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Interacting with the WA devs has been a breath of fresh air. They at least have a goal in mind and are quickly working towards it. But here we are in AO redesigning the redesign of the redesign. I have zero faith this will release, and if it does it will be released in whatever redesign phase they are currently in regardless of whether or not it accurately reflects their design goals. We're really living in a pie chart world here.
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forge posted:Interacting with the WA devs has been a breath of fresh air. They at least have a goal in mind and are quickly working towards it. But here we are in AO redesigning the redesign of the redesign. I have zero faith this will release, and if it does it will be released in whatever redesign phase they are currently in regardless of whether or not it accurately reflects their design goals. What is WA?
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# ? Mar 3, 2017 22:45 |
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Worlds adrift
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# ? Mar 4, 2017 00:02 |
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i came to this thread to laugh at it
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 14:06 |
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I will miss our little lol's.
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 15:58 |
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Lastgirl posted:i came to this thread to laugh at it
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 16:01 |
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Albion Online: Unfortunately, there's still not quite anything better
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 17:29 |
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CubicalSucrose posted:Albion Online: Unfortunately, there's still not quite anything better But syphilis still exists...
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 22:08 |
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There are a lot of games that are better but you're in the wrong forum.
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 22:40 |
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Comrayn posted:There are a lot of games that are better but you're in the wrong forum. Besides eve and p2w archeage what is there?
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# ? Mar 5, 2017 23:21 |
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if youre looking for good games, i wouldnt look in this subforum
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 01:14 |
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Blazing Zero posted:if youre looking for good games, i wouldnt look in this subforum
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 11:48 |
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Don't listen to blazing he's just mad zelda didn't live up to the HYPE (it did). Also there are some decent game, this is just not one.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 16:48 |
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Your latest albion news. Farming rework going on currently. Also there are 133 days until release.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 16:51 |
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Will I be able to farm 24/7 after the update? perhaps mini games of whacking moles and watering plants?
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 17:59 |
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No it was all about horses and stuff. Basically they were trying to figure out if it needed a silver sink (they are changing this). So now it won't be a silver sink (HI huge economy change). Now you can use focus on horses and have great than 100% change of a return where as before you had to buy the baby with silver which is why T7 cost $500k beause of the silver sink required to even make it. Now this won't be the case and you can now grow infinite dire wolfs by this change??? Oatmeal looked at some of the gear and said in discord that you would likely be pvping in the farming gear because its so godly. Example, one item has a 10 yard radius 12 second root or some nonsense.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:33 |
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Blazing Zero posted:if youre looking for good games, i wouldnt look in this subforum Yes this is what I posted
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 18:55 |
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Tie the price of horses to the Nikkei 500 imo
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 20:35 |
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I'm not as Doom and Gloom as most folks about this game. The game IS getting better every beta. Fame requirements for Crafting/Farming/Weapons/Armor all feel roughly about 'right' now. You can get to T4/T5 armors/weapons fairly quick, and from there the grind moves up quickly, but unless you're some cutting edge GVG shitlords, wearing top tier poo poo doesn't matter. And let's be honest, the Goon guild in this game is never going to seriously compete for important Black Zone territories so I wouldn't let the grind for it dissuade you from the game. If you're looking to come in and stomp some moba shitbirds who have never played a full loot drop game before, this is your chance. The amount of truly bad players that run around in their best gear because "lol i can equip it" and die hilariously to T3/T4 groups is astounding. Last beta I had 3 years worth of premium time just from farming idiots in red zones and selling their loot on the AH. This current beta I didnt get as much time in, but the population was out and about in PVP areas more and there was still tons of idiots out there. Don't burn yourself out on this next beta; there is a greater than 0% chance that they extend release again so don't feel obligated to spend 40 hours the first week building a guild island up just to watch it not get used. CIR will be treating this beta as a practice for actual launch so feel free to come join us and poo poo on idiot pubbies. We're in a middish tier alliance who will be out in the Black Zones claiming territory, but we're not focusing on that this beta for the first month; instead focus will be PVEing to get to higher tiers and small group PVP roams to get everyone comfortable PVPing together. After a month or so we'll see how the Black Zone shenanigans shake out and re-evaluate the plan. Any goons are more than welcome to come stomp carebears and steal their shinies with us.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 20:45 |
