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The charging port is on the bottom so the Switch can slide into the dock and charge. It's not that mysterious. Still sucks for tabletop mode.
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The port is on the bottom so it can dock, and so there is space on top for the fans. we had this discussion like three pages ago guys. The switch can charge in its two most used positions.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:31
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Drunk Tomato posted:The port is on the bottom so it can dock, and so there is space on top for the fans. we had this discussion like three pages ago guys. The switch can charge in its two most used positions. It wouldnt have been hard to engineer it with contacts like the wiiu tablet(which could dock and had an alternate charging port). So it worked in all 3 advertized play modes. But since you talked about it already I guess its a settled matter and everything is forgiven.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:37
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So anyone who bought the 20 dollar screen protector from Hori may want to get a refund. It appears those ones have an issue when the Switch heats up and the protector lifts itself off. The regular 10 dollar doesn't have this issue from the looks of things. I've played a poo poo ton of Zelda yesterday and it's still there.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:40
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The USB port also transmits the video signal.Bombadilillo posted:But since you talked about it already I guess its a settled matter and everything is forgiven. 
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Mar 5, 2017 22:41
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Bombadilillo posted:It wouldnt have been hard to engineer it with contacts like the wiiu tablet(which could dock and had an alternate charging port). So it worked in all 3 advertized play modes. Pretty much this. No reason not to just have contacts on the bottom. Or allow the UI to flip upside down.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:41
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Bombadilillo posted:It wouldnt have been hard to engineer it with contacts like the wiiu tablet(which could dock and had an alternate charging port). So it worked in all 3 advertized play modes. I've already seen some early 3D printed stands, sure it sucks that they could have came up with a solution for all orientations but there's going to be a shitload of solutions out there with in a month or two. Also the New Switch or whatever will probably address this
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Mar 5, 2017 22:42
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Modus Pwnens posted:The USB port also transmits the video signal. I think everyone else is forgetting this detail in this discussion.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:44
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LethalGeek posted:I think everyone else is forgetting this detail in this discussion. So then just put connection pins on the bottom of the unit and a single solid state switch that disables the top charging port when it's docked.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:45
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I'll admit I don't know this in detail but relying on contact pins for a 1080p signal seems like a very bad idea
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Mar 5, 2017 22:47
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Protip: Instead of applying a crappy/ugly screenprotector, I took some 2x2cm adhesive feltpads (meant for sticking under table- or chairlegs or whathaveyou to not scratch up your hardwood floor or whatever) and stuck three of them beside each rail in the dock.  (sorry for the lovely picture, just so you can get an idea what it looks like) They are high enough so they stick out like .5 mm past the rail and the Switch itself glides in there like a charm.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:48
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Nintendo should just release a new dock with the wall in front of the screen is only 1" or 2" tall and is just there to support the bottom of the console. Or have the USB-c plug on the the bottom of the dock on a swivel so you put the switch down and then it leans back a few degrees so it doesn't fall forward. Bam, same support with no screen scratching. They can still have air ports at the bottom too, plus air could travel in from the front and under the console to the air inlets on the back. The screen turns off anyway, so no need to have that wall. Much more like the WiiU cradle.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:49
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LethalGeek posted:I'll admit I don't know this in detail but relying on contact pins for a 1080p signal seems like a very bad idea why? I have used contact pins in the past for 1080p signals before. Edit* 1080p30 is 2MB/s. USB 2.0 is more than capable of handling it. Heck, this thing has USB 3.0.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:49
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UntunedGuitar47 posted:Protip: Instead of applying a crappy/ugly screenprotector, I took some 2x2cm adhesive feltpads (meant for sticking under table- or chairlegs or whathaveyou to not scratch up your hardwood floor or whatever) and stuck three of them beside each rail in the dock. This seems like it'd scratch up your screen even faster
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Mar 5, 2017 22:50
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Also why are people trying to play in tabletop mode, aka the worst mode.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:52
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Hace posted:Also why are people trying to play in tabletop mode, aka the worst mode. They shouldn't because you can't charge and play at the same time. Also because the right thumbstick is in a bad position and cramps up your thumb. Also the WiiU gamepad literally has a charging port on the top and contact pins on the bottom for charging as well. There was no excuse for this because they've already done it lmbo.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:53
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ratbert90 posted:why? I have used contact pins in the past for 1080p signals before. That sounds like super compressed Internet streaming bit rates, not that kind that's going to your TV from a local device.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:55
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ratbert90 posted:Pretty much this. No reason not to just have contacts on the bottom. Or allow the UI to flip upside down. Of course there's a reason. You don't have to agree with the solution they chose but it's not like they're just randomly placing things everywhere. Are you that lacking in imagination? Flipping the screen would mean that users would have to the Switch in upside down, which is counterintuitive, and the main emphasis of the system is making that TV to portable to TV transition as smooth as possible. Just lift up the console and one second later you're playing it. When you're done just set it down. Everything about the design is about that experience. Creating a port for charging outside the dock and separate ports for charging and audio/video in dock mode would increase the cost and reduce available space inside the unit for the battery. I'm not saying Nintendo can do no wrong, but they aren't thoughtless.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:56
