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A. Beaverhausen posted:Hey, guess what? Y'all were right and DC isn't about to let this opportunity fly by. They already made R-rated Constantine.
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babypolis posted:I liked the more subtle aspect of the lovely dystopian future where everything is ruled by evil corporations (I mean even more so than right now). Just getting a card from the Alkali or whatever it was called company is enough for superhero Wolverine to lose his poo poo. They bring a bunch of mexican federal police to try to murder a little girl and corporate security forces can murder people at will I like that it goes completely unchallenged by all, even the black family stand-in for middle america. Like, their beef with the BIG FARMING is their water, no one in this movie is in a position to challenge the established hierarchy. America deserves this future.
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babypolis posted:I liked the more subtle aspect of the lovely dystopian future where everything is ruled by evil corporations (I mean even more so than right now). Just getting a card from the Alkali or whatever it was called company is enough for superhero Wolverine to lose his poo poo. They bring a bunch of mexican federal police to try to murder a little girl and corporate security forces can murder people at will Logan loses his poo poo because the Alkali Corp are linked to Alkali Lake and the Weapon X project.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Hey, guess what? Y'all were right and DC isn't about to let this opportunity fly by. Hell yeah time for some Superboy ripping arms on the big screen.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:I always thought that the trick of telepathy-blocking helmets in X-stories was the shape and/or special plating, not the material used to make it (this of course varies depending on canon, timeline, and writer but I digress). This also goes for Cerebro; a main plot point in X2 is that swapping the panel configuration around directly affects the amplification of psychic abilities. In Logan, the big dome they have Xavier housed in is missing chunks. A lot of squarish, panel shaped, almost strategically placed chunks. Is it because they're living in the middle of the desert in lovely future world and that's the best approximation they could find, or is it because Logan knew enough to try and imitate the Cerebro design in a way that puts a damper on Xavier's abilities when he has a seizure freakout? I mean, the important thing is that the fallen water tower looks likes Cerebro. Cerebro has basically reflected Professor X in every movie so it makes sense that this one would be old, broken and ineffective.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Hell yeah time for some Superboy ripping arms on the big screen. Just imagine Zach Snyder directing an Identity Crisis movie. If you thought Catwoman or Suicide Squad was the absolute nadir of comic book movies 
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Mar 8, 2017 20:03
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:How strikingly inambitious everything in the movie is, and the structure and the pacing of the story. Aside from the few action scenes, there was almost nothing that couldn't be replicated on television. The scene of Wilson finding himself an outcast comes to mind, in particular. The budget didn't seem to help this: the evil lab and the X-Men school would easily pass for TV sets. Blind Al specifically comes off across as a character written as if they were being introduced in a TV pilot and going to be expanded on later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HuFuKiq8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6GCEQVSOOs scenes in a Television Show.
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Mar 8, 2017 20:04
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:They already made R-rated Constantine. And Watchmen. And, though no theatrical release, the extended cut of Batman v Superman past year.
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CelticPredator posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HuFuKiq8U Maybe we should stop using "looks like TV" as a disparagement and instead say "looked like it was filmed on an Asylum set" instead
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Does Spawn count as well? New Line - Time Warner - Warner Bros
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I was wondering who the gently caress was Dr Rice for a long time and then I laughed out loud in the middle of the movie at a completely inappropriate time when I realized it was Richard Grant from Posh Nosh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmku-8kSxzM&t=297s
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CelticPredator posted:scenes in a Television Show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQYwFND7rHE
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Everything about this is amazing. Every shot is a dolly shot and it also makes me hungry for Subway. So poo poo.
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CelticPredator posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HuFuKiq8U That's not TV. That's HBO.
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Since we're now on full product placement derail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdfN8MMpp6w
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MacheteZombie posted:Does Spawn count as well? There's also Blade, which was very successful. This whole "oh my gosh 'R' rate comic movies are a thing now?" is happening because, I assume, most entertainment writers have zero cultural memory of anything before 2008 (and even then, they slept on Punisher: War Zone which is unforgivable)
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MacheteZombie posted:Does Spawn count as well? No because Spawn was PG-13.
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Dolph Lundgren Punisher came out in '89 and was a hard R. It's weird, Louis Gossett Jr. gives this amazing dramatic performance in such a schlocky film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkjQEBvcAdE SimonCat fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Just imagine Zach Snyder directing an Identity Crisis movie. If you thought Catwoman or Suicide Squad was the absolute nadir of comic book movies You shouldn't besmirch an Oscar winner. A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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The movie is well made and has a couple good scenes in it, but the final fight felt strangely underwhelming, and the script doesn't have an original idea in it. There's more to making a 'grown-up' super hero movie than upping the violence and adding a few swears. Patrick Stewart is a treasure and the highlight of every scene he's in.
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I saw this last night and was very entertained. It was a more "human" super-hero movie. Jackman and Stewart's bantering was always a treat as well.
