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Philip Rivers posted:I was counting Fortify Res from Azura which gives *blade spells +4 attack. Oh word. I still think if you're running Azura you should stick with Julia. If you're not buffing Nino to her full potential you'll probably miss some OHKOs. Lucina/Azura/Julia/Takumi is a really solid team with good coverage; you'll be able to handle most teams except maybe multiple takumis. If you're trying for a high ranking you'll probably need characters with higher stat totals though
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Philip Rivers posted:How well do Nino and Azura work together compared to Nino and Olivia? Will I miss that +4 attack in terms of important ORKOs? Nino works better with Olivia since that +4 attack is actually +8 damage, and +res isn't important for Nino since she's a OHKO type of pro. That being said, if you can get a +atk from somewhere else, this is irrelevant since Azura is better than Olivia otherwise. Sharena has +def AND +atk which lets Nino snipe nerds that hit back like Hector or Takumi a bit better. Personally, I find that bringing Matthew has upped my Nino game-- he gives +spd, and can inflict -4Def/Res on dudes he hits (+7 poison damage) which lets Nino finish off particularly tough dudes a bit better than normal.
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fairlight posted:Oh word. I still think if you're running Azura you should stick with Julia. If you're not buffing Nino to her full potential you'll probably miss some OHKOs. I'm gonna test out Lyn/Azura for the sweet Galeforce procs but that's probably the most balanced team I can field, yeah. Do mages have a stat penalty the same as bows and daggers? Also, unique weapons almost definitely just means Prf weapons, which right now would be: Falchion, Naga, Tyrfing, Mystletainn, Cymbeline, Binding Blade, Durandal, Sol Katti, Armads, Sieglinde and Siegmund, Raijinto, Fujin Yumi, Byrnhilder, and Yato (probably Dark Breath/+ too). Oh, and the ones Shareena/Alphonse/Anna get. Am I missing any? jokes posted:Nino works better with Olivia since that +4 attack is actually +8 damage, and +res isn't important for Nino since she's a OHKO type of pro. That being said, if you can get a +atk from somewhere else, this is irrelevant since Azura is better than Olivia otherwise. Sharena has +def AND +atk which lets Nino snipe nerds that hit back like Hector or Takumi a bit better. Personally, I find that bringing Matthew has upped my Nino game-- he gives +spd, and can inflict -4Def/Res on dudes he hits (+7 poison damage) which lets Nino finish off particularly tough dudes a bit better than normal. I can always just run Lucina too which I probably will anyway in any serious teams I'm fielding. I think neutral HP/Def Nino can tank a shot from +Atk Takumi though? So Def buffs aren't so important in that matchup. Philip Rivers fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 22:24
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Actually yeah, Lyn is probably better than Lucina because you have Julia to kill dragons, but check if Julia can OHKO young Tiki. Galeforce is sick if you can get it to proc but it's so slow to build.
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What's the effective against bonus in this game, anyway? I wanna say Julia doesn't one shot Young Tiki but I'm not sure.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:30
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Mar 8, 2017 22:33
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Then +Atk Julia can one shot -HP/Res Young Tiki but not in any other case sans buffs. I'm a dummy and forgot to check my Julia's IVs so I'll get back to you on that one.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:40
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That's why God invented crystals? I took a 3* F Robin to lvl 20 4* through shard things. I felt.. gipped. Partly because of that cost, and partly because F robin is terrible.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:42
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In case you missed it, they added extra orb payouts of 15 and 20 for 8b/10b total votes. Lucina already has almost 4b on her own so they might up that target another time, but looks like everyone is gonna get a free 5 pull either way! 
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Mar 8, 2017 22:44
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Rascyc posted:You should still get the top 10k rank if you aim for 470'ish. Pretty much. I'm not thinking they're exactly wringing their hands over game balance in a pay-to-win phone game.
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With a score of 3.759 billion for Lucina and 1.402 billion for Sharena we are already above the 5 billion mark.
