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Ainsley McTree posted:I see that all the time in minimum wage arguments too. Like "why should these burger flipping morons get $15/hour when i had to eat poo poo forever growing up and just barely avoided living on the streets?? They're supposed to be teenagers anyway" Looking at in state tuition in 1976 you could pay for an entire year with a full time job in about 14 weeks making minimum wage. In 2007 it took 47 weeks of full time minimum wage labor to attend the same school. Telling people this occasionally get's them to drop the subject for a while at least.
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Who What Now posted:I think he meant a merry-go-round.
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Guavanaut posted:That's the one with the horses. That's a carousel.
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Who What Now posted:I think he meant a merry-go-round. Someone missed the boat in not calling roundabouts this.
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Ramadu posted:what?? https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=roundabout+kids&* Must be the UK word?
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TerminalSaint posted:That's a carousel. No that's a horsey fun time spin spin. edit: galliope TGLT fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:I see that all the time in minimum wage arguments too. Like "why should these burger flipping morons get $15/hour when i had to eat poo poo forever growing up and just barely avoided living on the streets?? They're supposed to be teenagers anyway" "Well, them college kids shouldn't be wasting their lives getting a gender studies degree. They should be learning a trade like that one oper singer from QVC said." *Shop teachers leave education due to low funding and lack of support from admin and parents* *Completely ignores role of unions in the trades* *Doesn't realize a lot of trade jobs rely on networking instead of job postings, like most careers*
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okay there's a buzzfeed guy in the middle of a "Proud Boys" rally right now and it's loving amazing, fistfights breaking out, 70 year old white men wielding 2x4s, dudes with motorcycle helmets and wooden shields.. Not a single one is from berkley, but eventually the white guys found out that proud boys are pro-milo, and it devolved quickly  https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeedNe...488665004616798
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Forceholy posted:"Well, them college kids shouldn't be wasting their lives getting a gender studies degree. They should be learning a trade like that one oper singer from QVC said." I just adore the assumption that every single person who goes to college majors in a useless degree and that's why millenials aren't doing well. Hell I have a CS degree with a math minor and it still took me eight drat months to find a job.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just adore the assumption that every single person who goes to college majors in a useless degree and that's why millenials aren't doing well. Hell I have a CS degree with a math minor and it still took me eight drat months to find a job.
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TerminalSaint posted:That's a carousel. No, that's where we send old people. 
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TGLT posted:No that's a horsey fun time spin spin. edit: galliope Gyroscopic equine amusement apparatus. The road one is called a "death circle".
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Selachian posted:No, that's where we send old people. I wish!
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boner confessor posted:*votes for accelerationism* You got those backwards.
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I have a coworker who had a little brother die from a playground roundabout. Apparently the holes they were dug in were big enough to hop under. Little brother hopped in and when the mechanism spins, there's a pinch point (well... more of a crush point) that you couldn't escape. So yeah, your aunt survived her childhood, but not everyone did.
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I feel face first off a slide once onto some nice rough asphalt that made up all the ground of our school's play area at that time, luckily I was in like 2nd or 3rd grade so it didn't really do that much damage
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seiferguy posted:I have a coworker who had a little brother die from a playground roundabout. Apparently the holes they were dug in were big enough to hop under. Little brother hopped in and when the mechanism spins, there's a pinch point (well... more of a crush point) that you couldn't escape. So yeah, your aunt survived her childhood, but not everyone did.
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lancemantis posted:I feel face first off a slide once onto some nice rough asphalt that made up all the ground of our school's play area at that time, luckily I was in like 2nd or 3rd grade so it didn't really do that much damage Didn't do that much damage? Have you seen your posting?
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I don't understand the pointless cruelty of a mindset that despises simple, inexpensive, effective safety mechanisms. I guess if you believe that the world is inherently dangerous and that we are shielding children from "learning their lesson" and being more careful... However, I don't understand the lesson to be learned from, for example, getting shattered vertebrae when you're in an accident inside a car without a seatbelt. "Remember to wear your seat belt!" (oh wait, there is no seatbelt). "Walk instead!" "Drive more carefully!" (but I'm six years old and won't be able to drive for ten more years). I think the lesson they would like people to learn is: "The world is unsafe. Don't even try to improve it. Don't be a pussy. Fear minorities. Buy a gun."
