NBA March GDT: Not featuring Lowray, Embide, or Durrant

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Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

The Lakers are what the Pelicans needed to finally get a win it's starting to look like but even then they were down at the half.

The Pels look so unorganized on offense and defense since the trade. I plan to give them a full 10 games before I really make any conclusions, though.

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Brolander: Oct 20, 2008; i am but a vessel

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

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# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:17

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Kibner posted:

The Pels look so unorganized on offense and defense since the trade. I plan to give them a full 10 games before I really make any conclusions, though.

It definitely takes time to integrate a star player into an NBA offense.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:28

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Kibner posted:

The Pels look so unorganized on offense and defense since the trade. I plan to give them a full 10 games before I really make any conclusions, though.

Yeah I'm not too worried about them, other than the fact that there just isn't much season left.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:33

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Crazy Ted posted:

It definitely takes time to integrate a star player into an NBA offense.

Their defense is all discombobulated, too, because they are no longer able to use the switch everything style defense they had been all year (once Asik and Ajinca fell out of the rotation, anyway).

As it is, it looks like they run one type of offense when just Davis is in, one when it's just Cousins, and a third when it's both.

The defense changes depending on if Boogie is on the court or not.

A whole bunch of miscommunication on both ends and a lot more awkward, uncomfortable possessions on offense compared to before the trade.

I expected this, which is why I won't start sweating about it until they get another four or five games together under their belt.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:36

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

Yeah I'm not too worried about them, other than the fact that there just isn't much season left.

Once it became obvious things wouldn't instantly click (that Rockets game), I basically accepted they wouldn't make the playoffs.

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Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

And since I didn't think they had a great shot at the playoffs, I got angry about Casspi's release after his injury.

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Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Wide open corner three: miss

Repeat x10

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Wow what happened it was a like. 15 point deficit last time I looked?

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:45

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Kibner posted:

And since I didn't think they had a great shot at the playoffs, I got angry about Casspi's release after his injury.

I don't remember Casspi's contract situation but I think having him next year would've been nice even if he was done for the season.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:46

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

Wow what happened it was a like. 15 point deficit last time I looked?

Look above and add that to some made 3s from the Lakers.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:46

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

I don't remember Casspi's contract situation but I think having him next year would've been nice even if he was done for the season.

He was going to be a rfa in the offseason.

E: and I agree with you

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:47

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

David Wesley and Joel Meyers aren't quite sold on Russell being the lead guard for the Lakers.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 05:54

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

It is the popular talking point these days but if you look at the numbers the Lakers are much better when he is on the floor. Also his post all star numbers are great. Looks like he had a rough shooting night though.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 06:05

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

It is the popular talking point these days but if you look at the numbers the Lakers are much better when he is on the floor. Also his post all star numbers are great. Looks like he had a rough shooting night though.

They like him, just not for running the offense long term. They would prefer him as a big shooting guard paired with another guard who has excellent playmaking skills that he can work off of while also being a secondary ball-handler.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 06:17

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Kibner posted:

They like him, just not for running the offense long term. They would prefer him as a big shooting guard paired with another guard who has excellent playmaking skills that he can work off of while also being a secondary ball-handler.

I was a bit rushed but this was what I was trying to respond to. The Lakers score more and pass more when Russell is on the floor largely because he is pretty good at running an offense. When the Lakers struggle to score it's almost always because he's not on the floor. He has a knack for making all the competing and contrasting playing styles of the Lakers starters actually work together.

It's an argument whose origin is people who are trying to make an argument for the Lakers drafting Lonzo Ball even though he's really only going to be able to play the position that Lakers have covered (at least with their starting lineup . . . drafting him to be a backup to me is stupid in a draft with so much guard depth) at the moment. I don't think Russell would be completely lost at two if the Lakers are in position to draft a PG as BPA, but I think they're not using one of his best talents at that point.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 11:13

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Kibner posted:

He was going to be a rfa in the offseason.

E: and I agree with you

Yeah the situation was that they at least have his bird rights and should've waived someone less good like pondexter since the pelicans are capped out?

# ? Mar 6, 2017 11:17

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

I think judging a PG (especially one who is responsible for running the offense or being a playmaker) before he's had several NBA seasons is really hard. A lot of them don't hit their stride until year 4 or 5.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 13:21

BIZORT: Jan 24, 2003

With some guys you can see that they'll get it eventually. DeAngelo seems that way to me, whereas Elfrid Payton does not

# ? Mar 6, 2017 14:56

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Tae posted:

Yeah the situation was that they at least have his bird rights and should've waived someone less good like pondexter since the pelicans are capped out?

I think they wanted to keep Pondexter as a small salary match for a trade? I dunno. I don't like the move. As far as being capped out, here are some decent articles on their options:

Using cap room

Operating above the cap

Jrue walks

# ? Mar 6, 2017 15:11

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

I was a bit rushed but this was what I was trying to respond to. The Lakers score more and pass more when Russell is on the floor largely because he is pretty good at running an offense. When the Lakers struggle to score it's almost always because he's not on the floor. He has a knack for making all the competing and contrasting playing styles of the Lakers starters actually work together.

It's an argument whose origin is people who are trying to make an argument for the Lakers drafting Lonzo Ball even though he's really only going to be able to play the position that Lakers have covered (at least with their starting lineup . . . drafting him to be a backup to me is stupid in a draft with so much guard depth) at the moment. I don't think Russell would be completely lost at two if the Lakers are in position to draft a PG as BPA, but I think they're not using one of his best talents at that point.

They were just upset with his decision making and shot selection and felt a top-end guard that is more careful with the ball when initiating the offense would help Russell be a better player. They talked about him as the best Laker on the floor and that he is still learning the hardest offensive position.

A better Fisher is basically what it sounded like they wanted to pair him with his Kobe.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 16:40

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

D'Lo didn't have a chance to learn poo poo last year so imo this is his first real year in the league anyways. That's clearly ironclad logic and it's also how I feel.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 16:45

DeimosRising: Oct 17, 2005; �Hola SEA!

Kibner posted:

They like him, just not for running the offense long term. They would prefer him as a big shooting guard paired with another guard who has excellent playmaking skills that he can work off of while also being a secondary ball-handler.

But he's not big at shooting guard? He's like, average to below average and would need to put on some weight.

# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:27

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

DeimosRising posted:

But he's not big at shooting guard? He's like, average to below average and would need to put on some weight.

I was just trying to explain the broadcasters' opinions and how I think they would defend them. They are just announcers and we all know they are generally wrong!

# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:28

The SituAsian: Oct 29, 2006; I'm a mess in distress
But we're still the best dressed

Wolves-Blazers might be postponed due to a slippery court

# ? Mar 7, 2017 00:53

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

ready for jimmy H and the boys to put the fradulent MVP campaign of kawhi leonard to rest

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Mr Gentleman: Apr 29, 2003; the Educated Villain of London

big dion is 6/7 for 14 and 2 assists in the first quarter

# ? Mar 7, 2017 01:30

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd