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Utnayan posted:Zelda also has a cross platform release. The Wii U version of the game (Which I have) is identical to everything I can see (When played on a TV). So I would expect a lot of Zelda's to be purchased for the Wii U. I am sure Mario will be good and sell the switch, but hopefully by then they have ironed out all the bugs and glitches in the system and have a fully featured online service ready to go. In the meantime though, it's obvious that Zelda sales will be split on the high side, with the high side of revenue going to the Wii U (Higher install base so this is obvious) and a software drought it going to kill sales until that Mario game hits. Quite frankly, a price drop will hit sooner rather than later ($199-$249) and there it will either make a recovery, or just fail completely at that point. You'd be incorrect. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Thom P. Tiers posted:People have been wishing 3rd party development on Nintendo for 15 years. It's not going to happen. Honestly looking at the upcoming games this year reveals that most of the titles I want are coming out for the Switch anyway. Notable exceptions are South Park and Shadow of War, but that's what the PS4/Gaming PC are for, and TBH I'll probably wait for the Steam Winter sale for both since I'm not optimistic either will live up to their predecessors.
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ethanol posted:I think a lot of people either didn't buy the Wii U, don't have Wii U's anymore or traded them for the switch. Will be interesting to see which system sells more copies instead of speculate though I sold mine in favor of the switch. And am extremely glad I did. The new Mario in Fall is going to be incredible for anyone who has been waiting for a game like 64/Sunshine and not all of this nostalgia crap that they have been pushing the last 10 years (besides the galaxy games, those were good).
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Mar 7, 2017 18:00
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ethanol posted:Man I have such a great time when I play this game. I've been lost from the main quest for like 3 real days and I refuse to read where to go next because exploring this map is the most fun ive had exploring in any open world game ever awesome 
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Nintendo's better than expected early sales are a good sign because it was an offcycle release. They get a Summer bump and the chance to increase sales through Winter if they have something special for E3. Really all they need is one big new game announcement and maybe a new peripheral for the Switch. Then Winter comes and sales usually go way up, and should considering releases like Mario. Basically the riskiest strategy they took was this early Spring release and it worked.
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lelandjs posted:Honestly looking at the upcoming games this year reveals that most of the titles I want are coming out for the Switch anyway. Notable exceptions are South Park and Shadow of War, but that's what the PS4/Gaming PC are for, and TBH I'll probably wait for the Steam Winter sale for both since I'm not optimistic either will live up to their predecessors. I'm honestly surprised Ubisoft isn't attempting to port South Park. It's not particularly intensive and would probably look great on Switch, and they probably have the best relationship with Nintendo of any Western third party publisher. Seems like it would be easier to port than Steep.
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:There have been lots of questions the last few days on what case to get. I picked this one up the other day and I love it. This is the PDP Nintendo Switch Starter Kit, in Mario graphics. It runs 29.99 and I got mine in Gamestop. i have this case. its good Happy Noodle Boy posted:Sounds like you're playing the game the wrong way, idiot. Go watch some Twitch streams. good luck on getting a switch enojy posted:That's what I did last night. But at like 11 PM I was like OK, I've got like 2 hours, I can go to (first dungeon) now. I've got enough hearts, food's good, weapons good... Next thing I know, it's 1 AM, and I've got a friendly NPC telling me I'm about halfway there. I forgot, the trek to Zelda dungeons are usually dungeons on their own. it feels properly like an adventure. i remember getting zelda 1 and seeing that cover and its like. thats what this game really is. its great
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Utnayan posted:Zelda also has a cross platform release. The Wii U version of the game (Which I have) is identical to everything I can see (When played on a TV). So I would expect a lot of Zelda's to be purchased for the Wii U. I am sure Mario will be good and sell the switch, but hopefully by then they have ironed out all the bugs and glitches in the system and have a fully featured online service ready to go. In the meantime though, it's obvious that Zelda sales will be split on the high side, with the high side of revenue going to the Wii U (Higher install base so this is obvious) and a software drought is going to kill sales until that Mario game hits. Quite frankly, a price drop will hit sooner rather than later ($199-$249) and there it will either make a recovery, or just fail completely at that point. Ahahahahahahaha What's it like to be so carefree that you can afford brain cycles on poo poo like this?
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I sold mine in favor of the switch. And am extremely glad I did. The new Mario in Fall is going to be incredible for anyone who has been waiting for a game like 64/Sunshine and not all of this nostalgia crap that they have been pushing the last 10 years (besides the galaxy games, those were good). Mario 3d world is insanely good
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Raserys posted:Mario 3d world is insanely good It's a functionally good game, but it just doesn't have the magic that Galaxy has.
