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BiggerBoat posted:^^^no idea^^^ For as much as that fucker strawmaned the ACA and it's proponents, you'd think he could have at least arranged his own arguments better.
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How can you frame universal healthcare in a negative light other than "poors are getting some kind of benefit from MY SWEAT BLOOD AND TEARS"?
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Mar 7, 2017 16:22
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Vargatron posted:How can you frame universal healthcare in a negative light other than "poors are getting some kind of benefit from MY SWEAT BLOOD AND TEARS"? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/chaffetz-poor-americans-choose-health-care-iphones-article-1.2990611 quote:“We're getting rid of those things that people said that they don't want. Americans have choices, and they've got to make a choice. So rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and want to go spend hundreds of dollars on that, maybe they should invest in their own health care. They've got to make those decisions themselves.” Lame source but it's a direct quote so gently caress it I'm linking it anyway I'm a busy guy
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Mar 7, 2017 16:29
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The fact that there's even the chance they think healthcare is about a hundred dollars either makes then absolute villains, Futurama rich people parodies, or a combination of both.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:33
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Ainsley McTree posted:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/chaffetz-poor-americans-choose-health-care-iphones-article-1.2990611 They should sacrifice refrigerators and AC while they're at it too.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:33
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Vargatron posted:They should sacrifice refrigerators and AC while they're at it too. https://twitter.com/emmaroller/status/839104992590106624 I'm not even looking for these takes on purpose, they're just everywhere 
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Mar 7, 2017 16:34
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Look all I'm saying is if you aren't naked and dead in a gutter you have some disposable assets you could sell first before asking for my hard earned money.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:34
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What does it matter anyway, it's not like your boss will let you actually take time off of work and go to your doctor during the work day. After all, you get paid good money ($9/hour) to lay tile and you should bootstrap your way to a better job that doesn't ruin your knees and back.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:36
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/affordable-care-act-obamacare-health.htmlquote:People who let their insurance coverage lapse, however, would face a significant penalty. Insurers could increase their premiums by 30 percent, and in that sense, Republicans would replace a penalty for not having insurance with a new penalty for allowing insurance to lapse. We've eliminated the SOCIALIST MANDATE that you have health insurance, and the COMMUNIST TAX PENALTY system and replaced it with a freedom-loving provision that allows good ol' private enterprise to gouge you hard if your insurance lapses and by the way it's harder to get coverage now good luck out there choice choice choice At least they kept the ban on pre-existing conditions and lifetime maximums, I guess. If pre-existing conditions came back then that would be a super gently caress you combined with the new penalty system.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:40
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Yes but at that point, it's not the government loving you but rather the free market capitalist system (working as intended).
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Mar 7, 2017 16:42
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Ainsley McTree posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/affordable-care-act-obamacare-health.html It's also been pointed out that this way, the penalty goes into the pockets of the healthcare providers, instead of to the lousy government!
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Mar 7, 2017 17:11
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Tatsuta Age posted:It's also been pointed out that this way, the penalty goes into the pockets of the healthcare providers, instead of to the lousy government! And they will surely pass the savings on to us.
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Mar 7, 2017 17:15
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Radish posted:Republicans are a lost cause. The best we can hope is that they stay home but there is no way to get cross over votes and the sooner the DNC accepts this the better. hillary actually flipped a couple suburban counties in california and northern virginia that were republican strongholds of course that was totally offset by the massive losses in rural counties elsewhere which hadn't voted republican since the 19th century yet still went for obama twice
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Mar 7, 2017 17:46
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BiggerBoat posted:^^^no idea^^^ They deliberately sabotaged the ACA in any way they could while spreading outright lies about it. This wasn't a case of anything failing. Despite all of that many millions of Americans can today right loving now see a doctor if needed when a few years ago they could not but oh noes that involved more money passing through the IRS and a rich person being slightly inconvenienced! We had to create LAWS!!!! We had to turn down somebody's ability to profit! People dying of preventable disease is so much better than that.