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ratbert90 posted:They shouldn't because you can't charge and play at the same time. The difference is that the Wii U Gamepad has an enormous amount of hollow space, look at a teardown of one. The Switch is packed tightly.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:56
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LethalGeek posted:I'll admit I don't know this in detail but relying on contact pins for a 1080p signal seems like a very bad idea Contact is contact. Maybe they are worried about it getting dirty or corroded over time. That's a valid concern but it would transmit the signal just as easily. The magnetic usb c nubs you can stick in your phone that connect to a cable so you can't rip it out accidently transmit full speed just fine.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:58
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I cant wait for a $10 madcatz dock for secondary tv's
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Mar 5, 2017 23:00
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the dock should have just been two cords
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Mar 5, 2017 23:00
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LethalGeek posted:That sounds like super compressed Internet streaming bit rates, not that kind that's going to your TV from a local device. USB2 is rated at 60MB/s. It would be just fine. Modus Pwnens posted:Of course there's a reason. You don't have to agree with the solution they chose but it's not like they're just randomly placing things everywhere. Are you that lacking in imagination? What? No, I meant just let the screen rotate if held upside down is all. Also the amount of traces/copper needed to add another port is tiny. Have you ever laid a board out? FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 23:01
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Hace posted:Also why are people trying to play in tabletop mode, aka the worst mode. Its ok for short plays. My wife and I played snipperclips in bed last night, leaned it against my Sheikah Slate case since the kickstand doesn't work on a comforter. I can see putting it on the coffee table and playing if my kid wants to watch Mickey Mouse or whatever. So one of those stands that allows you to charge and play may be nice if you want to keep it on your computer desk to play if your TV is being occupied (and why spend $90 on another dock to play on a second TV... I'd spend $45 if it came with the adapter too).
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Mar 5, 2017 23:02
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ratbert90 posted:USB2 is rated at 60MB/s. It would be just fine. but the fan exhaust is on the top, you don't want that facing downwards
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Mar 5, 2017 23:03
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Hace posted:Also why are people trying to play in tabletop mode, aka the worst mode. Sorry, snuggling up and playing Snipperclips owns.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:05
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ratbert90 posted:USB2 is rated at 60MB/s. It would be just fine. But then you need two kickstands, one for each orientation
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Mar 5, 2017 23:05
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Linx posted:But then you need two kickstands, one for each orientation Or you could just have dock pins and a usb port on top.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:05
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ratbert90 posted:Or you could just have dock pins and a usb port on top. Jesus loving Christ I'm retarded
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Mar 5, 2017 23:06
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ratbert90 posted:USB2 is rated at 60MB/s. It would be just fine. No I was saying yeah Internet streams are like 3mbit but that's wildly less than you're going to do over a 2m copper cable. Those suckers are rated at 10Gbits or more now, there's not a lot of reason to compress a stream over that kinda bandwidth. I wouldn't trust contact pins to maintain that over years of use.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:07
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LethalGeek posted:No I was saying yeah Internet streams are like 3mbit but that's wildly less than you're going to do over a 2m copper cable. Those suckers are rated at 10Gbits or more now, there's not a lot of reason to compress a stream over that kinda bandwidth. I wouldn't trust contact pins to maintain that over years of use. I would and have.  This thing has USB3, it's more than capable of producing and transferring high-quality video with a huge bitrate. Heck, if you don't want pins on the bottom then just put another port on the bottom. But pins are fine and work fine.
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UntunedGuitar47 posted:Protip: Instead of applying a crappy/ugly screenprotector, I took some 2x2cm adhesive feltpads (meant for sticking under table- or chairlegs or whathaveyou to not scratch up your hardwood floor or whatever) and stuck three of them beside each rail in the dock. Bear in mind that felt can and will catch dust and debris over time which may also contribute to wear and tear in the long run. Might be worth considering to replace this felt every now and then as well.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:09
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I'm glad the right thumbstick doesn't cause me any hand pain.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:09
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I'm afraid of going into the Zelda thread because of spoilers. If you haven't yet, go and try to rush the castle. Goddamn.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:21
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I had to fight the temptation to go straight to Hyrule Castle, but I'm looking forward to watching people head straight there for a speedrun or something I made it to Zora's Domain an hour ago though, after much dicking around early in the morning. This game is god drat amazing
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Mar 5, 2017 23:24
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Inzombiac posted:I'm afraid of going into the Zelda thread because of spoilers. I caved and started reading it, people are actually being really good about spoiler tags but ymmv.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:39
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Inzombiac posted:I'm afraid of going into the Zelda thread because of spoilers. I got maybe 3/4 of the way there from the plateau and was rudely turned away by spoilery stuff.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:49
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I'm not touching the Zelda Thread same reason. For those wondering how the game is? It's a masterpiece.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:53
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Dropping Zelda on the Wii U gives the Wii U credibility for having possibly one of the best games ever on it
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I just made a Japanese Nintendo Account and linked it to my Switch. Now how am I gonna go about adding funds so I can get Waku Waku 7 and Metal Slug 3? I'm operating under the impression that you can't just use a debit or credit card to buy what you want, but if anyone can point out otherwise, that'd be a big help
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