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dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Akizuki, despite being a historically AA specialised ship, notably does not get Defensive Fire.

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Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

CitizenKain posted:

I unlocked mine a bit ago, and so far I'm not a fan of it. I just got the B hull though, so hopefully things will improve. The problem with the Akizuki is that it has really short ranged guns if you don't have AFT, but it also really needs IFHE to be able to actually damage things. I think I had over 60 hits on a battleship with HE, with no fires and 0 damage.

You need to be shooting AP in the Akizuki. The HE is laughable and only exists to start fires.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Vengarr posted:

You need to be shooting AP in the Akizuki. The HE is laughable and only exists to start fires.

The last time I saw one of these rare creatures, it was hammering away at the superstructure of a Colorado and not doing any damage with HE or AP

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

So I went from having an Ognevoi and a Kiev to having an Ognevoi, a Kiev, A Minsk, and a Gnevny. Is there any real reason to keep the Gnevny or the Minsk? I'm assuming they're not amazing performers that I'd want to elite and hang on to.

I only have one high skill point Soviet commander, so I get to decide to shove him in one of my T8s.

EDIT: Just saw that they gave me 8 point commanders. Not great, but better than nothing.

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

If you like the gnevny, keep them. If you didn't do well with the gnevny, lose them.

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

My opinion is that Gnevny is a bad Anshan now and also that none of the VMF DDs 5~7 are worth keeping.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Vengarr posted:

You need to be shooting AP in the Akizuki. The HE is laughable and only exists to start fires.

I was trying to start some fires. Plus AP isn't going to do much at 9km. I wasn't expecting big hits or anything, but not even getting a pity 100 damage shot somewhere in there is disheartening.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

Out for a ride, chillin out w/ a couple of friends. Going to be back for dinner
If you want to see some soul crushing replay, check this out:

https://wowreplays.com/Replay/31419-Cippalippus-Bismarck-Trident

Double Strike, Arsonist, High Caliber, Confederate, 4 kills.

228726 damage.

Defeat

:smith:

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003

Cippalippus posted:

If you want to see some soul crushing replay, check this out:

https://wowreplays.com/Replay/31419-Cippalippus-Bismarck-Trident

Double Strike, Arsonist, High Caliber, Confederate, 4 kills.

228726 damage.

Defeat

:smith:

How do you play replays? When I point it to wows.exe it just crashes without starting the game.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

Out for a ride, chillin out w/ a couple of friends. Going to be back for dinner
Uh, I just told it to use the wows executable when I was first prompted. Did you try it?

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003

Cippalippus posted:

Uh, I just told it to use the wows executable when I was first prompted. Did you try it?

That's what I meant by pointing it to wows.exe...

edit: drag-dropping the replay brings me to the loading screen where it also crashes.
vvv Makes sense Heartcatch. I'm on NA.


The Bayern is rough to play after getting used to the accuracy and shell speed of the König. :(

finishing stats on König: 24 games played, 15 wins. 5.28 kill/death ratio. 66k average damage. :toot:

PirateBob fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 7, 2017

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Cippalippus is likely using the EU client, which hasn't updated to 6.2 unlike Asia and NA servers.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

Out for a ride, chillin out w/ a couple of friends. Going to be back for dinner
Oh yeah, that must be it.

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

CitizenKain posted:

I was trying to start some fires. Plus AP isn't going to do much at 9km. I wasn't expecting big hits or anything, but not even getting a pity 100 damage shot somewhere in there is disheartening.

The Akizuki doesn't come into its own until you have an 18 point captain - so you can have both Advanced Firing Training, Inertial Fuse, and Concealment Expert all together. 14 point captain is fine to use if you have to leave out CE.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

I can't tell if I'm doing well at this game or not. I suspect not, because I die frequently, but my highest scoring game I died in the first two minutes because I was the only person defending our flag zone. My lowest scoring game I killed two ships (and got credit for it). It's all very confusing.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost
Played one game in the new tier 9 Trashcan, sold it. The captain that was on it was moved to the Kiev, they gave me a 9pt captain to replace him. So imagine the joy of a tier 9 BB with no high tier skills. Plus its a Tashkent.

New Kiev is fun though.

Pacra posted:

The Akizuki doesn't come into its own until you have an 18 point captain - so you can have both Advanced Firing Training, Inertial Fuse, and Concealment Expert all together. 14 point captain is fine to use if you have to leave out CE.

