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PostNouveau posted:It's set 600 years before TOS, and covers Cortez's conquest of the Aztecs. Aztrek?
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MisterBibs posted:I imagine one of the issues with setting Discovery post-DS9 is that, as we've discussed off and on a lot of times, DS9 is the black sheep of the family with your broad potential audience. The last thing you'd want to do is base a new series, when you're trying to revive a tv franchise that the audience for needs expanding, anywhere close to the series that they don't remember and/or the one they didn't watch because it was expressly Not Your Daddy's Trek. DS9 got more viewers than Voyager.
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Zesty Crab Legs posted:DS9 got more viewers than Voyager. It's odd that that this, combined with the fact that out of the many many nerds I know only a single one preferred voyager and even then admits he doesn't know why and "I don't know the gay community really liked Voyager for some reason" , that some how Voyager has this reputation as the popular mainstream one and DS9 was some failed black sheep.
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Are these ever funny? It seems like the joke is only ever "everyone shits on O'Brien" which seems to be a narrative the creator of the comic created himself. The universe at large shits on O'Brien, but his co-workers don't.
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I feel like Voyager's left a bigger impact on pop culture than DS9 has, even if its first-run ratings weren't as good.
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MillennialVulcan posted:Eventually the prequels will go back so far we'll be at Earth Trek. I have a great idea about a Star Trek prequel that instead of being "Wagon Train to the Stars", it's "Wagon Train".
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Voyager was a network flagship show, so even if people weren't watching it, UPN made sure that people knew about it.
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Baronjutter posted:"I don't know the gay community really liked Voyager for some reason" That reason is Kate Mulgrew from what I gather
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Cojawfee posted:Are these ever funny? It seems like the joke is only ever "everyone shits on O'Brien" Congrats, you've figured it out.
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WampaLord posted:Congrats, you've figured it out. Ok, so is it ever funny?
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Cojawfee posted:Ok, so is it ever funny? Maybe 1 in 10.
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I just rediscovered this beauty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhy7JCOVqys
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Maybe 1 in 10. We call that the Dennis Miller ratio.
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Orv posted:Rascals is about as inoffensive as Bad Star Trek gets. Sure it's dumb, but whatever, it's got some good moments. Rascals is terrible but damned if I don't love this little scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5EaoSA02LM
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As good as all of that is, for some reason the part that gets me is his sad little nod.
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Cojawfee posted:Ok, so is it ever funny? I really wanted it to be. Followed in on my RSS feed for a while... but no, it's not funny after this first time you see it.
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Baronjutter posted:It's odd that that this, combined with the fact that out of the many many nerds I know only a single one preferred voyager and even then admits he doesn't know why and "I don't know the gay community really liked Voyager for some reason" , that some how Voyager has this reputation as the popular mainstream one and DS9 was some failed black sheep. I actually wonder if the episodes that dealt pretty directly with black issues dinged people's appraisal of DS9.
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Cojawfee posted:Are these ever funny? It seems like the joke is only ever "everyone shits on O'Brien" which seems to be a narrative the creator of the comic created himself. The universe at large shits on O'Brien, but his co-workers don't. It's kinda evolved into that, but initially the joke was "For five years O'Brien's job was to stand in a transporter room and once every few weeks he'd push a button if they didn't do it from the bridge"
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Big Mean Jerk posted:If it's on the CW, a thirty year old who plays a teenage character. This would be perfect, because of course a Eugenics Wars Star Trek prequel series on the CW would move the date of the Eugenics Wars from the 90s to the 2020s for no reason other than "Well originally the old series had the Eugenics Wars in the 90s, but we wanted to set it in the present day to be compelling to our current audience and have it address contemporary issues, and,"  CharlieWhiskey posted:I have a great idea about a Star Trek prequel that instead of being "Wagon Train to the Stars", it's "Wagon Train". I now want to see a Western series done like Star Trek, where they visit a village of the week every episode with crazy prospecters, mad preachers, regular antagonist Indians, and they have to tech the tech with 19th century technology. "Major, we're getting heavy arrow fire!" "Dammit Lieutenant, increase canvas shields! Reroute the rawhide!"
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Astroman posted:regular antagonist Indians, "Those are Indians?"
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Nessus posted:Failed BLACK sheep, huh? I dunno, there weren't that many and they were later on in the series. I think the thing that turned people off from DS9 was the fact that the show was different and was more about story arcs than standalone episodes, which was still rare in the 90's because things like Netflix didn't exist yet. That, and it was hard to catch on TV. Voyager was on UPN all the time, but you'd almost never see DS9 on the air. DS9 was both a little ahead of a time and also something you could never make today. I think a lot of people didn't realize just how great DS9 was until after it was off the air. I'm certainly in that group. People didn't really realize that TOS was great either until after it had been cancelled, too. I think Voyager is a little bit more in the public consciousness because it was advertised and aired non-stop on UPN, and it was very safe, didn't challenge the viewers and required almost no investment to follow. It was like 7 more seasons of TNG, only very mediocre.
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Just watched ENT's "Singularity," wherein the crew become obsessed with their own little pet projects: Archer with a speech about his dad, Hoshi with a family recipe, Reed with tactical protocols... and Trip with engineering the perfect chair. That was my favorite part, that and how everyone gets to resolve their thing except for Archer, because radiation or no, he sucks at speechwriting. Also, Phlox got real spooky when he lost his mind. That was pretty good.
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Timby posted:Almost two months after beginning production, Discovery has finally cast its captain.
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Timby posted:Almost two months after beginning production, Discovery has finally cast its captain. I wonder if with a prominent actor like that, if they'll be able to stick to the "Captain is just a background character" schtick they were reportedly going for. Although maybe that has been changed by now, considering the development hell this show has been stuck in.
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skasion posted:He's gonna die For sure, but probably not until midseason or the finale
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New thinkpiece: "How Star Trek: Discovery Legitimizes Rape Culture"
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Sir Lemming posted:New thinkpiece: "How Star Trek: Discovery Legitimizes Rape Culture" You jest but I can totally see that being an actual article This is not the future Captain Picard would have wanted 
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Gammatron 64 posted:This is not the future Captain Picard would have wanted Not enough Dune Buggies?
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My actual worry is that Isaacs bites it at the end of the premiere, thrusting an unprepared first officer into the captain's chair ("hur hur, Discovery has a double meaning, get it?"). That'll piss off women of color -- she won't just be the captain, some sort of poo poo has to force it. And then people complain, and the alt-right goes, "SEE? THEY'RE NEVER HAPPY. JOIN USSSSSSSSSSSSSS" Timby fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Timby posted:My actual worry is that Isaacs bites it at the end of the premiere, thrusting an unprepared first officer into the captain's chair. That'll piss off women of color -- she won't just be the captain, some sort of poo poo has to force it. Don't worry, it's not like there is a history of right wing ideologues completely ignoring the text and subtext of Trek in order to enjoy the buzz buzz lasers and Space battles.
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The_Doctor posted:Picard won't be born for another 70 years! Well he needs to travel back in time and give a rousing speech because we need him more than ever now
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Jason Isaacs had a terrible experience the last time he was aboard a spaceship.
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Sith Happens posted:I wonder if with a prominent actor like that, if they'll be able to stick to the "Captain is just a background character" schtick they were reportedly going for. Although maybe that has been changed by now, considering the development hell this show has been stuck in. I'm pretty sure that plan was dead as soon as they decided the lead would be the XO. She's as high up the chain of command as you can be excepting the captain, so it's not really much of a move. And so far all the XOs in Star Trek have been tied at the hip to the captain. Was the captain going to dispense wisdom once an episode with his face hidden by a fence or something?
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