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Mar 7, 2017 19:10
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I wonder if premiums will at least go down now that the helpless insurance companies are no longer forced to raise them to make a buck in our new socialist hellhole state.
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Mar 7, 2017 19:13
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BiggerBoat posted:He was throwing around terms like "high treason" and "coup d'etat". So just another Tuesday?
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Vargatron posted:What is Obama's angle for the wiretapping? Selling the US out to his Muslim overlords based in parts unknown? Making sure the dipshit didn't get elected is the one I've seen.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:They deliberately sabotaged the ACA in any way they could while spreading outright lies about it. This wasn't a case of anything failing. Despite all of that many millions of Americans can today right loving now see a doctor if needed when a few years ago they could not but oh noes that involved more money passing through the IRS and a rich person being slightly inconvenienced! We had to create LAWS!!!! We had to turn down somebody's ability to profit! People dying of preventable disease is so much better than that. Is there a good list on republican fuckery of the ACA? I've been wanting to find one.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:00
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Rush was laughing pretty hard on his show today, talking about how Trump totally owned Planned Parenthood by saying they could keep all their federal funding as long as they stopped doing abortions. But see, that's all Planned Parenthood does! They don't do anything for women's health other than abortions. So Trump totally owned those losers! Also Hannity was real mad about the new health care bill, saying that the GOP elites completely ignored the Freedom Caucus and good conservatives like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:33
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Vargatron posted:How can you frame universal healthcare in a negative light other than "poors are getting some kind of benefit from MY SWEAT BLOOD AND TEARS"? - You'll die waiting in line (Canada) - Death Panels (actually happened at the state level in Arizona, but I'm on the bus or I'd post the link) i.e., refusing you care because lol budget concerns http://abcnews.go.com/Health/News/arizona-transplant-deaths/story?id=12559369#.UaOZIJXEJz9 - FYGM - I never get sick so why should I pay - etc. - non- (read: un) American nations use it. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:Rush was laughing pretty hard on his show today, talking about how Trump totally owned Planned Parenthood by saying they could keep all their federal funding as long as they stopped doing abortions. But see, that's all Planned Parenthood does! They don't do anything for women's health other than abortions. So Trump totally owned those losers! Going to throw this out there, Planned Parenthood actually covers a variety of services from Breast Cancer Screening to Women's Hygiene Products. It's literally an all around support center for Women's health problems.
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Ainsley McTree posted:https://twitter.com/emmaroller/status/839104992590106624 Someone tweet this person back the  refrigerator.jpg
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Is there a good list on republican fuckery of the ACA? I've been wanting to find one. "Everything in it", including poo poo they used to support.
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Covok posted:Going to throw this out there, Planned Parenthood actually covers a variety of services from Breast Cancer Screening to Women's Hygiene Products. It's literally an all around support center for Women's health problems. I believe they were paraphrasing Rush, not espousing that PP only does abortions.
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So here are Breitbart headlines right now: 🔥This Is Fine.🔥 Pence Pushes Paul Ryan’s Obamacare Bill on Capitol Hill as House Republicans Push Back - …SPICER INACCURATELY CLAIMS BILL ‘FULLY’ REPEALS OBAMACARE… - …SEN. MIKE LEE OPPOSES - …GUTS ENFORCEMENT, GIVES ILLEGAL ALIENS HEALTH CARE THROUGH IDENTITY FRAUD…
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Covok posted:Going to throw this out there, Planned Parenthood actually covers a variety of services from Breast Cancer Screening to Women's Hygiene Products. It's literally an all around support center for Women's health problems. Yeah, but there's a gif floating around that points out "they only do 2% of the ones in the country", "you can get this elsewhere", "they don't do prenatal", "you can just buy a pregnancy test at the drugstore" and other "they only does 'bortions!" bullshit.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:…GUTS ENFORCEMENT, GIVES ILLEGAL ALIENS HEALTH CARE THROUGH IDENTITY FRAUD… ... so do they mean it doesn't defend against fraud stringently enough, so illegals can sneakily get healthcare, or are they saying that this is a secret program to help illegals commit identity fraud masquerading as a healthcare law? Because at this point, I'm honestly not sure exactly where the crazy barometer should be set.