I've got an 11pt captain on it, so I'm kinda screwed on this thing.

CitizenKain fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Mar 7, 2017

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Heartcatch posted:

My opinion is that Gnevny is a bad Anshan now and also that none of the VMF DDs 5~7 are worth keeping.

The gremyaschy on the other hand is very nice.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

LLSix posted:

I can't tell if I'm doing well at this game or not. I suspect not, because I die frequently, but my highest scoring game I died in the first two minutes because I was the only person defending our flag zone. My lowest scoring game I killed two ships (and got credit for it). It's all very confusing.

Scratch that, my lowest scoring game is now the one where I was half killed by being rammed (twice) by a "friendly" BB, killed two ships, and got a first blood medal. 60 hits on target.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

orange juche posted:

The gremyaschy on the other hand is very nice.

Yeah, I just took a peek and the Gremy has better rudder shift, turning circle, torpedoes, gun range, and hitpoints at tier 5. The Gnevny's only bonus is 1kt speed and slightly faster turning guns.

Is there any point at all in trying it or is it safe to just remove it?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Gnevny wasn't even good at tier 5, let alone now, I'm selling mine, and the Podvoisky. Might try the Minsk for a battle just to see what's what, but will probably sell it too. My 12 point Minsk captain is going in Kiev, and the 8 point Kiev captain I got for free for some reason is going to sit in reserve and wait for VMF battleships.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Blindeye posted:

Yeah, I just took a peek and the Gremy has better rudder shift, turning circle, torpedoes, gun range, and hitpoints at tier 5. The Gnevny's only bonus is 1kt speed and slightly faster turning guns.

Is there any point at all in trying it or is it safe to just remove it?

Huh? If you have a Gremyaschy, you would be a god drat fool to sell it. You get the old VMF DD fire chance instead of the new one, you can light fools on fire for days, and the AP hurts like a bitch, you can citadel cruisers even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYBWnE-Tho

orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Mar 7, 2017

Lady Morgaga
Aug 27, 2012

by Smythe

Heartcatch posted:

Cippalippus is likely using the EU client, which hasn't updated to 6.2 unlike Asia and NA servers.

Im pretty sure that even with same patch replays still dont work on different clients.

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013
Speaking of Gremiashy, I am sad that it requires a specific captain.
I already have a Moskva captain, a kutuzov captain and a khabarovsk captain and none is appropriate for the grems.
What would you think is the closest?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




orange juche posted:

Huh? If you have a Gremyaschy, you would be a god drat fool to sell it. You get the old VMF DD fire chance instead of the new one, you can light fools on fire for days, and the AP hurts like a bitch, you can citadel cruisers even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYBWnE-Tho

Pretty sure he's talking about selling Gnevny, not Gremy

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Lady Morgaga posted:

Im pretty sure that even with same patch replays still dont work on different clients.

I knew I should have added a disclaimer to cover that!

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Krogort posted:

Speaking of Gremiashy, I am sad that it requires a specific captain.
I already have a Moskva captain, a kutuzov captain and a khabarovsk captain and none is appropriate for the grems.
What would you think is the closest?

Whichever one has Last Stand, and you'll have to use the turret rotation speed mod.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

orange juche posted:

Huh? If you have a Gremyaschy, you would be a god drat fool to sell it. You get the old VMF DD fire chance instead of the new one, you can light fools on fire for days, and the AP hurts like a bitch, you can citadel cruisers even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYBWnE-Tho

No!

Nononono.

I meant, is there any point trying the new Gnevny when it is worse than a Gremy in almost every way and a tier higher.

No, no loving way am I getting rid of that glorious OP murderbote.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
People keep saying the Gremy is great and all that, but I can't make it work because I'm utter garbage at DDs. :saddowns:

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

DDs are ostensibly one of the harder ship types to play properly since you tend to be dead after one major mistake. Stop making mistakes, problem solved! :eng101:

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

Nordick posted:

People keep saying the Gremy is great and all that, but I can't make it work because I'm utter garbage at DDs. :saddowns:

You need a captain at least lvl 10 to make it shine.

