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Dick Burglar posted:Only 90%? Really? 10% actively just wants to get out of work, go home and either beat off, get drunk and/or play video games. Those guys are fine and have hazing rituals closer to "Go collect an exhaust sample over to the inspector" and then hand you a giant trash bag. Or when hospital staff send the new nurse to draw blood from what they think is a corpse, but then have them shoot up right as the needle begins to touch them and roar. or using Sharpies to draw hidden tiny dicks in plain sight places inside another crew's chopper right before the MAG commander comes down. Because good hazing is just a fun prank you pull on the new guy Hazing that draws blood is under the label of "goes too far"
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Light hazing is just shenanigans
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Booblord Zagats posted:10% actively just wants to get out of work, go home and either beat off, get drunk and/or play video games. Those guys are fine and have hazing rituals closer to "Go collect an exhaust sample over to the inspector" and then hand you a giant trash bag. Or when hospital staff send the new nurse to draw blood from what they think is a corpse, but then have them shoot up right as the needle begins to touch them and roar. or using Sharpies to draw hidden tiny dicks in plain sight places inside another crew's chopper right before the MAG commander comes down. Because good hazing is just a fun prank you pull on the new guy Good pranks that only work on the new guy shouldn't count as hazing, as long as they're harmless and funny. When I worked in a restaurant, there were a few good standbys, like filling a mop bucket with cold water and telling the new guy to mop the floor of the walk-in freezer, or sending them outside to take down the flag from the flagpole (there is no flagpole)
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Mar 6, 2017 17:54
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Soulex posted:Light hazing is just shenanigans But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun.
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Ones I liked to play on new cadets or brand new deckhands on freighters was send them to pick up some weird thing (Radar scanner lube, a box of ARPA targets, the divider sharpening stone, a bucket of cold steam, whatever), but have it set up so whoever I was sending them to would send them on another wild-goose chase. If you had a good crew and planned ahead some, you could have them searching the entire ship and meeting everyone onboard before they realized they were being pranked.
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Mar 6, 2017 17:57
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The first unit I was at was a no holds barred no ranks sacred prank arena. It was fun and really helped ease the bullshit of the day. We had one that opted out, and it was no problem. poo poo ain't hard, but ~tradition~ and whatnot that idiots perpetuate is the norm. Not like this is news to anyone here.
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FrozenVent posted:Ones I liked to play on new cadets or brand new deckhands on freighters was send them to pick up some weird thing (Radar scanner lube, a box of ARPA targets, the divider sharpening stone, a bucket of cold steam, whatever), but have it set up so whoever I was sending them to would send them on another wild-goose chase. Someone tried to do the whistle air sample one to me when I was a cadet so they mangled the phrasing and I just blew down the air receiver for the whistle thinking they'd just asked me to do normal maintenance.
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FrozenVent posted:Ones I liked to play on new cadets or brand new deckhands on freighters was send them to pick up some weird thing (Radar scanner lube, a box of ARPA targets, the divider sharpening stone, a bucket of cold steam, whatever), but have it set up so whoever I was sending them to would send them on another wild-goose chase. It would be pretty cool to arrange a check in sheet and wild goose chase so that they get done simultaneously. Then again check in sheets should be classified as hazing. Thank God you made a system for me to show up at places to make someone's job easier only to have to stand around for thirty minutes and come back next Wednesday for the loving honor of pissing in a bottle. The first lesson is the truest.
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piL posted:It would be pretty cool to arrange a check in sheet and wild goose chase so that they get done simultaneously. My new-joiner familiarization tour used to include the phrase "(...) and then you'll die" about twelve times, and "Listen up, since you'll have to remember this with a pound of crap in your pants if it comes up" a few times. I thought it was hilarious until I had to give the tour to two non-marine, non-blue-collar riders and terrified the ever loving poo poo out of them. Wait no that made it more hilarious.
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Mar 7, 2017 04:11
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Found in the army thread, re: strykers:A Bad Poster posted:The water damage thing explains why they're so anal about the tarps. I know our mechanics have been pretty good at working on our trucks. Got to watch them change out an engine because some idiot put coolant in where the engine oil goes. $146,000 oopsie there.
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Mar 7, 2017 04:38
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One of our roads and grounds guys caught a manhole cover with a snowplow while going over the speed they're supposed to use when plowing. The back end came a couple of feet off the ground, and he got knocked out. The mounts were so messed up that they were considering not trying to fix it. So that's about $250k of snowplow out of commission on top of all the other poo poo he's broken over the years.
