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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. The Dutch system relies on coalitions and people will erect a cordon sanitaire around Wilders. Rutte will very probably be PM again.
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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. Germany might be electing a left-wing government this year and even if Merkel stays that's much more to the center than a lot of other places.
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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. There's some resistance here and there but the general trend is the same in all of the northern economies.
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Dawncloack posted:It's disgusting but it's also the clearest example of the EU being a tool of class war for shitwolf schäuble. ftfy
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Pochoclo posted:Is there ANY country in the EU left with reasonable politics or is everyone tanking hard to the right? Not tanking hard to the right is forbidden by treaties, so...
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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. Try Greece or Portugal
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Try Greece or Portugal I'm sure Greece is going to be very non-right after the successful dismantling of the alt-left by Schauble. Truly a golden dawn.
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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. Don't kid yourself, there weren't any reasonable or good politics anywhere in the EU to start with. I'm afraid we're all going to eat massive amounts of poo poo, not today, maybe not tomorrow but in the long run we're all hosed.
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https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/838454660092555268
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Ardennes posted:The line between right and far-right are starting to get a bit blurred isn't it. Nah, it's just that the far-right is now called "the right" and the right is now called "the left".
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https://twitter.com/lesRepublicains/status/838471220085542915 "Nobody has the power to prevent me from being a candidate, nobody has the power to make me withdraw my candidacy." This train has no brakes!
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https://twitter.com/franceinfo/status/838471329695346688 Fillon apparently claimed that TV news channels reported that his wife committed suicide on Wednesday morning. As you might guess from the fact that French Twitter (and this thread) didn't blow up at the time, that's not true.
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Macron must have spent most of this evening rubbing his hands with glee.
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Kurtofan posted:fake news 
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Pochoclo posted:So after some depressing myself in the UKMT I entered Nederpol because I was thinking "hey maybe Amsterdam will be a choice after UK collapses", and I see they're going to elect some idiot anti-immigration xenophobe, huh. Been electing him for 11 years now, we've also been electing fundamentalist Christians who think the bible is the only good basis for laws for 99 years (and what is up with women getting to vote?). Doesn't matter when you have 10+ parties in parliament. Geert Wilders will never be prime minister.
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Fillon also took the time at the rally to assure everyone that he wasn't autistic according to the BBC.
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Jesus, why all pro-kremlin candidates use the same kind of poo poo anti-democratic anti-media anti-justice propaganda i wonder?
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Baron Corbyn posted:Fillon also took the time at the rally to assure everyone that he wasn't autistic according to the BBC. He's such a goon.
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He didn't do it only at the rally he did it 3 times at a tv interview on public tv, drove french twitter insane. Also when asked where they read the "his wife committed suicide" all his supporters refuse to answer. It's a 100% guaranteed political suicide/trump emulation attempt if you ask me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwedrTAsG-E
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Why is he telling people he isn't autistic anyway? Was that ever suggested before he started bringing it up?
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Baron Corbyn posted:Why is he telling people he isn't autistic anyway? Was that ever suggested before he started bringing it up? *who i wonder?  If you wonder the reason those people support fillon over even the rest of his party, it's his open anti-gay(well at least not progay) policies. Le Pen said she wasn't going to stop gay marriage and that their fight was obsolete so they are taking over the non-far right for once. It may cause some internal fight inside the fn between the aunt and the niece. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:Juppé has explicitly announced that he will not step in as a replacement candidate if Fillon withdraws, so I guess either Fillon now fights it out to the bitter end or they parachute in Baroin and hope for the best. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/franceinfo/status/838692105849618433 They're really rallying up behind Baroin, which I find super baffling because the one thing that would be worse for the right than sitting there watching as Fillon's support slowly dwindles away as it becomes clearer and clearer the guy is a crook would be to put Baroin out there, one because that invalidates the primary, two because Baroin is a placeholder that basically means nothing to no one. It would basically be an open invitation for Macron and Le Pen to come and take their voters. Or who knows? Maybe it demoralizes the right's electorate entirely and Hamon could make something happen. Going forward with Fillon is a bad idea, but every other idea is worse now that Juppé's out.
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Kassad posted:He's such a goon. hashtag i'mwithhim
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Kurtofan posted:Nicolas reviens Si tu reviens, j'annule tout !
