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Kirios posted:The Switch actually really owns. Haters are either A. Trolls, or B. Are unable to buy a Switch and are lashing out like a manchild. maybe we need two threads so people who get defensive about the new nintendo thing can go in there and poo poo that thread up as well it'll be just like the wii u years, we could even buy new emoticons to indicate when we're going to SWITCH back to our preferred thread
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Mahoning posted:Sometimes, a console is so bad that even amazing games won't get people to buy them. It wasn't the games that failed the Wii U, but the release of like 2-3 marquee titles a year. People aren't going to buy your system when big titles are spaced 6-8 months apart. I think Nintendo has learned their lesson and is at least getting indie devs on board early. The Switch also has the niche of being portable, so I hope that keeps it afloat since I don't buy that big list of third party devs anymore than when they did the same for the Wii U.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:11
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How hard could it be to make a third party dock for this thing that is affordable?
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Mar 8, 2017 22:12
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Housh posted:Nintendo systems have the best couch multiplayer games. I hope the trend continues with Switch. Snipperclips absolutely owns as a couch multiplayer game. A couple beers in and the game is absolutely bonkers fun
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Inzombiac posted:Zelda armor: Please don't post Zelda spoiler outside of the Zelda thread.
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Switch owns, Wii U owns, Nintendo owns. Haters DO NOT own.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Maybe you just don't like Zelda games. Which is totally fine! Ocarina got these same gushing reviews and you never played it? He probably just already had his fill of Ubisoft games
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irlZaphod posted:Puyo Puyo Tetris is $30, same as PS4. SFII is $40 because Capcom are insane. He mentioned physical. Which is $39.99. The physical version of the game on PS4 is $29.99. Albeit I guess you are paying $10 for a free keychain with the Switch version? http://www.gamestop.com/games/puyo-puyo-tetris-nintendo-switch/141921 Someone mentioned that the Eshop version is $29.99 however, but that isn't the physical edition as he was talking about. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Utnayan posted:To be fair, BOTW isn't like any other Zelda game out there. Like, at all. So, if he doesn't like this one, it may be he really likes the previous installments. He didn't play any 3D Zeldas ever before this one so 
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fivegears4reverse posted:maybe we need two threads so people who get defensive about the new nintendo thing can go in there and poo poo that thread up as well careful, i believe this suggestion is a trigger to begin renaming the thread
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Utnayan posted:C.) Wish Nintendo would pull their heads out of their rear end and either make a console that matches today's value consumer standards when compared to their competition, even if it is underpowered, or go 3rd party and wrap up the hardware business altogether. You're never going to buy Mario and Zelda games on Steam for 10 dollars on a Steam Sale, stop deluding yourself.
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Mahoning posted:On a technical level, no. But we don't consume games technically, we consume them experientially. I don't have any more fun playing a game because the console has more teraflops or something. I do if I can easily play it with friends and family. Other consoles have had working multiplayer for... 40-ish years?
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Mar 8, 2017 22:14
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Kirios posted:You're never going to buy Mario and Zelda games on Steam for 10 dollars on a Steam Sale, stop deluding yourself. I don't want too. I want to buy a Mario/Zelda game with their great mechanics to be displayed natively (Or even Checkerboarded at this point) on a 4k HDR TV via Ps Pro or Scorpio and pay $59.99 with a solid frame rate that doesn't drop into the 20's on 900p/720p.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:15
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We should stop posting like a bunch of crabs in a pot full of turds imho You dudes are right about the Wii U gamepad being generally underused. Most games ended up with a map or inventory there and while that's nice it's not the most imaginative thing you could do with it. I don't think that makes it a poo poo console, the games are good and that's the best measure of a console imo.
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Another thing that will never happen. You're being entirely unrealistic with your expectations. Not to mention if Nintendo were to fail in the hardware business, it would mean huge layoffs and shifts. Whatever Mario / Zelda you got would likely be heavily bastardized by the time it went 3rd party. This is a future you do not understand.
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Astro7x posted:How hard could it be to make a third party dock for this thing that is affordable? Well, whatever is doing the lockout has to be reverse engineered first unless they license from Nintendo and I wouldn't imagine that'd be that much cheaper than their own.
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Switch is Good, and I feel sorry for anyone who got a messed up console. I got a bricked Wii and that sucked poo poo. I hope the next batch of consoles is more reliable.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:18
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Utnayan posted:I don't want too. I want to buy a Mario/Zelda game with their great mechanics to be displayed natively (Or even Checkerboarded at this point) on a 4k HDR TV via Ps Pro or Scorpio and pay $59.99 with a solid frame rate that doesn't drop into the 20's on 900p/720p. Nintendo will leave the game market before going 3rd party.
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Kashuno posted:Snipperclips absolutely owns as a couch multiplayer game. A couple beers in and the game is absolutely bonkers fun Snipperclips should be the bundle game, not 1-2 Switch. But what they really need is Switch Sports
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Mar 8, 2017 22:20
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Kirios posted:Another thing that will never happen. You're being entirely unrealistic with your expectations. It's the only thing that saved Sega. It may come down to them not having a choice.
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Utnayan posted:It's the only thing that saved Sega. It may come down to them not having a choice. Nintendo will have to entire a hell of a downward spiral to reach that point, though. You have to admit that fact. Roadie posted:Snipperclips should be the bundle game, not ftfy
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Roadie posted:Snipperclips should be the bundle game, not 1-2 Switch. 1-2 switch isn't bundled either. Which is whatever, I'd consider getting it if it cost as much as Snipperclips
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Yeah, Sega 3rd party post Dreamcast is exactly what I was referencing to. Sega pre crash and post crash were/are two entirely different companies. You don't have any unique or quirky games from them anymore. RIP Jet Set Radio, you were too good for this world. Not to mention Sonic. But sure, feel free to point to Sega as your example of it "working."
