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Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll

Lord Waffle Beard posted:

It's funny that mark hunt had been on this tirade against steroid users then accepts a fight with one of the biggest steroid cheats of all time, then complains about it

In an interview that someone posted Hunt said that his family is who suffers if he doesn't fight and get paid. I think that's a good enough reason to both take a fight and complain about steroid cheaters.

Mark Hunt is right to speak out on what he thinks is wrong even if internet people don't like having to deal with the conversation.

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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

I.N.R.I posted:

Take a chill pill

piss off Swami


<3

Lord Waffle Beard
Dec 7, 2013
Ever since the early weigh ins were instated there has been roughly 1 million more problems with people missing weight

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
So when people say its so unfair that Khabib isnt the champ, the UFC isnt a Real sport because he doesnt get constant title shots etc, might it have anything to do with the fact that any time he is matched up against an interesting style matchup or a big name that people actually want to see (Ferguson, Cerrone, others) he mysteriously drops out several times

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Auron posted:

Also Mark Hunt is a moron and I hope Overeem punches his stupid face in so he'll at least temporarily shut the gently caress up about steroids.

Having Brock Lesnar lying on top of you for a while tends to change your outlook about steroid users a bit.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Lord Waffle Beard posted:

Ever since the early weigh ins were instated there has been roughly 1 million more problems with people missing weight

I think people are under the impression they have a longer time to recover so they can cut an extreme amount in comparison to before, because it won't be as bad on fight night, and then they over estimate how much they can cut and get hurt trying to do so. It will be awhile until camps have realistic regimes down.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Work Friend Keven posted:

drat kind of messed up for the weigh ins to duck khabib like this. They're probably scared of him. Jagshemash!

this also

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
Give Lando a rematch with Tony for the interim belt

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

Lord Waffle Beard posted:

Ever since the early weigh ins were instated there has been roughly 1 million more problems with people missing weight

Yeah. I kinda think fighters should be allowed to opt-in or out of the earlier weigh-ins. Some fighters enjoy waking up near target weight and getting it all over with while some fat guys like Johny Hendricks need the extra couple hours they used to get.

I mean they should try to get rid of weight cutting altogether, but if they won't do that, at least let some fighters have a choice.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Lloyd Boner posted:

Give Lando a rematch with Tony for the interim belt

They seriously should, Vannata gave him his toughest fight in forever and it was on like 2 weeks notice in his UFC debut, it was also a really good fight

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Nate vs fergs would be sick as gently caress. Sicker than khabib.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Sounds like Michael Johnson could be stepping in on short notice.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Le Saboteur posted:

Sounds like Michael Johnson could be stepping in on short notice. https://twitter.com/FollowTheMenace

johnsons like a good striker isnt he? could b fun

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
hes mentally weak

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD

...and the pitch! posted:

All he's offered is steroid cheats tho. Should he drop out of the UFC?

Ideally

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
LW champion Conor mcgregors wins in the last 30 months

Alvarez
Diaz
Aldo
Mendes
Siver
Poirier
Brandao

Khabib Sagdiev "Lalala you will never get this (title shot)"s wins in the same time period

Johnson
Darel Horcher

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Bubba Smith posted:

Yeah. I kinda think fighters should be allowed to opt-in or out of the earlier weigh-ins. Some fighters enjoy waking up near target weight and getting it all over with while some fat guys like Johny Hendricks need the extra couple hours they used to get.

Johny Hendricks could also fix this problem by not eating like a moron

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
Fighting 1.8 times a year like a lot of top guys do because they make good money and want decent fights with some off time is a lot different than accepting 3 fights a year and fighting 1.4 times a year like borat does.

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

I.N.R.I posted:

johnsons like a good striker isnt he? could b fun

Johnson beat Ferguson with his superior striking years ago. That might be a good enough reason for Tony Ferguson to accept the match, but I don't blame him if he declines the offer.

To clarify what Le Saboteur is talking about, apparently this isn't just a fighter calling out Tony on twitter; UFC is involved and trying to get the fight made.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
johnsons got talent and skill but he finds ways to lose

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Auron posted:

If he fought two times a year, whatever, but he averages far less than two fights a year and pulls out left and right. Its not good, its bad.

Also Mark Hunt is a moron and I hope Overeem punches his stupid face in so he'll at least temporarily shut the gently caress up about steroids.

why are you mad about steroids..

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Sad.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT
God I do not like Johny Hendricks

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Auron posted:


Also Mark Hunt is a moron and I hope Overeem punches his stupid face in so he'll at least temporarily shut the gently caress up about steroids.