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CelticPredator posted:No because Spawn was PG-13. Really? IMDB says R and google has both an R and pg13 to make it extra confusing. Was there a DC for Spawn that I don't remember?
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MacheteZombie posted:Really? IMDB says R and google has both an R and pg13 to make it extra confusing. Was there a DC for Spawn that I don't remember? If I remember right, there was an R version and a pg-13 version. In video cassettes at least. It may have only shown in theatres as the pg-13 version.
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CelticPredator posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HuFuKiq8U All this shows is that Deadpool is not even good television.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:If I remember right, there was an R version and a pg-13 version. In video cassettes at least. It may have only shown in theatres as the pg-13 version. The theatrical version was the PG-13 version because I remember hearing Spawn say "Bitchin'!" as his cape deploys when he falls out of that building, then when the home release came out, they redubbed it so he was like "gently caress yeah!" or whatever. I thought it was real hilarious hearing Spawn say bitchin' in the theater so I was pretty disappointed that they decided to extreme it up for the home release.
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ruddiger posted:The theatrical version was the PG-13 version because I remember hearing Spawn say "Bitchin'!" as his cape deploys when he falls out of that building, then when the home release came out, they redubbed it so he was like "gently caress yeah!" or whatever. 
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Back on the subject of the movie, thinking about it, the first scene where Logan meets the head of security is pretty great. It shows him far wolverine has fallen that this guy who knows all about him feels comfortable getting close to him and threatening him. And it also shows how poo poo his legacy is that a guy like that considers himself a fan. I will admit that I didn't like how they instantly crossed over the border from Mexico to Vegas. Especially because they had shown the border is heavily policed, and they were driving a shot up and scarred limo.
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This film wassssss way more political then I thought. From the faded liberty motel sign (overt shots that linger on it) To references to the wall (drunken people yelling USA) Villain named Donald who had a skull and cross bone tattoo with what looked to be Trumps toupee. Even at the end where said Donald is beaten and defeated by a bunch of minority children. White mutant male kids were absent. There is one that was all reptilian, but he completely disappeared at the end. Also, most if not all the reavers were white who had no genetically superior gifts (i.e mutant powers), so they had to artificial create them through capitalism run amok (white male privilege). It is even the minorities who die at the hand of white male rage (Mexicans and the Black farming family) Even Professor X can be seen as a white moderate whose passivity and paralysis causes the "mutants" to die and be rounded up. Surprisingly woke.
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Death By The Blues posted:This film wassssss way more political then I thought. Written two years ago too, so life became more accurate than art thought.
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Isn't one of his limo passengers in the montage a construction tycoon type, with a Bolo tie saying "We're making a killing up (all?) along the wall" or something very similar? Logan himself seemed equally indifferent to upper and lower class characters and the degraded nature of society, mirroring how people generally ignore things like political/government engagement because grandpa needs pain meds and you can't afford a good care home and similar (imminent real life issues)
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The people riding in the limo are basically the Kardashians, Eric Trump & Friends, and Dick Cheney.
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Anyone else find themselves disgusted when one of his knuckle claws only half came out? 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:You're 100% right, except they already made that movie and Batman realizes he was wrong at the end of it. He definitely does not.
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Bit of a vanity move that the only thing that can kill Wolverine is... another Wolverine. But it really redeemed and gave great closure to a character who I always thought was over-exposed, like the Joker.
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Steve2911 posted:He definitely does not. Sure he does. Bruce admits that he failed Superman by not believing and trusting him (3:05ish), and resolves to honor him and his methods in death by not murdering/branding people anymore.
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Steve2911 posted:He definitely does not. I'm sorry you didn't pick up on this, but yes he definitely does. There's a big speech at the end and everything. Here's the official synopsis for Justice League, to be used in all marketing material: quote:Fueled by his restored faith in humanity and inspired by Superman's (Henry Cavill) selfless act, Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) enlists newfound ally Diana Prince to face an even greater threat. Together, Batman and Wonder Woman work quickly to recruit a team to stand against this newly awakened enemy. Despite the formation of an unprecedented league of heroes -- Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and the Flash -- it may be too late to save the planet from an assault of catastrophic proportions. Bolding mine. Anyway this is the Logan thread, so if you want to continue this let's go over to the General Comic Book Discussion side and yack about it.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Considering the cues X-24 takes from Terminator, does seem like a reference. And Terminator takes cues from Westworld so Logan is just westerns all the way down.
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CelticPredator posted:No because Spawn was PG-13. The "director's cut" on DVD is R. It's not a huge difference, but the action scenes have actual squibs in them and flow a decent bit better in it, plus there's some added cursing and a couple raunchier Clown jokes.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:They may as well have THIS IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT PAY ATTENTION flashing on screen during the sequence where the characters settle down for a moment to watch and discuss Shane. What's worse - when they do this, or when a there's a scene in a classroom in the film that has a professor or instructor spell out one of the film's major themes?
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