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Mar 8, 2017 22:23
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uh there are dozens of people in this thread jazzed about a new lovely sonic
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THE loving MOON posted:1-2 switch isn't bundled either. 
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HyperPuma posted:uh there are dozens of people in this thread jazzed about a new lovely sonic And it's because fans of classic Sonic finally convinced Sega to stop loving it up and let the fans make it for them. Why are you people making my points for me?
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Kirios posted:Yeah, Sega 3rd party post Dreamcast is exactly what I was referencing to. Sega pre crash and post crash were/are two entirely different companies. You don't have any unique or quirky games from them anymore. Keep in mind, our perspective as "hardcore gamers" is kind of... warped? Sonic has games coming out pretty much annually and a currently-airing TV series. It's a merchandising powerhouse. It's practically the definition of a successful franchise. Those games being terrible has little impact on the process.
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Kashuno posted:Nintendo will have to entire a hell of a downward spiral to reach that point, though. You have to admit that fact. Oh for sure. But the Wii U started that. But aside from just console business, with decisions like this one... (Basically forgoing licensing revenue on Pokemon Go and not restructuring that and instead, making a pokemon go accessory) well, kind of defines they need a drastic change of the guard. They cannot move their cheese and adapt to the current market place. When they crash, it will be fast and hard. https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/25/nintendo-pokemon-go-shares-stock-fall/ It's these continual mistakes that will hurt Nintendo more and more... The console failures will just be the tipping point. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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deadly_pudding posted:Keep in mind, our perspective as "hardcore gamers" is kind of... warped? Sonic has games coming out pretty much annually and a currently-airing TV series. It's a merchandising powerhouse. It's practically the definition of a successful franchise. Sure, and I do agree with this point. However, he's selling it as "Now I get to play Mario and Zelda on 4k Scorpio!" or whatever. Yeah, you get to play the Mario equivalent of Sonic Unleashed in 4k . That sounds...awful.
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HyperPuma posted:uh there are dozens of people in this thread jazzed about a new lovely sonic
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Kirios posted:Yeah, Sega 3rd party post Dreamcast is exactly what I was referencing to. Sega pre crash and post crash were/are two entirely different companies. You don't have any unique or quirky games from them anymore. You only believe this because you haven't played the Yakuza games. Yakuza is basically "What if Sega made a good video game as opposed to Shenmue, and then was successful enough to not need a kickstarter to finish a story nobody actually cares about."
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what about the mario equivalent of sonic 2006
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HyperPuma posted:what about the mario equivalent of sonic 2006 Mario can already kiss a human-proportioned woman 2.5x his height.
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Sir I have played every Yakuza game but 0. I adore that series. It's a bloody miracle that we even get that here. I cherish it. However, it's definitely a unique shining spot on an otherwise bloody track record for Sega after the Dreamcast.
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Kirios posted:Sure, and I do agree with this point. However, he's selling it as "Now I get to play Mario and Zelda on 4k Scorpio!" or whatever. I am not talking about 3rd party producing and Nintendo publishing. I am talking about Nintendo 1st party titles being developed in house (By Nintendo), developed for 3rd party Consoles. Also, Comparing Sega and Nintendo in the development business isn't fair. Nintendo destroyed Sega in that area, and always will. Sega fails not because of the switch (No pun intended) into software development/publishing, Sega fails because it's Sega. That doesn't mean the same thing would happen with Nintendo. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Maybe you just don't like Zelda games. Which is totally fine! Ocarina got these same gushing reviews and you never played it? Didn't buy much of anything in 1998. I had just moved out of my parents house and was living on $1,000 per month. Zelda games before BotW have never appealed to me but well crafted open world games do, and I liked what I saw from BotW. If it was getting 8 out of 10s instead of 10s I probably wouldn't have bothered. But I have the means, and I can return the Switch before April, so why not give it a shot? I gave Horizon a shot recently too despite doubts and now consider it one of my fav games ever. Same with Witcher 3 - didn't like Witcher 2 but Witcher 3 is amazing. Gotta always give new stuff a chance.
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Utnayan posted:I am not talking about 3rd party producing and Nintendo publishing. I am talking about Nintendo 1st party titles being developed in house (By Nintendo), developed for 3rd party Consoles. And you don't think Nintendo failing to such an extent to no longer make hardware would have a...negative result on the quality of their products? There would be a mass exodus of talent at Nintendo.
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Utnayan posted:Oh for sure. But the Wii U started that. But aside from just console business, with decisions like this one... (Basically forgoing licensing revenue on Pokemon Go and not restructuring that and instead, making a pokemon go accessory) well, kind of defines they need a drastic change of the guard. They cannot move their cheese and adapt to the current market place. When they crash, it will be fast and hard. I sincerely miss Iwata's personality, but Kimishima is a business man like Yamauchi was, and I think that will be far more beneficial to Nintendo in the long run.
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irlZaphod posted:There are people saying that a new Sonic game looks pretty good, but are prepared for it to be pretty bad. Sonic Mania at least looks like a sure bet. Sonic 2017 is a coinflip at best.
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Kirios posted:And you don't think Nintendo failing to such an extent to no longer make hardware would have a...negative result on the quality of their products? No. Did the failure of the Wii U stop the quality of the 1st party titles released for it?
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