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Philip Rivers posted:Then +Atk Julia can one shot -HP/Res Young Tiki but not in any other case sans buffs. I'm a dummy and forgot to check my Julia's IVs so I'll get back to you on that one. Tiki is pretty common so it's good to have a plan. Azura can probably counter her, either with sapphire lance or by giving Julia another attack. I wish my Lucina wasn't -spd +res. At least defiant speed mitigates that a bit.
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Hunt11 posted:With a score of 3.759 billion for Lucina and 1.402 billion for Sharena we are already above the 5 billion mark. 2.35 billion total votes in the Leo vs Ephraim bracket. So we're certainly at 8 billion overall. Probably already have the 10 honestly. Philip Rivers posted:Then +Atk Julia can one shot -HP/Res Young Tiki but not in any other case sans buffs. I'm a dummy and forgot to check my Julia's IVs so I'll get back to you on that one. Julia has like 35 res, so it's not like she can't take a hit from Tiki if she needs to.
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Philip Rivers posted:Then +Atk Julia can one shot -HP/Res Young Tiki but not in any other case sans buffs. I'm a dummy and forgot to check my Julia's IVs so I'll get back to you on that one. I don't think this is actually the case. +atk julia has 52 atk, -hp or res tiki has 67 hp+res. Triangle disadvantage brings julia down to 52*0.8=41.6, truncated to 41, then effectiveness brings it to 41*1.5=61.5 damage, truncated to 61. Tiki survives with single digit hp. This matches my personal experience with +atk Julia, where she does a lot of damage but misses the OHKO.
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Roger Explosion posted:This is the most insufferable game mode. That's 10 games in a row with unwinable teams. This is more frustrating than fun and not really worth the feathers. Roger Explosion posted:Oh boy, I love versing 6 arena teams in a row with some combination of 40+10 Julias/Lucinas/Hectors and Azuras. These game is being a right loving oval office of late by consistently putting me in unwinable situations. consider the following two scenarios: a) the matchmaking algorithms in this game have gone haywire in the past few days in such a way that you and you alone are being given matches that are mathematically unwinnable b) you're on tilt
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Mar 8, 2017 23:13
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Nuebot posted:After getting stomped by him so many times, I really want a Ryoma. Ryoma's really one of those heroes that is more effective on defense than on offense. He's got high damage and speed but his unique selling point is that he has distant counter from his weapon, which means that some teams just straight up can't really handle him.
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I have a pickle. I only need one Olivia, but I have three presently. One is +HP/-Atk. One is +Def or +Res I forget which, but is definitely also -Atk. The third is +Atk/-Res, but is 3* to the other two's 4*. I'm not sure what to do, since the second Olivia is also level 35-ish.
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Clarste posted:I don't think it would kill her viability. If you're even thinking about promoting her, you must have some sort of buff synergy in place, right? So she's getting like +8 Atk at least, and the differences become less meaningful. On the other hand, having +Spd and being able to double people you couldn't double before is amazing. For example, with +Spd and a Spd buff, Nino can ORKO Lucina, which is pretty cool. I have Eirika, the combo of her and Tharja has been doing a lot of work for me even with the latter at 4* so I might just go all-in on the buff team. It would be better if I had Azura, but I could theoretically use my next set of feathers on Sharena a third buff and more weapon triangle coverage and stick with Lucina until then. Unless I were to pull another buffing unit in the meantime, of course. I also just pulled Oboro, who looks to maybe be a viable piece in a buff team thanks to Rally Defense? Not quite as useful as Fortify since she can't take her own turn, but I'll have to experiment with it some.
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Christ trying to run a perfect Arena with F-Robin is like loving pulling teeth. She can't kill anything because her attack and speed are such garbage.
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't think this is actually the case. +atk julia has 52 atk, -hp or res tiki has 67 hp+res. Triangle disadvantage brings julia down to 52*0.8=41.6, truncated to 41, then effectiveness brings it to 41*1.5=61.5 damage, truncated to 61. Tiki survives with single digit hp. I assumed the formula was additive the way gem weapons work, am I mistaken?