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FrozenVent posted:If you had a good crew and planned ahead some, you could have them searching the entire ship and meeting everyone onboard before they realized they were being pranked. And if done right, the new guy now knows everyone on board and how to get anywhere from anywhere else.
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Hazing is bullshit and just creates a new crop of malicious dickheads every year. Every private/junior officer who gets beat on and abused ends up wanting to do it to the next guy. Pranking, practical jokes, and new guy antics were OK so long as they were fun and no one was truly being abused or humiliated. It's a welcoming rite of passage and if done with a sense of humor could help deal with some of the mundane bullshit. Everyone (eventually even the victim of the prank) got a laugh out of it. I'm talking about stuff like sending a new guy to turn on the range fans, find a PRC-E7, or conduct a Boom Test on the main gun. Harmless and nobody gets anything shoved in an orifice. It also helps if all ranks are involved--shoe polish on the new platoon leader's .50 sight or using the CO's new signature stamp to make everything in the company (including every square on the toilet paper roll in the shitter) "official" was funny. Getting thrown in the pond at PT on your birthday was something that happened to just about everyone from E1-O3. Things like blood wings and blood rank were fine until the Marines not only let it get out of hand but filmed it. We used to do the blood rank thing when I was in a tank company and it wasn't mean spirited, you pinned on and everyone got a punch in. It was in broad daylight and everyone was smiling and joking about it. One of the few pieces of old pin-on rank that I didn't toss out years ago is the 1LT bar that my gunner turned into a U-shape around his knuckle. The key is that for every punch there was a handshake and a congratulations. No big deal. Oh, idiot story-- My older brother was the S-2 at an Armor battalion at Ft. Hood in the mid '90's At the time I was a Platoon leader at Stewart. One day we're home on leave and he asks me, "hey, do you know 1LT Dickhead?" Turns out I had run into him as an ROTC cadet and remarked that the guy was known to be a weird pervert. My brother laughed and told me how this guy got himself chaptered out: One morning the CSM got to his office before PT to find his printer tray full of odd poo poo like horse porn and worse. After reacting the way you might expect my brother was tasked to find out WTF because the S-2 is supposed to be in charge of IT security. Didn't take long to figure out that 1LT Dickhead had pulled SDO the night before and used the S-3's office to "do some work". Turns out he was surfing porn on the S-3's computer and tried to print out his wacking material. Unfortunately for him the machine he was on was set to print to the command group's networked printer in the locked office of the CSM. He was not computer literate enough to realize this and actually just kept trying to print the same stuff over and over. When he was questioned he lied to the S-2, the S-3 and the Battalion Commander. (The SDNCO and CQ runners had already dimed him out). The combo of horse porn, lying, and generally being a shithead up to that point added up to his commission getting yanked.
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Lying is what will really gently caress you in the military. If you gently caress up and cop to it then fine you get your punishment and that's the end. If you lie your life is going to go to poo poo sooner or later.
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All hazing is bad. Blood rank and poo poo like that has led to deaths. Don't try and say certain types of hazing are okay and certain types aren't.
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Pesticide20 posted:All hazing is bad. No one cares, we've discussed this to death, and it's gonna lead to some hazing (It's the ciiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrccccccccccccllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeee of life!!!"
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Cue video of that dude getting his rank punched in with a sledge hammer and subsequently dying from his injuries. Edit: I went through airborne school right after basic, and all of our drill sergeants who were airborne showed up to the graduation. They asked each of us who were from their class individually if we would allow them to punch in our wings, since they weren't allowed to do it with our crossed rifles. I said no, and they were like "OK, that's fine." A Bad Poster fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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A Bad Poster posted:Cue video of that dude getting his rank punched in with a sledge hammer and subsequently dying from his injuries. Jesus really? A Bad Poster posted:Edit: I went through airborne school right after basic, and all of our drill sergeants who were airborne showed up to the graduation. They asked each of us who were from their class individually if we would allow them to punch in our wings, since they weren't allowed to do it with our crossed rifles. I said no, and they were like "OK, that's fine." To clarify, that's pretty much how we did the blood rank thing. It was in no way mandatory and if someone said, "yeah gently caress that guys" it wasn't a big deal. The thing with the Marines blood wing video happened not too long before I went to airborne school and the instructors made sure no one did it. Apart from a few guys who felt they were being cheated out of a "tradition" most of us just wanted to turn in our poo poo and leave. Here's a link to the Marine blood wing thing (skip to :50 for idiocy): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y-RSdUgbVk It was supposed to be one punch in and done, what they did was ridiculous. Itchy_Grundle fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Itchy_Grundle posted:Jesus really? I remember being briefed on it, fun times.