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It's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TtGQnyPZ6g Combined with the idea (probably best articulated by Douglas Adams) that anything developed before you were born is a natural part of the way the world works, things that are new between 15 and 35 are exciting changes, and everything post-35 is of the devil.
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Edible Hat posted:I don't understand the pointless cruelty of a mindset that despises simple, inexpensive, effective safety mechanisms. I guess if you believe that the world is inherently dangerous and that we are shielding children from "learning their lesson" and being more careful... However, I don't understand the lesson to be learned from, for example, getting shattered vertebrae when you're in an accident inside a car without a seatbelt. "Remember to wear your seat belt!" (oh wait, there is no seatbelt). "Walk instead!" "Drive more carefully!" (but I'm six years old and won't be able to drive for ten more years). I think the lesson they would like people to learn is: "The world is unsafe. Don't even try to improve it. Don't be a pussy. Fear minorities. Buy a gun." It's political correctness gone mad! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99s19HBs-6A Also in the "The world is unsafe. Don't even try to improve it." genre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8op1VGu-nvY
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just adore the assumption that every single person who goes to college majors in a useless degree and that's why millenials aren't doing well. Hell I have a CS degree with a math minor and it still took me eight drat months to find a job. That's because you got a useless degree instead of something practical you can use in a trade like programming.
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I don't know about the job market right now, but for a while I think Marine Biologists were having a much easier time finding jobs than architects. Turns out that marine biology involves a lot more than playing with dolphins, there's a lot of money in aquaculture, and who the hell wants to hire an architect during a housing crash?
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Edible Hat posted:I don't understand the pointless cruelty of a mindset that despises simple, inexpensive, effective safety mechanisms. I guess if you believe that the world is inherently dangerous and that we are shielding children from "learning their lesson" and being more careful... However, I don't understand the lesson to be learned from, for example, getting shattered vertebrae when you're in an accident inside a car without a seatbelt. "Remember to wear your seat belt!" (oh wait, there is no seatbelt). "Walk instead!" "Drive more carefully!" (but I'm six years old and won't be able to drive for ten more years). I think the lesson they would like people to learn is: "The world is unsafe. Don't even try to improve it. Don't be a pussy. Fear minorities. Buy a gun." toxic masculinity + just world fallacy
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Edible Hat posted:I don't understand the pointless cruelty of a mindset that despises simple, inexpensive, effective safety mechanisms. I guess if you believe that the world is inherently dangerous and that we are shielding children from "learning their lesson" and being more careful... However, I don't understand the lesson to be learned from, for example, getting shattered vertebrae when you're in an accident inside a car without a seatbelt. "Remember to wear your seat belt!" (oh wait, there is no seatbelt). "Walk instead!" "Drive more carefully!" (but I'm six years old and won't be able to drive for ten more years). I think the lesson they would like people to learn is: "The world is unsafe. Don't even try to improve it. Don't be a pussy. Fear minorities. Buy a gun." There is actually an argument for letting children engage in risks (particularly as part of their play), because this can be a necessary developmental step in allowing them to learn how to manage risk and dangers, as well as how to engage with and cope with fear, anxiety, etc. So it is important not to deny them this opportunity. But, in this context, 'risks' are things that a child can reasonably perceive and estimate in relation to their activities, basically the expected outcomes that they are learning to cope with, and are differentiated from 'hazards', which are dangers that are invisible or or unanticipated to children and therefore do not actually help them to develop anything. So there is an argument for letting kids have, say, merry-go-rounds that they can fall off of or swings they can jump from or letting them run up slides (because they can perceive the risks in these activities and take them into account as they play) but there isn't any reason to expose them to hazards (like merry-go-rounds that will suck you under and kill you). Almost everything on their list is a hazard, because there is no reasonable way for a kid to anticipate and manage the dangers of second-hand smoke or a car crash.