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That's fair, I guess. Goon burnout and lack of a large enough active group is what drove most people away initially. Still, would be concerned about overall population dropoff. This type of game isn't fun if you can't find people to fight. Wolves and sheep and all that. For those of us that stayed longer than initial burnout, that's why we all left. It's gonna be way harder to get people to play AO now that they've burned all their initial release social capital.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:26 |
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wraith_5_ posted:The game IS getting better every beta. no it hasn't, it's been getting worse the infamy system is garbage, guards at zone entrances is dumb, arenas/instanced-pve areas are really dumb
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:45 |
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Ruggan posted:That's fair, I guess. Goon burnout and lack of a large enough active group is what drove most people away initially. There are still a lot of folks playing the current beta, which wipes in 4 days. I'm not concerned about not being able to find people to kill. If player dropoff in a early beta makes you not want to play the game, then I dont know if anything can bring you back. But for those who DO want to come play, you'll have a very active PVP home you're welcome to.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 21:57 |
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So far AO is a game about what not to do as Devs. I'm rather sure green knight is somewhere writing a book to chronicle this. It's not the game I was hoping it would be and it's not the game I thought it would be. Basically the devs changed directions on every aspect of the game except the one that really mattered which was the gvg system.
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:03 |
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wraith_5_ posted:There are still a lot of folks playing the current beta, which wipes in 4 days. I'm not concerned about not being able to find people to kill. you're a really bad liar. this is wholly untrue
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# ? Mar 6, 2017 22:06 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:you're a really bad liar. this is wholly untrue Idgaf if you play or not. I remember we had some cool dudes in the next to last beta who I would enjoy killing mans with again. If they're interested in playing again, but worry about activity because the goon guild isnt going to form, then I'm offering them a place to come kill mans again. If the fun peters out after 2 months again then who cares? You had some fun and already bought the game anyway so you arent out any money. But if they do stick with the July release date I dont see activity slowing down, a final 4 month beta isnt really that long. If they extend it again, then yea thisnext wipe wil be dead within 24 hours. Definitely a greater than 0% chance of that happening but we'll just have to see. There aint poo poo else worth playing right now anyway.
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wraith_5_ posted:Idgaf if you play or not. I remember we had some cool dudes in the next to last beta who I would enjoy killing mans with again. If they're interested in playing again, but worry about activity because the goon guild isnt going to form, then I'm offering them a place to come kill mans again. If the fun peters out after 2 months again then who cares? You had some fun and already bought the game anyway so you arent out any money. But if they do stick with the July release date I dont see activity slowing down, a final 4 month beta isnt really that long. this is a lot of words that has nothing to do with what I said
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 01:22 |
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wraith_5_ posted:The game IS getting better every beta.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 05:22 |
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the devs consistently make awful choices but it's still a fun game last beta we all could have had a lot more fun if certain people weren't so intent on sticking to their red zone haven cities (the people who are trying to pvp don't hang out there guys)
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 05:32 |
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Suxpool posted:the devs consistently make awful choices but it's still a fun game ^^ This Get to Black, PVP like crazy. Kill mans, have fun. If this sounds like fun, hit me up we've got a guild for you.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 05:34 |
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wraith_5_ posted:^^ This what guild?
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 05:50 |
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Wish they would abandon the moba PvP control idea for some other capture territory concept. I tried the gvg stuff just wasn't as fun as open world.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 06:05 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:what guild? he's from Crimson Imperium Reborn. i think we were allied up with them and Mostly Harmless back in the GSC Boneharbor days
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Keegers posted:Wish they would abandon the moba PvP control idea for some other capture territory concept. I tried the gvg stuff just wasn't as fun as open world. The one system that needs an overhaul (e.g., completely deleted) is the one system that they decided to just leave alone after all of these years of testing. Just...lol
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 11:01 |
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forge posted:So far AO is a game about what not to do as Devs. I'm rather sure green knight is somewhere writing a book to chronicle this. Self quoting 2DCAT.. self quoting..
