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Mister Olympus posted:Honestly this game suffers the most from sticking to pre-SM series traditions. Death to HMs. It's hard to blame it for that, considering it came out a few weeks before SM.
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Mister Olympus posted:Honestly this game suffers the most from sticking to pre-SM series traditions. Death to HMs. Yeah, I'm very glad to see HMs gone, but I'm hoping the next Gen lets you swap Poke Rides for your own Pokemon, within a certain number of species, similar to how in Pokemon Stadium 2, you could get alternate Pokemon models in some of the minigames if you had the right Pokemon in your PC (like replacing Furret with Girafarig). Like, instead of Tauros, maybe you'd rather ride a Bouffalant or Gogoat, they could probably break rocks with their heads, too. I'd imagine having either a key item or new PC functionality for registering your Pokemon. I like that Sun/Moon gave a surprisingly logical explanation for why you're stuck with the preset Pokemon (they're specially-trained service Pokemon), but I really want the personal touch of using my own Pokemon to overcome obstacles.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:45
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rannum posted:Yeah. Until XY, all starters only had a basic attack and some stat up/down attack (Growl, Leer, Withdraw etc). I really REALLY need to finish X/Y. It includes my new favorite pokemon even! (after snorlax) Love you Sword-looking-pokemon.
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Mar 9, 2017 01:51
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Gridlocked posted:I really REALLY need to finish X/Y. I get the impression that Steel's resistance to Ghost and Dark were removed specifically so the Honedge line wouldn't be completely overpowered. If its only weaknesses were Fire and Ground, Aegislash would be pretty devastating, I'd think.
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EclecticTastes posted:Yeah, I'm very glad to see HMs gone, but I'm hoping the next Gen lets you swap Poke Rides for your own Pokemon, within a certain number of species, similar to how in Pokemon Stadium 2, you could get alternate Pokemon models in some of the minigames if you had the right Pokemon in your PC (like replacing Furret with Girafarig). Like, instead of Tauros, maybe you'd rather ride a Bouffalant or Gogoat, they could probably break rocks with their heads, too. I'd imagine having either a key item or new PC functionality for registering your Pokemon. I like that Sun/Moon gave a surprisingly logical explanation for why you're stuck with the preset Pokemon (they're specially-trained service Pokemon), but I really want the personal touch of using my own Pokemon to overcome obstacles. That's basically how Capabilities in that pokemon TRPG system I mentioned work. For all the weird poo poo it does, especially in regards to trainers' fighting abilities, it has some genuinely good ideas in there.
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Mar 9, 2017 02:07
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It's pretty loving devastating as is, man. Aegislash is one of the reasons Sableye was a fixture on my teams for the entirety of Gen VI. (Mega-Kangaskhan was another.)
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Mar 9, 2017 02:07
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yes, this was the case for all starters until the release of X and Y, which gave them a move that was the same type as them. It's also worth mentioning that starters never normally have abilities like Static or Flame Body: their abilites normally is Overgrow, Blaze or Torrent (depending on the type), which powers up Grass/Fire/Water moves if the starters HP i below half. I understand wanting to give starters better abilities from the start instead of having them locked away as hidden abilities, but then of course situations like what happened with grass cat is a potential issue.
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Carlioo posted:It's also worth mentioning that starters never normally have abilities like Static or Flame Body: their abilites normally is Overgrow, Blaze or Torrent (depending on the type), which powers up Grass/Fire/Water moves if the starters HP i below half. I understand wanting to give starters better abilities from the start instead of having them locked away as hidden abilities, but then of course situations like what happened with grass cat is a potential issue. I'd argue that Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent are actually pretty optimal starter abilities for the starter design space in the core game, which is about being a player's strongest resource in the early game, when resources are thin on the ground and it's possible player skill is a little shaky. (Every first-party Pokemon game is going to have a ton of new players and/or kids, after all.) "Power up at low HP" abilities give resource-strapped players an improved ability to turn around encounters when they don't have a lot of options, which I'd argue is more useful to new players in the early game than something luck-based like Static or Flame Body, even if Static/Flame Body are arguably better overall. Swapping it out is really a symptom of Uranium clearly being designed by and for hardcore Pokemon optimizers who consider the base game trivial, alongside such symptoms as hiking up the level curve, giving NPC trainers "challenge" with broken strategies that don't match player resources, and "Nuzlocke mode."
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Begemot posted:It's hard to blame it for that, considering it came out a few weeks before SM. That's enough to have still technically been in development when Ride Pokemon were announced. No mercy. 
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Color Printer posted:Also I'm 99% sure you can change this with scripting so I don't know why it's not part of the Pokemon Essentials package. It's also something that can be evented in the older non-scriptable engines, so it really boggles the mind.
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Begemot posted:There hasn't been a game set in poke-India yet. Duh. gently caress this'd be a stellar idea India is like, purpose-built to be an RPG map because it was literally in reality extremely hard to get in or out of the place unless you were amazing at boats or didn't care about the most ridiculously hostile environments in the world at its borders. All sorts of cool poo poo in the area too, especially y'know, Mount Everest and all. Open to some amazing general world design and neat music, I'd be 100% a-okay with it, there and Australia are places I really want to see
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Mar 9, 2017 03:15
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poke Australia would be, if anything, more horrifying than Alola, which is already lowkey terrifying. Nintendo simultaneously went brighter and cheerier and at the same time more genuinely unsettling with Sun/Moon. Bewear is kind of the perfect encapsulation of the Alola Experience in that regard. for poke-Australia, I'm just imagining a cassowary Pokemon with a Pokedex entry that's like "An effort was made by humans once to exterminate them, but there were casualties, and now humans do not enter their territory."