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sassassin posted:I guess they didn't anticipate everyone blowing their entire flag supply in the first two days, Hey, at least this means that for people like me who didn't use all of them (I still have 500) it will be all the easier to get good personal rank in the next rounds! I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Stephen9001 posted:Hey, at least this means that for people like me who didn't use all of them (I still have 500) it will be all the easier to get good personal rank in the next rounds! I'm saving mine for the finals.
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Philip Rivers posted:I assumed the formula was additive the way gem weapons work, am I mistaken? It's multiplicative. It doesn't matter because none of the manaketes can actually deal much damage to Julia through her 37 defensive resistance.
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akulanization posted:It's multiplicative. It doesn't matter because none of the manaketes can actually deal much damage to Julia through her 37 defensive resistance. Young Tiki 2 shots Julia but doesn't have Ranged Counter so it's not a huge deal unless you're positioning is bad.
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't think this is actually the case. +atk julia has 52 atk, -hp or res tiki has 67 hp+res. Triangle disadvantage brings julia down to 52*0.8=41.6, truncated to 41, then effectiveness brings it to 41*1.5=61.5 damage, truncated to 61. Tiki survives with single digit hp. Unlike everything else, weapon disadvantages are ceilinged, not floored  This is probably because all multiplications get truncated, but disadvantages are calculated as code:code:hit button fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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akulanization posted:Ryoma's really one of those heroes that is more effective on defense than on offense. He's got high damage and speed but his unique selling point is that he has distant counter from his weapon, which means that some teams just straight up can't really handle him. A problem I always forget about though is Tharja. You don't really want to try baiting a Tharja with Ryoma since he won't double her on the counter attack and it just sets up some bad stuff. If more speedy red mages get added to the game then he's gonna have a problem. But yeah all my teams revolve around my Ryoma. He was my reroll 5* and he's been worth it. Rascyc fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Ryoma falls into all the issues that other swordlords have, namely that a good lance user can disintergrate him cause his defense is paper, but distant counter is still really good to have against mages I suppose.
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akulanization posted:2.35 billion total votes in the Leo vs Ephraim bracket. So we're certainly at 8 billion overall. Probably already have the 10 honestly. Eirika vs. Elise is currently at 1.47 billion to 549 million, so that's another 2 billion there.
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Ryoma is a big buff lobsterman. Lucina, Lyn, and Ryoma are all xtreemely strong and good. Marth is also fantastic but in a different way.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Christ trying to run a perfect Arena with F-Robin is like loving pulling teeth. She can't kill anything because her attack and speed are such garbage. Yeah, I tried her in the tower and she's so bad. Like, male Robin, he's got pretty meh stats, but he's got a niche. What he hunts, he kills, and he's got a nice handful of regular targets. She targets... blue mounted mages. And I've seen her doing 0 damage to ones around her level, so she's not even good at the one thing she's supposed to be good at. Shameful.
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Oh don't get me wrong, sword lords are pretty good units, and Lucina is a powerful waifu, it's just that I run an Abel with lucina and he eats those guys for breakfast.
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AweStriker posted:I have a pickle. I only need one Olivia, but I have three presently. Definitely use a 4-star one, that's +7 overall stats and 2k more feathers saved to your next 5-star. If you merge the other one, it's also 2k saved towards a potential 5-star Olivia. -Atk isn't that bad for Olivia, she's not really used as an attacker. -Spd is much worse. You should already have another red attacker, especially since the current princess banner gives you ~9% of getting 5-star if you pick only reds and use the optimal pulling method. I'd use the +HP one, or just settle for the higher-level 4* if you can't be assed to re-level her.
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are there multiple tiers for the voting battle quests? i can't reliably clear 8th stratum yet (lol) so i hope im not missing out
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It's level agnostic and how you spend your flags is how you are ranked. Go nuts. Oh I misread your question, nevermind.
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There's only one tier as far as I know.
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GLAAD trash bags posted:Oh don't get me wrong, sword lords are pretty good units, and Lucina is a powerful waifu, it's just that I run an Abel with lucina and he eats those guys for breakfast. Oh yeah, Abel's existence is farting on sword lords
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Clarste posted:Is anyone here on Team Chrom and able to report on exactly how that match-up is going? Chrom is currently winning 1.2B to 300M.
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