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 15:08 |
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i once defended this game on the hill of 'its still fun to kill mans' because it was fun to kill mans at that time. now there's a terrible pvp penalty system ripped almost whole cloth from ultima online and gatherer hand holding protection. they also still insist the moba elements make this game better somehow this game is bad but if you somehow manage to squeeze fun out of it, i applaud that. trying to say that this fun is the result of any changes made in the last year to 18 months is silly though. ever since infamy and the map rework, what steps they took in the right direction were tossed straight in the bin. the last good changes(tm) was the simple gear tree and removing the gem grind
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 15:51 |
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forge posted:Self quoting 2DCAT.. self quoting..
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 15:58 |
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playing... albion online
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Blazing Zero posted:i once defended this game on the hill of 'its still fun to kill mans' because it was fun to kill mans at that time. now there's a terrible pvp penalty system ripped almost whole cloth from ultima online and gatherer hand holding protection. they also still insist the moba elements make this game better somehow The infamy change was complete garbage and still is. Its one of the more boneheaded moves they've done. So essentially PVP in red zones is dead if you want to set foot in Green cities. That said, the PVP has simply moved out to black zones. Black Zone NPC CIties have seen their economies grow because so many more folks are living in them now as opossed to the Boneharbor days. They're also down to 3 Black Zone cities so this should further concentrate the economies. However, there have been SOME improvements. The UI is a ton better than it was in Beta 1. The grinds are more leveled out than they used to be. Spell/spell indicators look better. Harvesting is easier. The instanced expeditions are kind of dumb, and I wish they wouldn't have added them. But theyre so low level that folks will still venture out once they break past t3/t4/t5. All they've really done is make the grind to T5 that much more conveneient, and honestly grinding to T5 inside a expedition is a slog compared to a dungeon, as it should be. The disparity between weapons is significantly better, its no longer just a handful that are viable. The evs have absolutely made some dumb, boneheaded decisions no one can defend, and will almost certainly make more. That said, its a stretch to say the game is unplayable, that there is no PVP, and that the game will have no population in 1 month. There are still mans to kill, you just do it in different zones now. Also, in before July 17th gets extended. I'd bet a good chunk of change that official launch date gets bumped.
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# ? May 15, 2024 02:53 |
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This game has been horrible from the get go and mostly we enjoyed killing plebs so it didn't matter. But not everyone can live in black, its the same issue it's always been and been argued to death with the devs. Your solution is join my cool alliance and live in black so we can outnumber people 200 to 20. Aka living in black cities. The rate at which you lose gear and the length of time it takes to craft it, is substantially skewed. Thus unless you are almost always victorious in pvp you will slowly lose resources in a black city until you have nothing left. Most goons aren't the hardened pvp heros they think they are and we learned this over the past 14 betas that there are maybe 5 of us who can hack this. No one has the gumption to hold a GvG territory from a guild with 250 members who poopsock all day and feed resources into 5 people. This is the single dumbest fucken mechanic in any MMO to date hands down. The devs continue to defend this mindset as a system that's fair for guilds of 10 to hold territory thus proving they don't even play their own game.. this is a dumpster fire. Red zone living is in the dumpster as they continued to not listen and added in the horrible rep system. Now you see hostile counts in the red zones, and in hellgate, and you see names at the side of the screen so good luck ever killing anyone in red. Oh and they removed 90% of the sprints.. so yeah. 2 years ago, 1 year ago, even 6 months ago.. We still could say things like "they said they are implementing this rep system which is totally going to change how this works". "They are going to fix GvG, the dev posted saying they were going to add an open world option for defending against the A TEAM". "They are going to fix PvE and make it great again, they layed out this cool plan". "They are going to create a new map which will take all our feedback into account", turns out its a pie chart. Well the times up and they've done all this poo poo and made the game worse. 132 days until release.
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