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I'd sign loving everything as E4(P) in a heart beat if it meant avoiding being made a corporal. Holy good god is that ever being made the green weenie's mega bitch. Saw a lot (2) of good men lost to that rank. They were never (sober) the same.
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I'd understand SSG (P) if the guy has been a PSG for a long time as a SSG. Anyway, I bought a good plate carrier for 50% off and god drat was that a good purchase considering how often I'm wearing one. Weight difference from an IOTV is huge plus it's way easier to move in and around a stryker with a plate carrier.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:03 |
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Don't ESAPIs require the soft kevlar to be fully effective?
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:23 |
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You could wear a super tight PACA-style vest under it, it makes for a cozy combination with more free movement. It's pretty tackleberry though.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:25 |
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DoktorLoken posted:Don't ESAPIs require the soft kevlar to be fully effective? Yes. For any plates that aren't built and designated as stand alone, you need soft armor backing in order for it to be fully effective.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:28 |
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It's crazy to me that any unit would allow people to run around in a discount plate carrier, especially if deployed
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:30 |
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:It's crazy to me that any unit would allow people to run around in a discount plate carrier, especially if deployed My mind is broken by the unprofessional lack of uniformity
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:33 |
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My first contract with a private security company in Iraq, they issued airsoft-grade plate carriers with steel plates. I bought my own stuff cause I'm a total gear queer, and felt pretty good about it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:34 |
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It's not the uniformity, it's if there is ever an accident report good loving luck. IDK if its changed but when a dude got hit and disintigrated by an EFP in Iraq the first question on the full casualty report was "Was he wearing eye pro" "Was he wearing IBAS w/ Green plates" or whatever and good luck having to check NO to any of those kind of questions. There's reasons for those kind of rules, the same as if they let people use their own guns and poo poo. Sure, the issue poo poo may be lovely low quality or whatever, but its a KNOWN quality unlike whatever you're buying at the doomsday prepper store or whatever.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:46 |
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We can't just buy any plate carrier, and it was a sale going on at Tactical Tailor
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:49 |
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oh if there is like Army Approved ones then that is a different story! I didn't know that was a thing now.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:50 |
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Yeah, our unit has approved for use plate carriers. Too expensive for me, but at least they're trying. In more entertaining news, I saw a convoy brief today that involved driving to Yakima by going south to Portland, and then East. Have fun with that drive in those piece of poo poo strykers.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 02:56 |
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Yeah that's the alternate route that I myself might be taking. The convoys that left today originally were planning on taking the southern route instead due to weather but Snoqualmie pass was opened to oversize vehicles later in the day so they took that one instead. It's going to suck either way. Do you guys have the new double v hull strykers? They seem to hold up better than the old strykers that I'm pretty sure were from the initial fielding of strykers in the Army.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:01 |
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I thought the only Army approved ones were the soldier plate carrier system ones RFI gives out? I know there's the new MSV that's coming out next year that's pretty cool (If it sucks, I'm sorry. I was one of the testers and gave my input)
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:02 |
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Lol gently caress going the Portland route to Yakima. Never had to do it except when I was already out and drinking beers in Leavenworth when the pass got closed and I had to be home the next day. gently caress you if you're still in.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:05 |
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Yeah, we have the new strykers. I don't know what the difference is between them and the older versions. Hopefully not something to do with reliability, because then I can't imagine how bad they were before.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:08 |
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drat and I thought I was pushing it by removing the throat protector and crotch triangle.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:21 |
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That reminds me of an SFC having an aneurism that I had rolled my sleeves up. While in DCUs. At JRTC.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:23 |
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A Bad Poster posted:Yeah, we have the new strykers. I don't know what the difference is between them and the older versions. Hopefully not something to do with reliability, because then I can't imagine how bad they were before. The old ones I'm pretty sure were from the Army's initial stryker fielding and had sat in the motorpool doing nothing through multiple deployments. I know my unit's strykers had a lot of water damage when they got back late 2013/early 2014 from Afghanistan. We've only done one YTC rotation since having the new ones and they definitely hold up better than the old ones did on the way to YTC. It doesn't help that mechanics are only just now learning how to fix strykers since the General Dynamics contract meant that it was GD almost exclusively working on strykers until relatively recently, at least from what I understand anyway.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:30 |
