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Maybe I'm dumb but isn't Rand Paul one of the people that will only be satisfied with zero health care, repeal only type poo poo? I get all my Rand Pauls, Paul Ryan, Ayn Rands, and Ron Pauls ideas mixed up
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:That's the issue though, there's not a good way to establish that illegal spying (or illegal information sharing where it's not outright spying) is not still going on and from the information that has gotten out there's good evidence that these agencies have regularly flouted the law. If there was legitimate oversight it would be a different conversation, but recent leaks have been very clear that intelligence agencies are outright lying to the people that are supposed to have the authority to reign them in - and this has not resulted in any consequences. The oversight thing is what I'm concerned about. I can't think of a good way to confirm if an oversight committee is actually making sure no illegal spying is going on or if the committee is just telling the public nothing illegal is going on without putting everything out for the public to see.
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I just can't understand what kind of special moron thinks that a nation-state conducting legitimate foreign intelligence activities is not right or appropriate. Like how do you come to that conclusion, it's a beyond stupid point of view.
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DoktorLoken posted:I just can't understand what kind of special moron thinks that a nation-state conducting legitimate foreign intelligence activities is not right or appropriate. Like how do you come to that conclusion, it's a beyond stupid point of view. Maybe because the CIA has a long and storied history of doing things above and beyond the realm of normal intelligence activities? Like, fine, they do spy poo poo, everyone does that. They also have carried out assassinations and overthrew democratically elected governments, in addition to trafficked narcotics to fund black operations. Lets not pretend the CIA is some innocent and law abiding agency, it's clearly not.
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The Iron Rose posted:See poo poo like this is why I was pissed about Manning's commutation. If anything, abuses should have been reported to the appropriate inspector general / intelligence chair committee person in the house/senate. There needs to be a better system of abuse reporting or some death by powerpoint slideshow which I'm sure is covered by the death by opsec slide deck. The real problem, is that there is a large population of autistic sperglords in our countries intelligence system.
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Subjected asylum patients to months of covert LSD dosing just for kicks. Also regularly dosed Johns in a couple different cities, again just to see what would happen. Oh and also was so flagrant about the whole thing that it hit the papers.
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If I were looking to take advantage of this WikiLeak to discredit the intelligence community, and I were Russian, it seems like a good time to try to tie the drug epidemic there to CIA activity. “The Americans are responsible for kratom and Trump must reduce their influence!!”
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VikingSkull posted:Maybe because the CIA has a long and storied history of doing things above and beyond the realm of normal intelligence activities? Like, fine, they do spy poo poo, everyone does that. They also have carried out assassinations and overthrew democratically elected governments, in addition to trafficked narcotics to fund black operations. Don't forget the United Fruit stuff! There are lots of legitimate reasons to not like the CIA so leaks like this just look bad. This is also a time where theoretically the CIA could become compromised and then what happens with all that data they got?
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The folks at r/the_donald are in an absolute tizzy over this Vault 7 stuff. Basically, every suspicious death in the last 10 years has been the result of CIA hacking. Also, they now believe that the CIA engineered the purported Russian collusion in the election and is now trying to tie it to Trump. Basically it's just an extension of the Infowars forums at this point.
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Deathy McDeath posted:The folks at r/the_donald are in an absolute tizzy over this Vault 7 stuff. Basically, every suspicious death in the last 10 years has been the result of CIA hacking. Also, they now believe that the CIA engineered the purported Russian collusion in the election and is now trying to tie it to Trump. Seems legit.
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VikingSkull posted:Maybe because the CIA has a long and storied history of doing things above and beyond the realm of normal intelligence activities? Like, fine, they do spy poo poo, everyone does that. They also have carried out assassinations and overthrew democratically elected governments, in addition to trafficked narcotics to fund black operations. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
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Deathy McDeath posted:The folks at r/the_donald are in an absolute tizzy over this Vault 7 stuff. Basically, every suspicious death in the last 10 years has been the result of CIA hacking. Also, they now believe that the CIA engineered the purported Russian collusion in the election and is now trying to tie it to Trump. I mean let's be honest here, just say what we're all thinking.
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I'm surprised it's a smile.
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A Bad Poster posted:I'm surprised it's a smile.     
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This article almost makes me feel sad for the staf- no wait gently caress them all with the NSA Wizard's special magic wand. https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/839310737793298432
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Softface posted:opsec Colonel Shim was unable to be reached for comment Oh nevermind... on itLake of Methane posted:If I were looking to take advantage of this WikiLeak to discredit the intelligence community, and I were Russian, it seems like a good time to try to tie the drug epidemic there to CIA activity. “The Americans are responsible for kratom and Trump must reduce their influence!!” That would require the Russian government to acknowledge its drug and HIV problem, which they refuse to do.
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Don't they also have a massive tuberculosis epidemic among their prison population?
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I've always been curious about the reason why it's that smilie in a yellow box in the first place. I'm not USG though so I might be missing something obvious.
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I'd say it's surprising to see Trump double down on a bill that even breitbart doesn't support but at this point nothing is actually surprising. Also it's going to be amazing to see Trump go up against the AARP if he actually does go all in on repeal
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Gee I wonder what that old fart Rudy Giuliani is up t- https://twitter.com/WatermanReports/status/839131826912432128 
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Office Pig posted:Gee I wonder what that old fart Rudy Giuliani is up t- "Its not a pyramid scheme, honest!"
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https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/839303461225312258 Even the NRA has a really weird, shady Russia connection. Definitely tied to that Sheriff Clarke rear end in a top hat, loosely tied to Flynn. Bonus points for some Russian dude deeper in the tweetstorm that thinks Alaska belongs to Russia. Fun little rabbit hole this Russia poo poo continues to be.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/839303461225312258 The funny thing is these idiots (Clarke, Flynn, etc) think Russia likes them and what not because of shared conservative values and genocidal thoughts on Islam. I mean, even assuming that one day any of these useful idiots realizes how badly they've been used, I would love to see the looks on their faces at the exact moment they realize that they've been compromised.
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Handsome Ralph posted:The funny thing is these idiots (Clarke, Flynn, etc) think Russia likes them and what not because of shared conservative values and genocidal thoughts on Islam. They legitimately don't give a gently caress any more. Russia gives them money and attention, whereas the US laughs at and dismisses them. It would not surprise me at all if they've managed to internalize being marginalized during the Obama years as "this entire country has gone bad, the people like me are the only ones who aren't bad and can save it".
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psydude posted:Don't they also have a massive tuberculosis epidemic among their prison population? In 2000 about 10% of the prison population had active Tb. The vast majority of cases of Tb are latent. Prisoners are 58 times more likely to die of Tb than the general population. Percentage of Latent Tb in Various Russian Professions: Primary health care providers: 39.1% Medical students: 8.7% TB hospital health providers: 46.9% TB laboratory workers: 61.1% The WHO recognized this as a serious problem and began addressing it in the 2000s and the rates have gone down since then but still remain astronomical compared to here.
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