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PJOmega posted:I believe they were paraphrasing Rush, not espousing that PP only does abortions. Yeah, I guess I should have put it in quotes, but that's a paraphrase of Rush. He was going on about how they don't do mammograms or cancer screenings or anything, just all abortions all the time. Oh and they provide counseling too...to talk women into getting abortions. Mister Macys posted:- I never get sick so why should I pay It should be noted this is one of the things Hannity was particularly focusing on today, that Obamacare forced young, healthy people to get health insurance that they didn't need, because they are young and healthy, and that it forced them to pay for the health care of older people and that's totally unfair. This completely ignores that one, this is how insurance loving works and two, gee, it's not like accidents ever happen or people suddenly get sick or diseased from something.
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The right wing blogs are currently going ballistic over the Vault 7 leak, and the big talking point I'm seeing is "THE CIA CAN SPOOF THEIR HACKS TO LOOK LIKE RUSSIANS DID IT THEREFORE THE DNC 'HACK' WAS ACTUALLY THE CIA!!!!1!" In addition to all the other conspiracy theorists feeling vindicated that the government really did "hack the planet", of course.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:The right wing blogs are currently going ballistic over the Vault 7 leak, and the big talking point I'm seeing is "THE CIA CAN SPOOF THEIR HACKS TO LOOK LIKE RUSSIANS DID IT THEREFORE THE DNC 'HACK' WAS ACTUALLY THE CIA!!!!1!" To be fair, Obama, being a Muslim Communist, would totally hack the centrist scum at the DNC and release the results.
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I'm more about the Vault 13 leak. That's why there isn't enough water people. WAKE UP!
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Shbobdb posted:I'm more about the Vault 13 leak. ITS TURNING THE RADFROGS GAY
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Twelve by Pies posted:it's not like accidents ever happen or people suddenly get sick or diseased from something. "Accidents" only happen to those who deserve it. Or what I saw on an actual poster in my province once: "There are no accidents in the workplace" (that it was always the fault of either employer negligence or user error/inattention)
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Shugojin posted:ITS TURNING THE RADFROGS GAY What the MUTANTS are doing to our SOIL!
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Mister Macys posted:"Accidents" only happen to those who deserve it. prevent-it.ca?
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BiggerBoat posted:"Everything in it", including poo poo they used to support. Some quick googling and I found what the Republicans did to the risk corridors after the passing. Holy poo poo. But it would be nice to see the specifics of when the bill was introduced, the hits it took during negotiation, and how it looked in comparison when it was all done.
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Rick_Hunter posted:prevent-it.ca? That link doesn't work. I wouldn't know, regardless. It was at least a couple years ago or more.
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Mister Macys posted:That link doesn't work. No, I was referring more to the ad campaign where people casually talk about themselves about to have an accident or calmly explaining why they hosed up while impaled by metal rods.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwCyVku1HvI
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Shbobdb posted:What the MUTANTS are doing to our SOIL! What the MUTANTS are doing to our NIGHTSOIL in their PERVERT LAIRS after we lose an ARM-WRESTLING CONTEST!
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endlessmonotony posted:What the MUTANTS are doing to our NIGHTSOIL in their PERVERT LAIRS after we lose an ARM-WRESTLING CONTEST! I first became aware of this, about 10 years ago, the summer my oldest boy Melchior Jr. died. You know that carnival that comes to town every year? Well this year it came with a ride called the Mixer. The man said "Keep your head and arms inside the mixer at all times." But Melchior Jr., he was a daredevil, just like his old man. He was leaning out saying, "Hey everybody! Look at me, look at me!" POW! He was decapitated. They found his head over by the iguana-on-a-stick concession. A few days after that, I open up the mail and there's a pamphlet in there, from New Reno, Nevada. And it's addressed to Melchior Jr. And it's entitled, "Do you know what the MUTANTS are doing to our NIGHTSOIL?"
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