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Velius posted:Honolulu and St Louis are modern CLs, better than anything the Japanese get except for the Mogami in its CL configuration. That's a really good pair of ships to sink. Yeah, its really odd that they're worth so few points
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i81icu812 posted:Yeah, its really odd that they're worth so few points 40 is quite a bit, worth equal to some Allied Heavy Cruisers.
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4 March 1943 Japanese destroyers Arashio and Asashio, sunk by air attack in the later phases of the Battle of the Bismarck Sea.
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The USS Indiana is the second South Dakota-class battleships that Gray has sunken so far, how many would the Americans have in the Pacific at this point? From what I recall the first one of their class that he sunk last year was treated as a huge success more so than sinking any of the Pearl Harbor battleships.
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Velius posted:Honolulu and St Louis are modern CLs, better than anything the Japanese get except for the Mogami in its CL configuration. That's a really good pair of ships to sink. Indiana is a brand new battleship too, she only entered active service in November 1942.
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Well goddamn.  the US' hopes and dreams. (Where do you think that invasion fleet was going anyway? Guadalcanal?) Mikl fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mikl posted:(Where do you think that invasion fleet was going anyway? Guadalcanal?) To the briny deep at this rate.
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Well, drat! Banzai doctrine and trusting blindly in luck looks to be written into naval doctrine for the forseeable future.Mikl posted:(Where do you think that invasion fleet was going anyway? Guadalcanal?) E: That or Tulagi, I would have thought? I mean, much further west and the TF goes back into a nice big empty stretch of ocean for a few days and I can't imagine the Allied AI would do that.
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Serpentis posted:Well, drat! Banzai doctrine and trusting blindly in luck looks to be written into naval doctrine for the forseeable future. ATL naval academy is just a giant casino filled with slot machines & roulette tables. Flag ranks are determined by how well you can roll a d20.
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TildeATH posted:ATL naval academy is just a giant casino filled with slot machines & roulette tables. Flag ranks are determined by how well you can roll a d20. Promotions are earned via challenging your direct superior to a coin flip, best two out of three, loser commits seppuku
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Half a year from now the Allies will find themselves without ships and Grey will find himself without airplanes and then fuckin what.
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So let me get this straight. Maybe... carriers good?
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aphid_licker posted:Half a year from now the Allies will find themselves without ships and Grey will find himself without airplanes and then fuckin what. Grey will move on to round 2 which is the real war: The Japanese Army vs The Japanese Navy.
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Hell of a day Grey, though I'm still mystified how your attackers have -supply. Also can we guess which grand strategy the AI chose at the beginning of the game?
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aphid_licker posted:Half a year from now the Allies will find themselves without ships and Grey will find himself without airplanes and then fuckin what. The battleship will finally stand alone.
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It's still too early to celebrate the death of the USN and the likely survival of Japan through 1946 (let's just be glad the US deadline isn't through 1947). Need to sink another 6 Essexes and 4 replacement Yorktowns without severe losses of our own carriers, and we'll see the light at the end of the tunnel. Its doable, and Grey is really bringing home the bacon... I guess it'll come down to whether he can keep his roll going as US carrier planes keep improving. At least their pilots will be inexperienced. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Are there subs in this area too or are they all around pearl?
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Looking forward to the bloodbath tomorrow. Don't stop until every ship is sunk.
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TENNOHEIKA BANZAI! 
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RA Rx posted:It's still too early to celebrate the death of the USN and the likely survival of Japan through 1946 (let's just be glad the US deadline isn't through 1947). Need to sink another 6 Essexes and 4 replacement Yorktowns without severe losses of our own carriers, and we'll see the light at the end of the tunnel. On the flip side, how is IJN shipbuilding? Is it on the level of "Some losses may be replaceable" or still "Don't lose anything kthanksbye"? Figures at least something's been butterflied even if it's just a DD or two.
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algebra testes posted:So let me get this straight. The carriers would have never made that attack if the courageous battleships hadn't secured the seas first
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FourCartridge posted:On the flip side, how is IJN shipbuilding? Is it on the level of "Some losses may be replaceable" or still "Don't lose anything kthanksbye"? Figures at least something's been butterflied even if it's just a DD or two. Among other things the IJN never gets another heavy cruiser I believe, and probably no battleships either. Attrition is bad!