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The water damage thing explains why they're so anal about the tarps. I know our mechanics have been pretty good at working on our trucks. Got to watch them change out an engine because some idiot put coolant in where the engine oil goes. $146,000 oopsie there.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 03:35 |
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Mustang posted:The old ones I'm pretty sure were from the Army's initial stryker fielding and had sat in the motorpool doing nothing through multiple deployments. I know my unit's strykers had a lot of water damage when they got back late 2013/early 2014 from Afghanistan. Yeah, 2008-2011 timeframe that I was at Lewis running strikers, basically anything barely into the level 2 maintenance zone was handed off to GD.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 05:36 |
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The double-V ones are more or less the same as the older ones, as I remember. This might sound stupidly obvious, but their condition just boils down to maintenance. Some of the flat-bottom trucks we had in garrison were really solid and some were steaming piles of poo poo that caught fire, and the double-V ones we had while deployed were no different. The one I had had a really wonky engine that wimped out as soon as it got going just barely fast enough to shift into sixth. Slowest truck in the troop by a measurable margin, what the gently caress.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 06:19 |
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Woof Blitzer posted:That reminds me of an SFC having an aneurism that I had rolled my sleeves up. While in DCUs. At JRTC. There was one glorious army day when we rolled up our sleeves in Africa. Then commander's discretion came along and killed everyone's fun.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 07:01 |
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The pipe dream gains some traction: beards in uniform??? tl;dr: Everybody knows that hair can prevent proper sealing of the existing M40/42 promasks. There exist masks that will work with a beard, but cost $$$. A good seal can still be had with a well-kept and trimmed beard, and this is still being studied by the Army. It could be a possibility at some point in the future. https://www.armytimes.com/articles/the-army-could-let-soldiers-grow-beards-no-seriously Army Times posted:The Army could let soldiers grow beards. No, seriously.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 21:42 |
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Dailey's relaxing of the tattoo rule and adamant "No, we're not changing the PT test" conveniently masked the force-shaping policies that were being used to thin out mid-career NCOs, so my question is what new policy is this hiding?
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 21:49 |
No more dip
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 22:03 |
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TBeats posted:No more dip Mutiny
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 22:04 |
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Mandate that all spitters must have lids at the least.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 22:29 |
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A Bad Poster posted:Mandate that all spitters must have lids at the least.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 22:51 |
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Naked Bear posted:The pipe dream gains some traction: beards in uniform??? i think youll find that most warrior cultures had sick beards :human being:
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 23:41 |
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This will basically out anyone who is only capable of growing a whispy pube stache, and a patchy trailer park meth beard. As you SHOULD be outed.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 23:42 |
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not caring here posted:This will basically out anyone who is only capable of growing a whispy pube stache, and a patchy trailer park meth beard. Man I shave my shame off every day no need to be harsh
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 23:45 |
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The gas mask excuse was always a flimsy one because if that's the case, just make people loving shave in the field and keep their facial hair trimmed in garrison.
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# ? Mar 7, 2017 23:48 |
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psydude posted:The gas mask excuse was always a flimsy one because if that's the case, just make people loving shave in the field and keep their facial hair trimmed in garrison. Just like contacts/glasses.
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# ? Mar 8, 2017 00:14 |
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What if every other day I "plan to grow a beard" then change my mind. I generally like being clean shaven but it's nice to skip days here and there.
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mlmp08 posted:What if every other day I "plan to grow a beard" then change my mind. I generally like being clean shaven but it's nice to skip days here and there. Then you should reenlist.
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# ? Mar 8, 2017 00:19 |
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TBeats posted:Then you should reenlist. Indef noble here. Literally the worst.
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# ? Mar 8, 2017 00:20 |
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On current deployments, aren't shavers on a quicker access than gas masks?
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# ? Mar 8, 2017 00:59 |
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Vahakyla posted:On current deployments, aren't shavers on a quicker access than gas masks? You still deploy with it. It just sits at the bottom of your duffel bag for 10 months.
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# ? Mar 8, 2017 01:05 |
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That's what I mean. In case the masks are ever dug out, you can just shave on the way to your duffel bag. It seems like a bullshit excuse, it's not like people are in full MOPP-preparedness out there nonstop just waiting to fight in gas.
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