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H.P. Hovercraft posted:the "higher standard" is not simply taking their word for anything and that all laws apply to them extra-hard "Your honor I believe that police officers, in their attempts to be like Judge Dredd, should be treated as such and held to the strictest standards. That's why I support the death penalty for any police officer who is found committing a crime while on duty."
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Mar 8, 2017 00:22
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a well-deserved, overwhelming defeat for a corrupt and predatory federal government
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Evil Fluffy posted:"Your honor I believe that police officers, in their attempts to be like Judge Dredd, should be treated as such and held to the strictest standards. That's why I support the death penalty for any police officer who is found committing a crime while on duty." Uh, it's 20 years on Titan. 
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https://twitter.com/mblack0311_mark/status/839582328246542336 https://twitter.com/mblack0311_mark/status/839582388116045825 https://twitter.com/mblack0311_mark/status/839582438800011264 https://twitter.com/mblack0311_mark/status/839582486782889984 Mark McConnell was the informant who told the feds of the plan/route to John Day that ended up with Finicum getting shot, fwiw
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ansel autisms posted:https://twitter.com/mblack0311_mark/status/839582328246542336 I hate twitter so much. This is worse than trying to read reddit. 
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I look forward to another of these incidents happening with Trump in office as his response will definitely be rational and not either total agreement with the occupiers or ordering an immediately full scale assault on the compound.
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They actually took a full day to deliberate? That's good, right? I can't remember but I feel like the last one was them going into a room for an hour, and complaining that someone was being unreasonable and booting him out, then slapping down not guilty as soon as he was gone.
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Krinkle posted:They actually took a full day to deliberate? That's good, right? I can't remember but I feel like the last one was them going into a room for an hour, and complaining that someone was being unreasonable and booting him out, then slapping down not guilty as soon as he was gone. That was after like a week of deliberations.
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Uhm, a jury starting at 8 and leaving at 4:30 is pretty normal. My juries tended to start at 10 (because if you're not going to work, why wake up early) and ended at 4 (because after 4, you have to pay people OT). Yeah, you can deliberate later if you really, really want, to but it isn't encouraged, and if everyone had work paid jury duty, gently caress that.
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Can one of our legal goons comment on why it's a bad idea to publicly talk about items in discovery? https://twitter.com/ElaineSoCal/status/839347967882493952
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Evil Fluffy posted:I look forward to another of these incidents happening with Trump in office as his response will definitely be rational and not either total agreement with the occupiers or ordering an immediately full scale assault on the compound. Trump will absolutely not respond to white people asserting their right to someone else's property.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I look forward to another of these incidents happening with Trump in office as his response will definitely be rational and not either total agreement with the occupiers or ordering an immediately full scale assault on the compound. But the president is a white man again so why would they need to occupy somewhere else?
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Mar 9, 2017 08:47
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calling it for a hung jury
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Like we talked about last time, this is bad. It means at least one and probably more of the jurors want them to get off.
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I'm going to be hopeful.
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WrenP-Complete posted:I'm going to be hopeful. lol Edit: Yes, me too. 
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WrenP-Complete posted:I'm going to be hopeful. Can you describe this for me I've forgotten what "hope" feels like
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Who the gently caress voted Not Guilty for the firearms charge? Were the guns imaginary? Also didn't Bundy admit to the conspiracy in the first place?
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So they convicted each defendant on at least one charge, and each charge got at least one conviction. Interesting.
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I mean at least it's better than "I personally disagree with the law, therefore no crime was committed and you're all free to go", but still doesn't seem to match the facts of the case.
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chitoryu12 posted:I mean at least it's better than "I personally disagree with the law, therefore no crime was committed and you're all free to go", but still doesn't seem to match the facts of the case. “The truth is always somewhere in the middle.” 
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chitoryu12 posted:Who the gently caress voted Not Guilty for the firearms charge? Were the guns imaginary? Proving that there were guns there is different from proving that this specific person had guns in his personal possession at the place. I'm guessing that's what the jury got hung up on.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:57
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This is better than last time!
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I mean, the event is stupidly well documented. I am not familiar with the actions of those four specifically, but how could their not be evidence of them there with guns?
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Platystemon posted:I mean, the event is stupidly well documented. juries are regular-rear end people regular-rear end people are so loving stupid that we got president trump
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I agree with some of the commentators online that this was likely a "horse-trading" verdict- they literally split and traded charges to ensure that they were all found guilty of something, but not everything, regardless of the case, because there was someone being obstinate about something stupid (probably the conspiracy charge). Still a massive improvement.
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a well-deserved, mediocre defeat for a stupid and misguided group of rednecks
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My question is can the state now pursue Bundy for perjury? Can they flip some of these defendants on the others who walked?
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No, it it not fair. Bundy got a better lawyer.
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Discendo Vox posted:My question is can the state now pursue Bundy for perjury? Can they flip some of these defendants on the others who walked? I feel confused about your sidetext now. I have just learned that CSPAM/FYAD/YOSPOS are the non-grey forums.
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chitoryu12 posted:Who the gently caress voted Not Guilty for the firearms charge? Were the guns imaginary? Bundy admitted to the conspiracy, but that may not have been enough to prove that each of these individuals was a party to the conspiracy. It looks like they considered the evidence for each charge for each defendant, which is what a jury is supposed to do. It would have been more satisfying if they'd gone "all these guys are guilty as hell" but that also would have been really weird after the first trial's results.
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WrenP-Complete posted:I feel confused about your sidetext now. I have just learned that CSPAM/FYAD/YOSPOS are the non-grey forums. BYOB too.
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