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Itchy_Grundle posted:Jesus really? Dude didn't die, he did get hosed up though.
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The navy version of that since rank was on our sleeves for the longest time was some guys holding another sailors arm around a pipe and then tacking on his crow with a wrench. IIRC he lost his arm as a result.
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I heard about a broken sternum before but I don't recall a sledgehammer being involved. Is it the same incident? Is it different? Amry!
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https://youtu.be/Ut5zTAapPXQ
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Our rank was on the collar at the time. I can't see how basically hitting someone in the sternum repeatedly can end well. Those shenanigans are cruel and tragic.
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Yeah, I might be getting some wires crossed. Either way, pretty hosed up. Especially since the father from that news report has no legal recourse he could take, because army.
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A Bad Poster posted:Yeah, I might be getting some wires crossed. Either way, pretty hosed up. Especially since the father from that news report has no legal recourse he could take, because army. That's the poo poo that pisses me off the most.
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poo poo, I bet if there wasn't video of it there wouldn't even have been any administrative action taken. "Oh, he ran into a doorknob. A really big doorknob."
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Lying is what will really gently caress you in the military. If you gently caress up and cop to it then fine you get your punishment and that's the end. If you lie your life is going to go to poo poo sooner or later.  Thus I went.enlisted.txt? 
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not caring here posted:I heard about a broken sternum before but I don't recall a sledgehammer being involved. Is it the same incident? Is it different? Amry! That was a ceremonial passing of the hammer that became a ceremonial shoving the hammer as hard as you can to the guy. Different incident same idea. Idiot story: one of my special specials had a beater rear end vehicle that he never maintained. After multiple people warned him that if he didn't replace his tires, that were pretty much just visible cables and some rubber, then he would lose his driving privileges until he decided to fix said thing. He doesn't do thing, keys get taken and the vehicle locked in the compound. Now he wants to fix it, and does within the week. Counseling and vehicle received, yay. It takes less than a month for him to lose his vehicle for doing ridiculous speeds on a highway, I got to escort him to the courthouse. Driving privileges revoked indefinitely. Namaste.
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mllaneza posted:And if done right, the new guy now knows everyone on board and how to get anywhere from anywhere else. :thepoint:
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We get a light punch in the shoulders from chief and supervisor and that's it. More of a shove really. The video a few posts up is just plain sociopath poo poo. Normalizing poo poo like that is probably how a lot of guys make the leap to making severed ear necklaces and pissing on bodies. All while their leadership plays dumb to why this might have happened.
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Worst I ever did was convince a bunch of privates that the EST 2000 was closed because of inclement weather, i.e, it was too foggy to see the targets.
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Mar 7, 2017 21:42
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I'm getting the impression the military is full of terrible people!
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I made a private put a seat belt from humvee in a tank. Jokes on me though he loving did it.
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There were times in my tank when I wish I had a five point harness. Then again I enjoy not burning to death.
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The following brightened my Quarterdeck watch the other day; made me think of this conversation.William Tecumseh Sherman posted:In crossing the equator we had the usual visit of Neptune and his wife, who, with a large razor and a bucket of soapsuds, came over the sides and shaved some of the greenhorns; but naval etiquette exempted the officers, and Neptune was not permitted to come aft of the mizzen-mast. 'Hey LT, some weird poo poo is going to happen tonight, just stay in your cabin I don't feel like explaining it.'
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they started punching soldiers in the chest for velcro ranks in my cm unit and my soldier collapsed and had a collapsed lung lol BOYS BEING BOYS i was on staff duty though I missed it but it was great hearing about that one that got covered up
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Lying is what will really gently caress you in the military. If you gently caress up and cop to it then fine you get your punishment and that's the end. If you lie your life is going to go to poo poo sooner or later. wrong: I spent easter in a drunk tank and command never found out about it or my legal problems
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:they started punching soldiers in the chest for velcro ranks in my cm unit and my soldier collapsed and had a collapsed lung lol BOYS BEING BOYS Punching the chest is not great, and someone got a heart attack from it or some poo poo in a sister unit of mine.
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Wasabi the J posted:Punching the chest is not great, and someone got a heart attack from it or some poo poo in a sister unit of mine. Mmmmmmmmm lack of heart methinks.
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