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Pattonesque posted:a little bit on branching paths in Andromeda Small problem with that "People were upset you couldn't save both the quarians and the geth, and you'll have to make that kind of hard decision here" line: you totally could save them both and it's not even hard if you're paying a whiff of attention in 2 and 3.
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Pattonesque posted:a little bit on branching paths in Andromeda This article mentions no time pressure. Everyone's chilling in cryo stasis so feel free to explore all you want!
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Which seems to run a bit counter to that aggro woman in the Nexus video going "WE'RE DYING, RYDER. loving FIND THOSE PATHS," to be honest.
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Pattonesque posted:a little bit on branching paths in Andromeda If anyone believes any part of that article, good Lord...
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BrianWilly posted:Which seems to run a bit counter to that aggro woman in the Nexus video going "WE'RE DYING, RYDER. loving FIND THOSE PATHS," to be honest. That kinda feels like an early-game problem to me? Like, once you make contact with the Nexus and find a habitable world, then you can chill a bit
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Cythereal posted:Small problem with that "People were upset you couldn't save both the quarians and the geth, and you'll have to make that kind of hard decision here" line: you totally could save them both and it's not even hard if you're paying a whiff of attention in 2 and 3. but the line is "in Mass Effect 3 a lot of people were really disappointed that they didn’t save both the Geth and the Quarians. I did, and that was definitely the better path."
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Cythereal posted:Small problem with that "People were upset you couldn't save both the quarians and the geth, and you'll have to make that kind of hard decision here" line: you totally could save them both and it's not even hard if you're paying a whiff of attention in 2 and 3. That's not really true, successfully saving both is the longest decision chain in the series, requiring you making the correct choice in a few 50/50s spread across two games when you had no idea of the consequences. Even if you imported a save into ME3 (most people didn't) you still need to have been lucky with your earlier choices to save both.
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Milky Moor posted:If anyone believes any part of that article, good Lord... quote:Sure, maybe, after ages and ages. It’s funny you should say that. For the first time in my career – I’ve been doing games for 15 years – this is the first time in my career I haven’t played myself through all the possibilities in a game I’m going to release. Just because it’s too much – it’s too time consuming. That's some purestrain Sean Murraying there.
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SgtSteel91 posted:The last briefing explicitly said the AI would respect the sovereignty of existing alien species and look for coexistence with them. well i'm from buenos aires and i say kill em all
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Varam posted:The entire Andromeda Initiative is ridiculous. Who decided to let humans in on the extragalactic expedition when they've only been on the galactic stage for two decades? Its humanity's initiative, we are letting the other guys tag along rather than the other way around.
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Pattonesque posted:a little bit on branching paths in Andromeda this game is gonna be good
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SgtSteel91 posted:This article mentions no time pressure. Everyone's chilling in cryo stasis so feel free to explore all you want! Ryder finds a a crying child. "What is wrong, little buddy?" "My mommy is still in cryo. Daddy says you won't thaw her out. Why do you hate us?" "Tell you what. I'll have you and your Mom back together in no time." "You will!? Thanks, Pathfinder!" Ryder returns child to cryostasis and busts the tech for thawing out non-critical personnel for personal reasons. Proceeds to catch venereal disease on New Tuchanka.
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peanut- posted:That's not really true, successfully saving both is the longest decision chain in the series, requiring you making the correct choice in a few 50/50s spread across two games when you had no idea of the consequences. Even if you imported a save into ME3 (most people didn't) you still need to have been lucky with your earlier choices to save both. What's hard about it? Do Tali's and Legion's loyalty missions, get them to make peace, do both Rannoch sidequests, and you're done. The only thing I can see tripping people up is saving the admiral's crew rather than the admiral himself, and even that works out if you destroyed the heretics in ME2. It's not like you haven't spent the entire series getting preached at about the importance of teamwork.
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fridge corn posted:this game is gonna be good My expectations are getting dangerously close to positive.
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A lot of ME3's more interesting decision points come from scenarios that most players will never see, because ME2 encourages you to complete every mission, and who would deliberately ignore Tali or Legion's loyalty? But yes, in the absence of a truce you should definitely kill the Quarians.
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CottonWolf posted:My expectations are getting dangerously close to positive. Some producer saying "you can do anything you want at zombocom" is like marketing tactics 101, if they've got all these great branching paths then let's see an example of them in action.
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Wow harsh treatment of space gypsies itt
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moist turtleneck posted:I hope Ryder has nightmares that involve chasing down children in the woods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTKJEtzuj-4&t=2217s
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Cythereal posted:What's hard about it? Do Tali's and Legion's loyalty missions, get them to make peace, do both Rannoch sidequests, and you're done. The only thing I can see tripping people up is saving the admiral's crew rather than the admiral himself, and even that works out if you destroyed the heretics in ME2. No outcome in Mass Effect is "hard", they're all just the result of making choices or completing missions. But saving the Quarians and the Geth is one of the only moments in the series where the outcome is dependent on blind choices you made ages ago which weren't obviously worse than the alternatives. Sure if you look it up beforehand the decision path is trivially easy, but if you don't loads of people will rewrite the Geth heretics and save the Admiral's crew, or not complete Tali's ME2 loyalty mission with charm/intimidate dialogue.
