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The Beedrill stone just reminds me of how weird some of their picks for who got megas were. I get that they are trying ot retroactively make some of them usable, but who wanted Beerdrill? Who sat there and thought, "Yeah, the Kanto starter bird needs a good buff right about now." At leas some of them look kinda goofy to make them fun. Like Mega Slowbro.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:40
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Hrist posted:The Beedrill stone just reminds me of how weird some of their picks for who got megas were. I get that they are trying ot retroactively make some of them usable, but who wanted Beerdrill? Who sat there and thought, "Yeah, the Kanto starter bird needs a good buff right about now." At leas some of them look kinda goofy to make them fun. Like Mega Slowbro. I wanted Beedrill.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:41
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Wasps are mad scary and Mega Beedrill is badass.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:42
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I won't allow anyone to say bad things about my good friend Mega Beedrill. Mega Pidgeot is poo poo though, feel free to insult that one. Mega Fearow or Mega Dodrio would've been so much better, or hell, why not Mega Staraptor? That could be genuinely useful.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:43
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Mega Pidgeot is cool! And its new stat spread and ability fills an interesting niche! Staraptor's already great, Dodrio's been mostly caught up with its new stat boosts and that's all Fearow would need to be useful what with its unique access to Drill Run.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:46
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Blaze Dragon posted:I won't allow anyone to say bad things about my good friend Mega Beedrill. Mega Pidgeot is cool. Mega Staraptor is unnecessary, as Staraptor is already kinda OK. Pidgeot just flat out sucked before Mega. The ones that made the least sense to me were Medicham and Audino. Beedrill I just forgot about.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:47
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Mega Audino is a Mega designed for doubles but it's just kinda lovely. Mega Medicham is really just a generic power boost but it also comes with a really useful speed increase.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:49
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Hrist posted:Who sat there and thought, "Yeah, the Kanto starter bird needs a good buff right about now." I did and I'm glad now, thanks
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Mar 8, 2017 22:50
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Where would you put the 100 points on Mega Staraptor though? SPATK would be pointless, and boosting his attack any higher than it is would be pretty ridiculous. As much as I'd love to see something dumb like an Aerialate Return on a mega staraptor. e: Pompador bigger than the sun. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 22:54
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I wanted Beedrill.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:57
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Nah, just give it Scrappy as an ability and add 25 points to everything but Sp.Atk and HP. Presto, now it eats Spiritomb and Sableye for breakfast.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:00
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Where's my Mega Crobat with Merciless/Aerialate, 30 more in attack, 20 more in speed, and 25 and 25 in the defenses? HUH, GAME FREAK?!
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Mar 8, 2017 23:02
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Hrist posted:The Beedrill stone just reminds me of how weird some of their picks for who got megas were. I get that they are trying ot retroactively make some of them usable, but who wanted Beerdrill? Who sat there and thought, "Yeah, the Kanto starter bird needs a good buff right about now." At leas some of them look kinda goofy to make them fun. Like Mega Slowbro. Is it from gen one? Okay quota filled.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:04
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I want a Mega Spiritomb. My favorite goofy rear end ghost.  And give it something like Prism Armor so it can go back to having no weaknesses. (They better nerf Fairy a bit in the next gen. It doesn't need to be Ice minus like 3 weaknesses.)
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Mar 8, 2017 23:08
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Rangpur posted:Nah, just give it Scrappy as an ability and add 25 points to everything but Sp.Atk and HP. Presto, now it eats Spiritomb and Sableye for breakfast. This would make it hit less hard against everything else though cause it would lose Reckless.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:22
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Kurieg posted:Where would you put the 100 points on Mega Staraptor though? SPATK would be pointless, and boosting his attack any higher than it is would be pretty ridiculous. As much as I'd love to see something dumb like an Aerialate Return on a mega staraptor. Remember that mega evolutions lose their item, so if they're not gaining a big offensive ability they need those huge stat gains just to keep their attacks from getting weaker. And Staraptor already has an ability to power up its most common attacks--if you gave it Aerialate you could just straight up dump +100 Attack on it and Return still wouldn't hit as hard as Reckless Choice Band Brave Bird on regular Staraptor. I like megas that explore new niches, too, so you could do something like +50 Attack/+50 Defense with Intimidate (allowing for double Intimidate shenanigans), play up the tankiness of an Intimidate mon with Roost that still hits hard enough to scare things off.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:24
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To be fair, I really can't even think of what I would want to have megas anyway. I was happy enough with Mawile. But some of them just seem really random. Starters, sure. Mewtwo, of course. But then it gets to that tier of picks where they might as well be, 'Uh... what about Mega Torcoal?' I think that's my hang up with Pidgeot and Beedrill and stuff. I feel like new move pools would do a lot more than just raising stats. Gen 1 bugs especially have that stigma in my mind of being not great, outside of Butterfree having psychic moves pretty early.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:27
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Hrist posted:To be fair, I really can't even think of what I would want to have megas anyway. I was happy enough with Mawile. But some of them just seem really random. Starters, sure. Mewtwo, of course. But then it gets to that tier of picks where they might as well be, 'Uh... what about Mega Torcoal?' I would like Mega Torcoal too if i'm being honest.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:29