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RZApublican posted:The USS Indiana is the second South Dakota-class battleships that Gray has sunken so far, how many would the Americans have in the Pacific at this point? From what I recall the first one of their class that he sunk last year was treated as a huge success more so than sinking any of the Pearl Harbor battleships. The US starts with the following USN BBs: Arizona California Colorado Maryland Nevada Oklahoma Pennsylvania Tennessee West Virginia By Mar 4 1943, they will have received the following other USN BBs: New Mexico - arrived on Jan-22-1942 South Dakota - arrived on Aug-21-1942 Washington - arrived on Aug-28-1942 Massachusetts - arrived on Feb-21-1943 (South Dakota-class BBs are bolded) There are 8 more USN BBs to enter the theater within the scope of the game. The next arrival will be the Alabama, on Aug-25-1943 The last BB to arrive will be the Texas, on Dec-3-1944 I will also make special note that the CB Alaska will arrive in-theater on Jan-16-1945, followed by the CB Guam on Feb-16-1945 EDIT: Updated the list with Jobbo_Fett's count. That means there are still 13 USN BBs out there. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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When do the Iowa-class vessels arrive? Are they as horrifying as I expect they will be?
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Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, and North Carolina are sunk. Also, by this time 1943, the Japanese still have the following in terms of reinforcements: No BB's No CA's 4 CL's 9 CV/CVL's 6 CVE's
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David Corbett posted:When do the Iowa-class vessels arrive? Are they as horrifying as I expect they will be? The Iowa arrives in-theater on Jan-2-1944 followed by the New Jersey on Jan-7-1944 and the Wisconsin on Sep-30-1944 and finally the Missouri on Nov-18-1944
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, and North Carolina are sunk. didnt gh cancel a bunch of ships?
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i81icu812 posted:didnt gh cancel a bunch of ships? Maybe? I thought he wasn't this time around.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Maybe? I thought he wasn't this time around. Three carriers for 1945 are cancelled. I doubt I will need them, and they are to far off to see any real action. The Junyo is accelerated, another fleet carrier in the next few months will be useful.
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i81icu812 posted:Three carriers for 1945 are cancelled. I doubt I will need them, and they are to far off to see any real action. The Junyo is accelerated, another fleet carrier in the next few months will be useful. A poor decision, that's at least two months of action they could be participating in!
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Besides the battleships, how is the American cruiser and do replacements? Could grey just murder all the escorts for carriers? Then with even 50 CVES they are fairly dead if they are piecing through.
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Wow, congrats Grey! Dead BB, two dead Light Cruisers, the other heavies are either probably dead in the water and going down in the next coule of days or fleeing back to port.
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So about 30 unprotected ships heading straight into the gaping jaw of the Imperial war machine, will be interesting to see how this goes wrong. Is ramming an option available to the AI?
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Secretly hoping that the American BB's thrash the foolish and wasteful Japanese flattops.
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whitewhale posted:So about 30 unprotected ships heading straight into the gaping jaw of the Imperial war machine, will be interesting to see how this goes wrong. Herp's LP is thataway *points towards the sound of buckling hull metal*
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, and North Carolina are sunk. And the allies will get a total of: 15 BBs (6 British, 1 french, 8 American) 1 BC (British, Renown) 2 CBs 1 CVB "Battle-carrier" 21 CVs 18 CVLs 82 CVEs 15 CAs 36 CLs 9 CLAAs Lots of Fletcher class DDs! Almost CLs in their own right. Late war Fletcher SAGs are deadly, spraying reliable mk 15 torps everywhere. Countless other DD, DE, PF, KV and other chaff And as we're still in 1943 the special rule for replacements is still in force, so every single sunken American CV will be replaced with an extra Essex-class, and every sunken American or Aussie CA will be replaced with an extra Baltimore CA or Cleveland CL at random. Grey essentialy starts from scratch on january first 1944, only then will every ship sunk be gone for good. No worries. 
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Bold Robot posted:What's the deal with the CVB? Original designation for the Midways; Large Aircraft Carrier.
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From the rules perspective, is it then a better result to heavily damage a USN CV as opposed to sinking it?
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