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Avalerion posted:Its humanity's initiative, we are letting the other guys tag along rather than the other way around. It's human-led, but the entire project is based on Quarian/Geth data on the Heleus cluster. Anyway, the humans being in charge is part of why it's so nonsensical. The humans had literally just gained access to the Milky Way and were still in the early stages of colonizing it; why are they launching hail mary passes at distant galaxies when there's no shortage of resources or living space back home, and why would any of the established species choose to tag along with the new guys who absolutely do not know what they're doing given that they've just arrived on the galactic stage?
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Varam posted:It's human-led, but the entire project is based on Quarian/Geth data on the Heleus cluster. Anyway, the humans being in charge is part of why it's so nonsensical. The humans had literally just gained access to the Milky Way and were still in the early stages of colonizing it; why are they launching hail mary passes at distant galaxies when there's no shortage of resources or living space back home, and why would any of the established species choose to tag along with the new guys who absolutely do not know what they're doing given that they've just arrived on the galactic stage? Because a lot of people did not like the ending to 3 and wanted to figuratively get as far away from anything to do with the Reapers as possible. You suspension of disbelief for the story of MEA hinges on thinking MEA as a soft reboot to the setting
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you know how they added in ammo counts to mass effect 2 coming from mass effect one and the in-game logic was a flimsy piece of veneer meant to give it legitimacy and the real explanation was "we wanted ammo to be a mechanic in our combat system" ME:A's setting is that
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Cowcaster posted:you know how they added in ammo counts to mass effect 2 coming from mass effect one and the in-game logic was a flimsy piece of veneer meant to give it legitimacy and the real explanation was "we wanted ammo to be a mechanic in our combat system" So, well worth the handwave then.
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Varam posted:It's human-led, but the entire project is based on Quarian/Geth data on the Heleus cluster. Anyway, the humans being in charge is part of why it's so nonsensical. The humans had literally just gained access to the Milky Way and were still in the early stages of colonizing it; why are they launching hail mary passes at distant galaxies when there's no shortage of resources or living space back home, and why would any of the established species choose to tag along with the new guys who absolutely do not know what they're doing given that they've just arrived on the galactic stage? If it helps you just imagine that there were groups within the other races who considered it but never wanted to make the investment. Then some filthy rich human decides he wants to make his mark in history and fund it. You're willing and someone else is paying, win-win situation? I mean everyone thought Walt Disney was crazy for building a theme park in the middle of orange grove country in Florida. Obviously the AI is a much bigger scale but it is the same basic concept. If someone else is paying the idea is a lot more palatable.
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I thought the Andromeda initiave was like a plan b to escape the reapers?? I really haven't been paying much attention
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Captain Oblivious posted:So, well worth the handwave then. considering what me3 was i think them claiming superman flew around the universe in loops to rewind time would be a valid handwave to get rid of it
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Pattonesque posted:a little bit on branching paths in Andromeda I read it all, but in my head it just says "It's a binary system, but we don't color code the text for you".
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fridge corn posted:I thought the Andromeda initiave was like a plan b to escape the reapers?? I really haven't been paying much attention Nope, the AI was started like 10 years before Mass Effect 1 and was purely about exploring the Andromeda galaxy and establishing a trade route between it and the Milky Way galaxy
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fridge corn posted:I thought the Andromeda initiave was like a plan b to escape the reapers?? I really haven't been paying much attention Nope. Some of the head honchos of the initiative might have expedited things because of believing Shepard, but the Andromeda Initiative was founded long before the Reapers were a thing and was not centered around such an idea. Which makes sense because the Andromeda Initiative left the Milky Way before the events of Arrival and thus the majority of the galaxy did not know about Reapers or think they were a real thing even if they did, so getting the amount of people who signed up for the Andromeda Initiative to sign on on the basis of "galaxy destroying super synthetics are coming!" probably wasn't gonna fly.
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If I can't end ME: Andromeda by turning all the stars in the galaxy into Zaeed's face frowning at the Milky Way, I want my money back.
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Keru posted:If I can't end ME: Andromeda by turning all the stars in the galaxy into Zaeed's face frowning at the Milky Way, I want my money back. 
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Gonna leave all the colonists in stasis, have Ryder grow a beard, and go soaring through the galaxy. "It's me, PB, annoying Asari. Friend of Wee Man Ryder. Weeeeee-eeeeeee-eeeeeee."
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I'd try to Passengers prank them, leave the entire cryo section of the ship devoid of all human life, have them wander around for hours thinking something went wrong before stumbling out to the surprise party waiting for them in the atrium.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Nope. Some of the head honchos of the initiative might have expedited things because of believing Shepard, but the Andromeda Initiative was founded long before the Reapers were a thing and was not centered around such an idea. The bit from Liara in Alec Ryder's cabin makes me think it's going to be exactly this. Like, maybe they were going to be a bit more leisurely about it at first, but they probably sped it up significantly once Sovereign attacked
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exquisite tea posted:Isn't Liara still some nobody grad student at the time this Pathfinder mission would be chartered? She would have been a solitary researcher in Prothean ruins at this time going by what she says in ME1.
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exquisite tea posted:Isn't Liara still some nobody grad student at the time this Pathfinder mission would be chartered? It's best not to think too hard about those type of plot holes. I'm just hoping we get to deal with a Krogan/Asari that was awake for the whole 600 year trip.
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exquisite tea posted:Isn't Liara still some nobody grad student at the time this Pathfinder mission would be chartered? Yeah pretty much. Her narrating an audio history is kinda weird.
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