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Mega Camerupt is soooooooooooo laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:31
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Dabir posted:This would make it hit less hard against everything else though cause it would lose Reckless. Along similar lines there's Flygon and Garchomp. Garchomp gets to evolve into a speedy wall-breaker, so Flygon gets to evolve into MODOGK (Mega Organism Designed Only for Garchomp Killing). Hell, it can even keep the Levitate ability. Just make it Dragon/Fairy and dump everything into Speed, Attack and Special Attack. Now it's a legit threat, but still goes down to one STAB Ice Shard/Bullet Punch.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:41
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Straight White Shark posted:Remember that mega evolutions lose their item, so if they're not gaining a big offensive ability they need those huge stat gains just to keep their attacks from getting weaker. And Staraptor already has an ability to power up its most common attacks--if you gave it Aerialate you could just straight up dump +100 Attack on it and Return still wouldn't hit as hard as Reckless Choice Band Brave Bird on regular Staraptor. Eh, Not everything needs to be "but how will this play in doubles." Sometimes it's nice to just have a 'mon that's good for casually playing through the game. All the neat dudes I decided to use in SuMo are so ludicrously slow and evolve so late, I'm just glad that the berry farm has given me more sitrus berries than I know what to do with.
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Mar 8, 2017 23:42
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here's how they decide which mega stones + moves + move sets + any other curious things get added: gamefreak 1: i made a cool thing gamefreak 2: i just added it
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Mar 9, 2017 00:43
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It's also partially based off of if they can come up with a design for one. Flygon was planned to have a mega, but didn't get one solely because they couldn't come up with a good design.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:46
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Dr. Fetus posted:It's also partially based off of if they can come up with a design for one. Flygon was planned to have a mega, but didn't get one solely because they couldn't come up with a good design. I'm actually mad now that I've heard this
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Mar 9, 2017 00:53
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No wait, guys... Guys, I've got it!  Perfect.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:55
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Before they made snorlax stand up they could have made him the easiest mega ever.
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Mar 9, 2017 00:57
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FishBulb posted:Before they made snorlax stand up they could have made him the easiest mega ever. Nah, snorlax lying passed out is the mega. Give him the sleepy koala thing's ability and let him be a status absorber.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:03
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Snorlax is also easy: he has a heart attack and dies. Now he's Normal/Ghost thereby removing his biggest flaw, which is that Close Combat is a move which exists.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:03
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WRT terrible gen 1 Pokemon that could use a mega, Rapidash is still awful while Arcanine has always been decent and Ninetales got Drought, and Seaking has always been terrible forever.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:08
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Mega Seaking's ability is "people briefly remember that Seaking exists."
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Mar 9, 2017 01:12
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Mega Seaking's ability is Multitype
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Mar 9, 2017 01:48
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Straight White Shark posted:Mega Seaking's ability is "people briefly remember that Seaking exists." Seaking at least had that brief gently caress Yeah Seaking meme-ish thing way back. I like Seaking well enough. I think you're thinking of Lumineon, for Pokemon that is most often accompanied by "Who?"
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Mar 9, 2017 03:13
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Luminenon is the Pokemon everyone immediately goes to when the topic of ignored pokemon comes up, which basically means that it can't be the most ignored pokemon.
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Mar 9, 2017 03:15
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[solemnly] i know lumineon, and frankly all of the monsters
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Mar 9, 2017 03:17
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Luminenon is the Pokemon everyone immediately goes to when the topic of ignored pokemon comes up, which basically means that it can't be the most ignored pokemon. That's honestly a good point. I wonder who the most genuinely forgettable Pokemon is then. Would we even be able to remember? Maybe Qwilfish?
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Mar 9, 2017 03:22
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stantler, girafarig and swalot are up there. edit: carnivine
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Luminenon is the Pokemon everyone immediately goes to when the topic of ignored pokemon comes up, which basically means that it can't be the most ignored pokemon. Can confirm. I almost used it instead of Torcoal.
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Eox posted:stantler, girafarig and swalot are up there. I completely forgot Carnivine was a thing. I think I could name every Pokemon, from a picture at least, but I would have been completely stumped by this guy. EDIT: Ooh, Volbeat and Illumise.
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Mar 9, 2017 03:26
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Straight White Shark posted:Mega Seaking's ability is "people briefly remember that Seaking exists." I remember when lightning rod got changed so it absorbs electric attacks.
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Reminder that Pineco exists. Forretress is memorable cause competitive, but it evolves from a loving PINECONE. e: Tyrogue is also extremely forgettable e2: CHINGLING. THE MOST FORGETTABLE POKEMON
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