overlap arguments and none of you who are not mods can stop me. 
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/04/vatican-civil-war-conservatives-battle-francis-lentquote:A letter to Pope Francis from four cardinals hostile to change was made public. The communication took the form known as a “dubia”, expressing doubts, demanding yes and no answers and in effect challenging the pope’s authority by asking him to make points of church teaching clear on this issue and Christian life. imagine a world in which the latest hot pope drama is so important to you you have to go put up an angry poster about it HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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