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Utnayan posted:I disagree. I think this is worse than the Wii U. But like I said, I am happy you are happy with your purchase.  I'd write something about how wrong you are, but I think "everything you write is wrong" sums it up. The WiiU had a very solid launch lineup, none of these hardware issues, no issues with perceived competition with the 3ds over software, and it failed miserably. Over its first ~9 months the WiiU got NSMBU, Nintendoland and Pikmin 3  The Switch has very good Unity and Unreal engine support, hardware features that make sense most of the time, some very nice first party games over its first year and arguably the best received launch title of any console ever. It will get Splatoon, Mario kart, Zelda, Mario and maybe Xenoblade, that's actually a very solid lineup of first party titles by Christmas
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Mario 3D World has you chase/run from a giant cat Bowser up a loving casino sky scraper That's plenty of magic right there
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I mean it can absolutely fail, but not because of those dumb things you wrote. If anything, the lovely online features and lack of good virtual console offerings is what worries me
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I know people want new games but I still strongly desire a port of super Mario 3d world, that's a really fun game
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Zelda will be a 2-3 month game for most. Snipperclips, FastRMX, MK8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, plus a million indies. If they are able to get an eShop with VC games before summer it's going to be gold. People have been wishing 3rd party development on Nintendo for 15 years. It's not going to happen. It did with the WiiU, it launched with asscreed and masseffect and bartman and nobody gave a poo poo.
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Mar 7, 2017 18:13
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It did with the WiiU, it launched with asscreed and masseffect and bartman and nobody gave a poo poo. Weren't these all ports of like year old games at that point?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It did with the WiiU, it launched with asscreed and masseffect and bartman and nobody gave a poo poo. A marketing failure gave us President Trump and a marketing failure tanked the WiiU
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It did with the WiiU, it launched with asscreed and masseffect and bartman and nobody gave a poo poo. now remembering reggie exasperatedly claiming that batman wii u was a true exclusive because the bonus content in it wasnt on any other platform and lolling
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ethanol posted:I know people want new games but I still strongly desire a port of super Mario 3d world, that's a really fun game Given the still incredibly small amount of WiiU users out there (something like 14 mil?) I would not be surprised if we see ports of all of the best WiiU software and really I'm hoping that happens cause there are some really good software on it that would be a shame to see forever stuck on a console that's already ceased it's entire production and which has so few out there already
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Utnayan posted:Zelda also has a cross platform release. The Wii U version of the game (Which I have) is identical to everything I can see (When played on a TV). So I would expect a lot of Zelda's to be purchased for the Wii U. I am sure Mario will be good and sell the switch, but hopefully by then they have ironed out all the bugs and glitches in the system and have a fully featured online service ready to go. In the meantime though, it's obvious that Zelda sales will be split on the high side, with the high side of revenue going to the Wii U (Higher install base so this is obvious) and a software drought is going to kill sales until that Mario game hits. Quite frankly, a price drop will hit sooner rather than later ($199-$249) and there it will either make a recovery, or just fail completely at that point. Nothing you write makes a lick of sense. Splatoon and Mariokart are huge potential draws for people who won't buy the switch just for Zelda, like the WiiU owners that won't get it at launch day.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Weren't these all ports of like year old games at that point? I don't remember and neither does anyone else
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For many people this is their first console or first Nintendo console since Wii or before. That Mariokart is similar to old versions doesn't matter that much when you can DLC it or simply get new adopters more interested in the device.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Given the still incredibly small amount of WiiU users out there (something like 14 mil?) I would not be surprised if we see ports of all of the best WiiU software and really I'm hoping that happens cause there are some really good software on it that would be a shame to see forever stuck on a console that's already ceased it's entire production and which has so few out there already 22 Million - But Mario Kart hit 8.6 million units sold on that device.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Given the still incredibly small amount of WiiU users out there (something like 14 mil?) I would not be surprised if we see ports of all of the best WiiU software and really I'm hoping that happens cause there are some really good software on it that would be a shame to see forever stuck on a console that's already ceased it's entire production and which has so few out there already Yeah Nintendo would be insane not to port their WiiU library. I guess it depends on how much work porting requires. Also they wouldn't want the Switch to be the WiiU+ so they can't just fill the release calendar with old stuff.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I don't remember and neither does anyone else They were. The same with Mario Kart and Splatoon 2. If you are hinging the success of people buying an entire system for 2 ported games, one of which 8.6 million people already bought, because it's first party over third party, that is possible since it is 1st party Nintendo on the go this time around. But it failed on 3rd party with the Wii U. I guess we will see if it is different this time around and how many of those millions will repeat the Kart purchase just to have that on the go. A point to remember is that the 3DS Mario Kart 7 and Wii U Mario Kart 8 didn't require a tethering device. There are other variables at play here aside from those games being played to the moon and back already. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Utnayan posted:22 Million - But Mario Kart hit 8.6 million units sold on that device. They haven't sold anything close to 22 million WiiUs.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:They haven't sold anything close to 22 million WiiUs. He mixed up GameCube and Wiiu sales