The dude has a legit point about fighting people who constantly test positive, including the downright corrupt treatment Brock got in being allowed to compete with a no testing window before hand clause because he signed last minute special circumstances rule. I would be mad as hell as well if I went through some of the wars that he has done only to find out they would of been walk in the parks had the other guy not been cheating and the UFC had not done enough to protect me from that unfair brain damage. Overeem was blatantly roiding, so Mark Hunt has a legit beef.

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.
for the first time I disagree with you on fighter opinions because I like Johny Hendricks quite a lot. especially when he hasn't eaten in 12 hours and is challenging ariel helwani to a cage match

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Bubba Smith posted:

Yeah. I kinda think fighters should be allowed to opt-in or out of the earlier weigh-ins. Some fighters enjoy waking up near target weight and getting it all over with while some fat guys like Johny Hendricks need the extra couple hours they used to get.

I mean they should try to get rid of weight cutting altogether, but if they won't do that, at least let some fighters have a choice.

Fairly certain the ufc doesn't have a stopwatch and a guy with a starters pistol signifying when you can start cutting weight. Johny and others could even start losing weight now if they wanted to for their next fight.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
Legit devastated. And gently caress a Johnson fight when Lando is right there.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

willie_dee posted:

The dude has a legit point about fighting people who constantly test positive, including the downright corrupt treatment Brock got in being allowed to compete with a no testing window before hand clause because he signed last minute special circumstances rule. I would be mad as hell as well if I went through some of the wars that he has done only to find out they would of been walk in the parks had the other guy not been cheating and the UFC had not done enough to protect me from that unfair brain damage. Overeem was blatantly roiding, so Mark Hunt has a legit beef.

agreed. which is why i forgive father dog for ducking you

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Marching Powder posted:

Legit devastated. And gently caress a Johnson fight when Lando is right there.

Good news ... lando is fighting in ufc 209

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
I like Mark Hunt, but these unwarranted attacks on the greatest natural athlete of our time do nothing but harm the cause he thinks he's fighting for

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Bubba Smith posted:

for the first time I disagree with you on fighter opinions because I like Johny Hendricks quite a lot. especially when he hasn't eaten in 12 hours and is challenging ariel helwani to a cage match

it's better when he challenges him to a weight cutting competition

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

Eat This Glob posted:

Fairly certain the ufc doesn't have a stopwatch and a guy with a starters pistol signifying when you can start cutting weight. Johny and others could even start losing weight now if they wanted to for their next fight.

yes and no. they could lose weight now and make the actual weight cut easier, of course, but nobody is going to do that because we like seeing the most muscular guys we can punch each other. that's why we spend money on UFC. Nobody wants to see average body johny hendricks step into the octagon.

Athletic commissions & UFC sort of do have a stopwatch and starter pistol when fighters begin cutting weight. usually it begins when they arrive in town for the fights a few days before the fight and speeds up as they closer to weigh-ins. The earlier deadline clearly fucks with a lot of dudes who used to use every available hour on the final day. There are simply fewer hours now to do the final part of the cut, which is a problem for a lot of guys out there.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

does fatherdog not post anymore?

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

NeatHeteroDude posted:

does fatherdog not post anymore?

not since willie dee challenged him to chessboxing

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

Bubba Smith posted:

yes and no. they could lose weight now and make the actual weight cut easier, of course, but nobody is going to do that because we like seeing the most muscular guys we can punch each other. that's why we spend money on UFC. Nobody wants to see average body johny hendricks step into the octagon.

Athletic commissions & UFC sort of do have a stopwatch and starter pistol when fighters begin cutting weight. usually it begins when they arrive in town for the fights a few days before the fight and speeds up as they closer to weigh-ins. The earlier deadline clearly fucks with a lot of dudes who used to use every available hour on the final day. There are simply fewer hours now to do the final part of the cut, which is a problem for a lot of guys out there.

You could just start your water/sodium cycling 9 hours earlier, or arrive in Vegas 9 hours earlier, or start your camp 9 hours earlier. It's not that big of a deal, and lots of people missed weight before early weigh ins. Is there evidence to suggest a higher proportion of fighters are missing weight now, and can we decouple that from usada's increased controls?

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Bubba Smith posted:

Nobody wants to see average body johny hendricks step into the octagon.

speak for yourself

Zwachro
Mar 7, 2003
C808BEA

NeatHeteroDude posted:

does fatherdog not post anymore?
fatherdog got himself banned and is not interested in coming back.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



:smith:

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Also, crucially, does anyone know why he was hospitalized

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manyak
Jan 26, 2006
Yeah early weigh ins doesnt really mess with the mechanics of the actual weight cut at all, as long as you arrive there a couple days before the fight you have plenty of time to do the actual water cut, the only issue is I'd imagine guys are trying to cut a little extra weight because they think they have more time to rehydrate

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