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Spring Break My Heart posted:It's a pretty even 3 man race that will be won down the stretch. Do they factor in the goalie's impact on what the team did versus what they were expected to do or is it just "best goaltender in the league"? If they do, does Holtby get points knocked off because "He's on the Caps" whereas Bob gets extra credit because "your team was supposed to be flaming poo and instead might get home ice in the first round"? The only time I've ever paid attention to the vote was when Bob won in 2013 and he won in spite of the CBJ missing the playoffs on a tiebreaker.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Do they factor in the goalie's impact on what the team did versus what they were expected to do or is it just "best goaltender in the league"? If they do, does Holtby get points knocked off because "He's on the Caps" whereas Bob gets extra credit because "your team was supposed to be flaming poo and instead might get home ice in the first round"? I think Vezina's mostly just been straight up best goalie.
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Even if the award was most valuable goalie to his team, it would be voted as best overall. Holtby should actually be out of the running since they seem to only care about SV% unless it's mitigated by some huge lead in another category. He'll probably get 3rd place. Darling's a backup so he won't get any consideration.
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Mar 9, 2017 16:38
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holtby won the vezina last season despite being on the caps and not having the best sv% because He Just Wins
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Mar 9, 2017 17:19
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Yeah he didn't deserve it last year at all, but he had 8 more wins which was an entire 20% over the next guy and tied a record. This year, Dubnyk is solidly ahead in SV%, just behind him in GAA, and about even in wins. 3 more shutouts shouldn't be big enough to push Holtby ahead. The top SV% and a solid near top showing in every other category on the stats page should be a sure bet. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 17:22
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Also Holtby won last year and the voters like when hockey players take turns.
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Soft Shell Crab posted:they fat Pretty rich coming from a goon 
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As a pretty, rich goon I am offended by this implication.
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The Canucks did an exchange program thing with a star Irish Hurler named Lee Chin and his comments about the team were uh... interesting.quote:“The drinking culture they have, I couldn’t believe it. They were lowering pints the day before a game. And that was sitting at lunch. http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/lee-chin-surprised-by-levels-of-drinking-and-fighting-in-nhl-1.3003990 So I guess it's not just Canucks management that acts like it's still the 70s.
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Mar 9, 2017 17:49
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jared mccann was actually a good boy and a hard worker until the canucks taught him how good sex, drugs, and alcohol are
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Aye Doc posted:jared mccann was actually a good boy and a hard worker until the canucks taught him how good sex, drugs, and alcohol are Most likely his "attitude issues" were him turning down doing a beer bong during the intermission.
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having a beer at lunch doesn't really seem that weird to me
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks did an exchange program thing with a star Irish Hurler named Lee Chin and his comments about the team were uh... interesting.  this loving team
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Quite honestly I'm more surprised that an amateur hurler takes performance so seriously. ....I almost always have beer in the locker room before I skate though so that's where I'm coming from
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Jamwad Hilder posted:having a beer at lunch doesn't really seem that weird to me Professional athletes are multi-million dollar investments and well oiled machines. There's a huge body of evidence that even moderate alcohol consumption will negatively affect performance and slow recovery. I don't think that teams should be infringing on a player's ability to make responsible choices and a single beer at lunch will have a negligible effect. Then again, a top down endorsement of drinking culture is horrendous. Lee Chin plays a considerably less popular sport and he admits he'd be terrified to drink openly mid-season. Furthermore, management telling a slumping player to go get blackout wasted mid-season? What the hell?
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To the surprise of no one but Tom Sestito, Tom Sestito has a hearing for his hit on Enstrom. Seriously, kick this useless poo poo out of hockey for good.
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ThinkTank posted:Furthermore, management telling a slumping player to go get blackout wasted mid-season? What the hell? For real, if this is what they're actually doing they're god damned idiots
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks did an exchange program thing with a star Irish Hurler named Lee Chin and his comments about the team were uh... interesting. Oh so that's how you tank
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hifi posted:Oh so that's how you tank And get the players on board with it. Seriously though 
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grack posted:To the surprise of no one but Tom Sestito, Tom Sestito has a hearing for his hit on Enstrom. Seriously, kick this useless poo poo out of hockey for good. This Penguins/Jets grudge match is the stupidest thing ever, and the Penguins only served to perpetuate it by calling him up yesterday. Dumb dumb dumb move on their part.
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks did an exchange program thing with a star Irish Hurler named Lee Chin and his comments about the team were uh... interesting. Slump busters have long been a thing. Also yeah the biggest surprise here is that an amateur hurler takes performance so seriously.