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OK I keep telling everyone to come to Portugal but I should stop - Gentrification in Lisbon is going loving insane. gently caress golden visas. I've seen small 1 bedroom apartments for €375k. Guys, please don't come here!
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orange sky posted:OK I keep telling everyone to come to Portugal but I should stop - Gentrification in Lisbon is going loving insane. gently caress golden visas. I've seen small 1 bedroom apartments for €375k.
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Hambilderberglar posted:They did say the Euro was going to lead to price convergences. Now you too can experience the hot hot property markets of cities in Northern Europe, right from the comfort of your couch. It's almost like deregulating the construction business (less NIMBYism, less "we have to protect this rare animal", less corruption) would not only relax the situation in the housing market, but also provide jobs for low qualified workers.
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orange sky posted:OK I keep telling everyone to come to Portugal but I should stop - Gentrification in Lisbon is going loving insane. gently caress golden visas. I've seen small 1 bedroom apartments for €375k. How much does it rent for a month, though? Until it reaches a bargain 1500eur/month for a 1bed in an ok area you haven't really experienced the joys of Northern Europe.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's almost like deregulating the construction business (less NIMBYism, less "we have to protect this rare animal", less corruption) would not only relax the situation in the housing market, but also provide jobs for low qualified workers.
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orange sky posted:OK I keep telling everyone to come to Portugal but I should stop - Gentrification in Lisbon is going loving insane. gently caress golden visas. I've seen small 1 bedroom apartments for €375k. It's those loving hostels and airbnb poo poo. They're everywhere, and is probably going to get worse after Porto being winning "Best tourism city 2016" poo poo award and the Lisbon Ghandi getting his feelings hurt. More airports! More Hotels! More city taxes! Soon you'll go to easyjet and you'll just see Lisbon as an hotel, not an actual destination.
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Hambilderberglar posted:Please, explain how any one of these are the most pressing problems standing in the way of cheaper construction, and how repealing them would be a meaningful step on the way to more affordable housing. Well, it's pretty easy. At it's core the construction of housing is an investment, which means the lowered cost, through less expensive planning processes, and the availability of more construction space, through the reduction of red tape, will result in more housing being constructed. At some point it will be more profitable to build cheap housing (unless renter protection is too strong, in which case that needs to be reformed too) than expensive housing, simply through the law of supply and demand, which will result in more affordable housing overall, unless your assumption is that cheap housing is always unprofitable because of labor and material cost, but I view this assumption as highly unlikely, given that property prices outside the major urban centers are much lower. The current interest rate climate would only reinforce this development, so it would probably be important to have some safeguard, as the market otherwise would be likely to overheat/create a bubble again.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's almost like deregulating the construction business (less NIMBYism, less "we have to protect this rare animal", less corruption) would not only relax the situation in the housing market, but also provide jobs for low qualified workers.
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Blut posted:How much does it rent for a month, though? Until it reaches a bargain 1500eur/month for a 1bed in an ok area you haven't really experienced the joys of Northern Europe. Depends on the quality of the appartment. A lovely one bedroom in the old parts of the city or in an old building might still go for around 400 - 500 euros. But then you have this bullshit: https://www.idealista.pt/imovel/28110495/ So yeah, we're not there yet, but I don't think it's really comparable when we have a 540€ minimum wage.
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ElNarez posted:They're really rallying up behind Baroin, which I find super baffling because the one thing that would be worse for the right than sitting there watching as Fillon's support slowly dwindles away as it becomes clearer and clearer the guy is a crook would be to put Baroin out there, one because that invalidates the primary, two because Baroin is a placeholder that basically means nothing to no one. It would basically be an open invitation for Macron and Le Pen to come and take their voters. Or who knows? Maybe it demoralizes the right's electorate entirely and Hamon could make something happen.
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Electronico6 posted:It's those loving hostels and airbnb poo poo. They're everywhere, and is probably going to get worse after Porto being winning "Best tourism city 2016" poo poo award and the Lisbon Ghandi getting his feelings hurt. More airports! More Hotels! More city taxes! Soon you'll go to easyjet and you'll just see Lisbon as an hotel, not an actual destination.
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