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They sold just short of 14m units lol
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Utnayan posted:They were. The same with Mario Kart and Splatoon 2. If you are hinging the success of people buying an entire system for 2 games, one of which 8.6 million people already bought, because it's first party over third party, that is possible since it is 1st party Nintendo on the go this time around. But it failed on 3rd party with the Wii U. I guess we will see if it is different this time around and how many of those millions will repeat the Kart purchase just to have that on the go. Yes Splatoon and AssCreed are immensely comparable in terms of appeal,
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The Switch is going to be a huge hit. Being able to play a console anywhere may sound like a gimmick, but in practice it's loving amazing. Also, I think a lot of people who are new or coming back to Nintendo for the first time in forever are going to lose their poo poo when they see how amazing Mario Kart and Splat2n are.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:He mixed up GameCube and Wiiu sales Yep sorry. So 14 million it is. That's pretty impressive that Mario Kart sold 8.6 million into a 14 million base.
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Case report: Just got this delivered this morning: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Swi...rds=switch+case For $15 it does the job. Inside the top and bottom is a decently rigid piece of plastic. The carts can be held in what seem to be fairly secure elastic bands. The console itself fits behind a mesh screen. It is large enough to hold the Switch with Joycons attached. Combined with my glass protectors (arriving tomorrow) i think it will suit my needs perfectly. May grab a "designer" case in a year or so, but for launch this works great. Edit: The tassel/lanyard is dumb and I got rid of it.
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Utnayan posted:Yep sorry. So 14 million it is. To be fair there was a MK8/console bundle midway through the console's life
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So there are a lot of reports coming out about the quality of the Switch, from tons of displays with bad pixels to badly machined, loose feeling controllers when connected to the screen, to the actual docking station scratching the piss out of the screen after less than a handful of docks and undocks. Anybody here had these issues or have I just been fed false information?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It did with the WiiU, it launched with asscreed and masseffect and bartman and nobody gave a poo poo. Asscreed came out the same day as the other systems (though the actual WiiU came out two weeks later so you couldn't play it yet), but Arkham City was six months old, and Mass Effect 3 was not just 6 months old, but came out simultaneously with Mass Effect Trilogy on the other systems. That had all three games and actually cost less than the WiiU version of three.
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GreatGreen posted:So there are a lot of reports coming out about the quality of the Switch, from tons of displays with bad pixels to badly machined, loose feeling controllers when connected to the screen, to the actual docking station scratching the piss out of the screen after less than a handful of docks and undocks. My first Switch had a possessed touch screen that kept randomly touching itself with no prompting. I raced it back to Best Buy and exchanged with no questions asked. Got lucky as they were down to two systems left. During my exchange the last two were bought, man it was close. Switch 2 is flawless so far...
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GreatGreen posted:So there are a lot of reports coming out about the quality of the Switch, from tons of displays with bad pixels to badly machined, loose feeling controllers when connected to the screen, to the actual docking station scratching the piss out of the screen after less than a handful of docks and undocks. There's been reports but I can't reproduce them  some reviewer said the day one update solved some of the connection issues. Nintendo's been pretty crap at quality control of their screens so there are indeed some dead pixels out there, no idea about how common it is though
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i hope the switch continues to do well. unlike the wii u, which was a piece of poo poo rightfully overlooked by many tens of millions of people, the switch is actually a Good Console
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GreatGreen posted:So there are a lot of reports coming out about the quality of the Switch, from tons of displays with bad pixels to badly machined, loose feeling controllers when connected to the screen, to the actual docking station scratching the piss out of the screen after less than a handful of docks and undocks. The only thing that seems especially wide spread is the joycons issue, and to a lesser extent the dock. Some are bent, some are not, and that's the source of the scratching. I took a ruler to mine earlier and I seem to have one of the ones that aren't, so it's not everyone. I'm willing to chalk that up to factory error.
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