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Ashcans posted:but there isn't any reason to expose them to hazards (like merry-go-rounds that will suck you under and kill you). This is the only important part, the hemming and hawing just lets impressionable types view those lead-paint and childhood-concussion fetishists in a reasonable light. Very few people actually put leashes and safety suits etc on their kids, it's a masturbatory strawman
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Subject: That was a really close call.. Not to appear shallow, but, WOW… did we dodge a bullet, or what ?!?! 
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sweart gliwere posted:
No but see if one person does it then that means all the people that agree with that person on anything ever do it and you should let kids break their legs on merry go rounds because that's how we did it in my day. ^^That's a good point on risk vs. Hazard. I'm gonna use that one the next time I see that in the wild.
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sweart gliwere posted:This is the only important part, the hemming and hawing just lets impressionable types view those lead-paint and childhood-concussion fetishists in a reasonable light. Parents are in a no-win situation, if they use one of those kid leashes they get mocked and judged. If they're carrying around a rather large toddler they get teased about not letting the kid away from mom for a second. If they have a rather large kid in a stroller they get judged (Nevermind the fact that many disabled kids are kept in strollers they can still fit into because it's practical and draws a lot less attention than a little wheelchair would). And if the parent just lets the kids run free, people give them poo poo for not keeping closer tabs on them 
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FCKGW posted:Subject: That was a really close call.. I'm not sure what you are getting at with this post because only one of these 4 women actually was running for office.
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Nevvy Z posted:I'm not sure what you are getting at with this post because only one of these 4 women actually was running for office. Apologizes for posting a forwarded email in the forwarded email thread.
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FCKGW posted:Subject: That was a really close call.. Why yes a woman's value is directly related to her looks and not her accomplishments or intelligence. A Good Forward.
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FCKGW posted:Apologizes for posting a forwarded email in the forwarded email thread. Seems like it's not a political email but a pile of sexist garbage. Maybe you should stop having lovely contacts. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nevvy Z posted:Seems like it's not a political email but a pile of sexist garbage. Maybe you should stop having lovely contacts. What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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PhazonLink posted:Reminder about lead in our environment. Thomas Midgley also helped synthesize the first CFCs, so he also helped break down the ozone layer. So if the crazy olds also have melanoma, there you go.
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e: ^ that's still bad because that means he's the single organism with the most impact on the environment ever. At least till Donnie lets the bombs drop. If a public radio interview with a playground engineer is any indication. American playgrounds are both boring, unsafe, and boring. Other countries have surprisingly high jungle gym caste towers with prop sword sticks and other cool things. Also the engineer said Americans should stfu because we allow kids to go hungry and die from no health insurance.
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Absent safety standards, litigation becomes the only protection the average consumer has. Our lack of regulations leads to law suits which leads to fear of law suits so self-regulation leads to over-regulation.
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Panfilo posted:Parents are in a no-win situation, if they use one of those kid leashes they get mocked and judged. If they're carrying around a rather large toddler they get teased about not letting the kid away from mom for a second. If they have a rather large kid in a stroller they get judged (Nevermind the fact that many disabled kids are kept in strollers they can still fit into because it's practical and draws a lot less attention than a little wheelchair would). Kid leashes look odd but the one time recently I saw one it was used by an elderly person to keep tabs on what was probably a grandchild at the same time as push another one in the stroller. Makes sense to me, an older person can't necessarily run after a fast little toddler.
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Nevvy Z posted:Seems like it's not a political email but a pile of sexist garbage. Maybe you should stop having lovely contacts. It's a random person forwarding these to me. Sorry for posting a sexist email forward about politicians in the political email forwards thread. FCKGW fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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FCKGW posted:It's a random person forwarding these to me. Nah, it's all right. Just next time for the love of god make it a little bit clearer that you're posting junk you got from somebody else, and that you are not just presenting your own thoughts on the bangability of potential White House residents. Though having said that, they are drawing the wrong comparisons. They should either compare POTUS Hillary to POTUS Donald, where frankly it's a bit of a toss-up, or FLOTUS Melania to FLOTUS Bill, where frankly it's still a bit of a toss-up.
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