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Mar 9, 2017 04:16
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Spatula City posted:poke Australia would be, if anything, more horrifying than Alola, which is already lowkey terrifying. Nintendo simultaneously went brighter and cheerier and at the same time more genuinely unsettling with Sun/Moon. Bewear is kind of the perfect encapsulation of the Alola Experience in that regard. Moon Pokedex posted:This Pokémon has the habit of hugging its companions. Many Trainers have left this world after their spines were squashed by its hug. Jesus Christ. 
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Mar 9, 2017 04:48
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EclecticTastes posted:I get the impression that Steel's resistance to Ghost and Dark were removed specifically so the Honedge line wouldn't be completely overpowered. If its only weaknesses were Fire and Ground, Aegislash would be pretty devastating, I'd think. I think the actual reason is because Fairy existing gave Steel an offensive buff that they neutralized with a defensive nerf. (Poison didn't need any kind of nerf to counter its buff).
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Mar 9, 2017 06:12
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And yet they still refuse to give Ice more resistances!
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Mar 9, 2017 06:21
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Fairy only exists because Scrafty was too amazing to exist without a double weakness.
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Mar 9, 2017 07:02
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Spatula City posted:for poke-Australia, I'm just imagining a cassowary Pokemon with a Pokedex entry that's like "An effort was made by humans once to exterminate them, but there were casualties, and now humans do not enter their territory."
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Mar 9, 2017 07:06
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Begemot posted:It's hard to blame it for that, considering it came out a few weeks before SM. No, it's really easy to blame them for that because Pokemon fangames using essentials like Uranium does have been using HM item replacements for years.
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Mar 9, 2017 08:16
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Hell, there are dummied out HM replacement items in gen 1 games.
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Not to engage in hyperbole, but the creation and use of Garlikid in this game should have triggered a community service sentence if not outright jail time.
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Unknown Quantity posted:
This is cute. Not amazing, but cute.  Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
This is... not. 
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YggiDee posted:Fairy only exists because Scrafty was too amazing to exist without a double weakness. Also Hydreigon and Kingdra. Also also, Garchomp was fast enough that the only thing that scared it was either another Garchomp or a Weavile. After Gen 6, though, a bulky flying/fairy type (hi, Togekiss!) no-sells at least 75% of a Garchomp's potential moveset, leaving it only with the inaccurate Stone Edge to fall back on. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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EclecticTastes posted:I get the impression that Steel's resistance to Ghost and Dark were removed specifically so the Honedge line wouldn't be completely overpowered. If its only weaknesses were Fire and Ground, Aegislash would be pretty devastating, I'd think. I have an irrational boner for Steel types. Metagross was the previous 2nd favorite now knocked down to 3rd. Also love you giant metal-hell-spider
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Spatula City posted:poke Australia would be, if anything, more horrifying than Alola, which is already lowkey terrifying. Nintendo simultaneously went brighter and cheerier and at the same time more genuinely unsettling with Sun/Moon. Bewear is kind of the perfect encapsulation of the Alola Experience in that regard.  they could have at least expended poke'rest of the planet before they moved into Sun/Moons extradimensional pokemon poo poo.Doduo post. My bad.
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I also get the feeling that introducing alternate universes to the franchise opens up a can of worms. As for what new places they can base their next games on, the last two were basically top vacation spots for Japanese tourists so its highly likely that the next place will also be similar.
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U.T. Raptor posted:Kind of like a Poke Emu War, then. Tbh, real world Australia is already full of dangerous and extreme critters so it wouldn't be very hard to Pokemon that up. Issues of racism and native peoples could be dicey but Nintendo could just ignore it, too. :eyeroll:
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i wonder if they'll make a pokemon game in one of the like three parts of Japan they haven't gotten around to yet...
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I feel like britain+ireland is inevitable, but since it almost certainly means a corgi pokemon, it's a fine choice
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HardDiskD posted:Jesus Christ. Bewear was my loving #1 team member, spine still uncracked, no regrets Gyra_Solune posted:i wonder if they'll make a pokemon game in one of the like three parts of Japan they haven't gotten around to yet... Which non-remake Pokemon was the last one actually set in Poke-Japan, anyway? GeneX posted:I feel like britain+ireland is inevitable, but since it almost certainly means a corgi pokemon, it's a fine choice Royal Guard gym leader, gym leader wearing kilt, alcoholic punk-rock gym leader, foppish aristocrat gym leader, newsboy-cap-clad-pensioner gym leader Pint of Guinness pokemon which evolves into a growler and then a keg loquacius fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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loquacius posted:Which non-remake Pokemon was the last one actually set in Poke-Japan, anyway? Mainline? Sinnoh.
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Gridlocked posted:
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Gridlocked posted:
The weird part is, they didn't even do much with that theme. Only one of those Pokemon were remotely relevant in Sun and Moon.
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loquacius posted:Pint of Guinness pokemon which evolves into a growler and then a keg Nah, it's a regional variation. Keggexecutor
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loquacius posted:Bewear was my loving #1 team member, spine still uncracked, no regrets The Champion is blatantly just William Wallace
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loquacius posted:Pint of Guinness pokemon which evolves into a growler and then a keg Dark/Flying.
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loquacius posted:Royal Guard gym leader, gym leader wearing kilt, alcoholic punk-rock gym leader, foppish aristocrat gym leader, newsboy-cap-clad-pensioner gym leader Bug-type that's an obvious homage to the Beatles...unless there already is one
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Leeds has the Normal-Type gym.
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SirPhoebos posted:Bug-type that's an obvious homage to the Beatles...unless there already is one Bug-type Gym Leader is an obvious John Lennon homage located in Poke-Liverpool
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Poke-Britain could be neat I guess. Should Ireland be Tutotial Island like it is in Crusader Kings or should it just kick off in London and get to the point
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