Iceshade
Sep 15, 2007
Tactical Ignorance
I was watching Flamu's cast of the King of the Sea thing, and he has a mod (or option?) that shows the consumable the ship is currently using

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3d0fnB6vnk

When a ship has a fighter plane up, he has a fighter plane icon next to his name. Does anyone know what that is?

Iceshade fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 7, 2017

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003
Being already a bit disappointed by the Bayern after the sweet König (lose significant amount of vertical accuracy and lose 50 m/s of shell velocity) - I'm wondering how underpowered the Gneisenau really is? I haven't even tried it and I'm already a bit pissed off at the 6 guns, without improved accuracy or firing rate, when the König has 10. Is it fun to play?

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

PirateBob posted:

Being already a bit disappointed by the Bayern after the sweet König (lose significant amount of vertical accuracy and lose 50 m/s of shell velocity) - I'm wondering how underpowered the Gneisenau really is? I haven't even tried it and I'm already a bit pissed off at the 6 guns, without improved accuracy or firing rate, when the König has 10. Is it fun to play?

Gneisneau is awesome.
Fast,armored, decent guns, good secondaries and torpedoes. What's not to love ?

I kicked rear end with it, granted I hated the other T7 BB and I played them before the favorable MM and before they got buffed but still.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

PirateBob posted:

Being already a bit disappointed by the Bayern after the sweet König (lose significant amount of vertical accuracy and lose 50 m/s of shell velocity) - I'm wondering how underpowered the Gneisenau really is? I haven't even tried it and I'm already a bit pissed off at the 6 guns, without improved accuracy or firing rate, when the König has 10. Is it fun to play?

The Bayern hits harder, also its 15" shells have good penetration and can handle higher tier ships. You get a improvement in armor, secondaries and better turret placement, so you don't need to expose as much of a broadside. Where the Bayern really shines is being able to take a goddamn beating while still fighting.

The Gneisenau left me cold at first, but I really started to like it by the time I upgraded to the Bismark. The guns aren't great, and only having 6 of them is a problem, but this is the game telling you that you aren't supposed to sit back and snipe. You are supposed to get in close to people and force them to make bad choices. Do they turn away from you and run, which gives you shots at their side and better lets you decide the engagement range? Or do they risk getting close and getting torp'd, while also dealing with your better agility and faster turning guns. Plus, being able to go fast is huge on battleships, you can hang out close to cruisers which is handy for all kinds of reasons. They can eat torps for you and give people other ships to shoot at.

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003

CitizenKain posted:

The Bayern hits harder, also its 15" shells have good penetration and can handle higher tier ships. You get a improvement in armor, secondaries and better turret placement, so you don't need to expose as much of a broadside. Where the Bayern really shines is being able to take a goddamn beating while still fighting.

The Gneisenau left me cold at first, but I really started to like it by the time I upgraded to the Bismark. The guns aren't great, and only having 6 of them is a problem, but this is the game telling you that you aren't supposed to sit back and snipe. You are supposed to get in close to people and force them to make bad choices. Do they turn away from you and run, which gives you shots at their side and better lets you decide the engagement range? Or do they risk getting close and getting torp'd, while also dealing with your better agility and faster turning guns. Plus, being able to go fast is huge on battleships, you can hang out close to cruisers which is handy for all kinds of reasons. They can eat torps for you and give people other ships to shoot at.

Alright. I will have a 14 point captain ready for it (thx dragon flags), with AFT and Manual Secondaries. I'll charge into cap points like a motherfucker and spam secondaries and torps. :black101:

Why do you sometimes get dubloons as rewards for tasks? I don't remember seeing that reward on the task overview.

PirateBob fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Mar 7, 2017

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Some of the missions in the 2 available campaigns give them if you can do them.

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

Out for a ride, chillin out w/ a couple of friends. Going to be back for dinner
Bayern is very good, a mini Bismarck. It's really tough and hard to dislodge if driven by a competent player.

The Gneisenau is really good too. It goes fast and really you need the two guns to fight bow on and deal decent damage. It really shines at rushing other battleships and force them to make mistakes or eat torps, or otherwise be mauled by secondaries.

Dralun
May 22, 2012
What's the mod or setting that displays your damage done in the upper right hand corner?

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Dralun posted:

What's the mod or setting that displays your damage done in the upper right hand corner?

Settings > Controls > Damage Indicator

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3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
It's weird it's not on by default.

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