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malkin had to fight wheeler anyway despite sestito being there, then sestito had a literally 100% pointless fight with thorburn off of a faceoff, and even if hypothetically these two events "defused tensions" or "blew off steam" or whatever "the code" says these things do, we'll never know because like 10 minutes later sestito's garbage hit got everybody pissed at each other again anyway with two and a half periods of hockey left to play. oh yeah and he literally broke enstrom's face as far as i know. the worst part is going to be when sestito gets like two games because enstrom looked sestito in the face before turning his back to him and getting destroyed.
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Ginette Reno posted:Sid has slowed down a lot lately (because loving Sullivan sticks Kunitz to his hip) but Malkin has gone into god mode to make up for it. First world problems yo. I'm pretty sure Pens fans still really have no idea how lucky they are to have Crosby and Malkin and Letang all on teh same team. I mean, the gods have decided to make things fair and usually prevent them all from being healthy at the same time, but holy lol that they basically have two generational talent centers and that's after having two other of the best players to ever play the game loving pittsburgh DJExile posted:I think Vezina's mostly just been straight up best goalie. Except when Holtby won it last year for most wins instead of best goalie And possibly a few that Brodeur won for the same reason
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https://twitter.com/treed1919/status/839893968280236032 Drinking from a bottle of whiskey that has Torts face on it should give you like instant Hulk rage or something cool
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Also those fingers in it probably ruin the taste.
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I'm actually pretty sure I read somewhere that Torts doesn't drink e: and cool now Lundqvist and Nash are injured
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How much booze do you have to drink for a loving rugby player who lives in Ireland to go "That's a bit excessive, guys"?
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quote:The Wexford hurler spent a week training with the Vancouver Canucks last month, one of the top teams in the professional NHL, as part of AIB-supported Toughest Trade series. o.0
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.Spec posted:o.0 top 30 at least
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.Spec posted:o.0 Yeah, that's from a European league perspective where you have several tiered divisions. You'd say 'top' to mean 'highest level' not 'one of the best.'
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Levitate posted:I'm pretty sure Pens fans still really have no idea how lucky they are to have Crosby and Malkin and Letang all on teh same team. I mean, the gods have decided to make things fair and usually prevent them all from being healthy at the same time, but holy lol that they basically have two generational talent centers and that's after having two other of the best players to ever play the game I followed them in the dark years so I do have some idea of how lucky I am. But I also followed them when they Mario/Jags who were even better than Crosby/Malkin so uhhh. Yeah, pretty lucky overall as a fan.
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shyduck posted:Flyers are starting Neuvirth tonight Fire Hakstol
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I mean there is this: https://twitter.com/Del_Gaone/status/839898314569105408 ...but I've always been more "what have you done for me lately" when it comes to goaltending. We don't want to run Mase into the ground either, but they're coming off a day's rest and this is a very pivotal game tonight, so... who knows.
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Historical W/L records are always hilarious, but especially so in this case where the Leafs don't even resemble the same team they were a year ago.
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shyduck posted:I mean there is this: Always play the % when you have a large sample size like 15 games. quote:You! Strawberry! Good effort today. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Levitate posted:I'm actually pretty sure I read somewhere that Torts doesn't drink Zipay posted:Halverson hadn’t arrived in time for the morning skate, so assistant coach Darryl Williams borrowed some of Lundqvist’s equipment to man one crease while the Swede watched with a smile from behind the glass. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/henrik-lundqvist-rick-nash-out-for-rangers-vs-hurricanes-1.13233717 Maybe this was the spark we needed.
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I'm going to make Teamu Pokemon mad and say that I think Smith has been real good (at least for the last two games I watched) and he instantly became one of the best defenders on the Rangers because he actually loving has a clue about gap control and how to pressure people in the neutral zone and how to loving stay in position goddammit I'm looking at you Marc Staal
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Levitate posted:I'm going to make Teamu Pokemon mad and say that I think Smith has been real good (at least for the last two games I watched) and he instantly became one of the best defenders on the Rangers because he actually loving has a clue about gap control and how to pressure people in the neutral zone and how to loving stay in position goddammit I'm looking at you Marc Staal You got the wrong av
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Levitate posted:I'm going to make Teamu Pokemon mad and say that I think Smith has been real good (at least for the last two games I watched) and he instantly became one of the best defenders on the Rangers because he actually loving has a clue about gap control and how to pressure people in the neutral zone and how to loving stay in position goddammit I'm looking at you Marc Staal New York's D is a loving garbage fire so Brendan Smith being an improvement isn't much of a surprise.
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