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Giving her staff a toggle with E and allowing her to shoot her (buffed) pistol while dual wielding her staff for buffs and heals would be extremely good and fun. Edit: make the switching staff modes animation turn the staff to the other end for an extra cool factor.
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if you gave her the option to rez herself when dead -or- rez everyone else like normal (one time use for either) would that be too strong or just a bad idea
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Mar 9, 2017 18:43
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You'd literally never rez yourself with mercy at her current shape. What's the point of losing your ult for you lovely self? Oh goodie you can stick up your Pharrah's rear end again but you lost all of your ult charge.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:56
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Is Mercy really in such a bad spot? I'm seeing her plenty right now. She's super common to see as one character gimmick smurfs as well.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:02
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Jeza posted:Is Mercy really in such a bad spot? I'm seeing her plenty right now. She's super common to see as one character gimmick smurfs as well. She's not a bad hero, she's just not terribly exciting to play and the other healers are all a little better in different ways (except Ana who is a lot better in most ways)
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Mar 9, 2017 19:04
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I honestly think k she's one of the worst heroes right now, and the only reason she's playable is because healing is so important and strong but I'd honestly rather have a symmetra as my "support" than mercy.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:14
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Jeza posted:Is Mercy really in such a bad spot? I'm seeing her plenty right now. She's super common to see as one character gimmick smurfs as well. the main reason you see a lot of her is she's just so mind-numbingly easy to play while still providing a decent benefit to your team, as well as a lending a certain amount of validity to blaming the rest of your team for losing instead of yourself
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Mar 9, 2017 19:18
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New Bastion dragged Mercy back into the meta because he's the first hero worth pocketing to the extent of giving up speed boost/discord orb/Ana, and pocketing someone else is where Mercy's value is at ever since Ana's release and the general increase in healing
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Mar 9, 2017 19:20
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The thing with Mercy is that her positive features are also the most boring things ever. I agree 100% about letting her shoot and heal at the same time.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:33
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Letting Mercy shoot and heal at the same time would be fun. I like playing Mercy even as is because Mercy is a really chill hero to play.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:40
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Maybe let her use both beams at once? They both break if los breaks anyway, so as long as you can glance at a person then glance at a second person you're good.quote:Letting Mercy shoot and heal at the same time would be fun. I like playing Mercy even as is because Mercy is a really chill hero to play. Or this, and same. Mercy's my favorite to play as, followed by Lucio. Just fly/wallride everywhere! Though I still like my old idea of removing her gun and just banning anyone who shoots Mercy for committing a war crime.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:43
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On the subject of the devs making changes, on the last Overview podcast it was mentioned that there is a pro-player discord, that has most of the top Western pros in it as well as a couple of the lead developers. Apparently Slasher(Rod Breslau) found out that the devs reached out to the pros on the discord for their thoughts on the last PTR patch, but only got answers from 2 players. He's been bugging every pro to give their two cents to the devs on this patch, which might be the reason for the quick reversal of a couple of the changes. The zenyatta discord change especially didn't seem to be well liked by most of them.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:56
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Mercy is my main and I have a lot of fun playing as her. I'm really not very good at FPS games and aiming on the PS4 is hard, so this way I still feel like I contribute and have a good time. I'm in the poo poo-tier ranks where she's still useful and it's nice to hear my teammates thanking me each time I heal or resurrect. The other supports can definitely do a lot more but I'll be hosed if I can aim effectively as Ana or Lucio.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:01
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Mercy being weak is super good because she's literally the most unfun hero in the game.
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Mymla posted:Mercy being weak is super good because she's literally the most unfun hero in the game. well i can't fault that logic
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Mercy firing while healing would probably be OP with her DPS/HPS as it is right now. Her DPS is actually the same as Ana, and while her projectiles aren't hitscan they can fire through teammates and also headshot for x2 damage. So a healer that can do 100% of Ana's DPS and 64% of ana's healing simultaneously? Zen can do both but has massively less HPS to make up for it, his HPS is less than a third of Ana's. Lucio's is even lower (Even with his burst healing it's not even half of Ana's) The fact that she can't DPS while healing is why they gave her the damage boost beam, she can switch back and forth instantly and can build Ult off of it. If they gave her the ability to fire and heal at the same time, they'd probably need to remove the damage boost beam as well as reducing her simultaneous DPS/HPS to compensate. Maybe have something like "When mercy offhands her pistol she fires slower and gains spread, and her healing is reduced for 3 seconds after each shot". khy fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 20:09
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Yo Mercy pocketing an Offensive Ana with Symmetra and Torb armor is the biggest loving bullshit in this game. Holy poo poo she's invincible.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:12
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RBA Starblade posted:Maybe let her use both beams at once? They both break if los breaks anyway, so as long as you can glance at a person then glance at a second person you're good.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:18
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Meh. Nevermind.
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Jeza posted:Is Mercy really in such a bad spot? I'm seeing her plenty right now. She's super common to see as one character gimmick smurfs as well. The problem with Mercy is that aside from her ult, she can't fight and support at the same time, which means she mainly has to stand around being a non-combatant and provide enough value to her team to justify them basically being down a player at all times. However, all her non-ult skills only affect one person at a time, and Blizzard seems reluctant to turn up the effectiveness of those skills for fear that she might be able to turn someone into an unstoppable supersoldier by pocketing them. Since they're not yet willing to change either of those aspects of her character, they're stuck just slightly tweaking her ult and Guardian Angel, even though the ult was the only reason to ever use her in the first place. She's not unusably bad, and a lot of people like her since her playstyle is simple and familiar (she's pretty much a knockoff of TF2's Medic) and her low skill ceiling and lack of combat ability means she's low-pressure to play. But in terms of effectiveness, she's overshadowed by the other healers - Ana is a better healer than she is, Zen's damage-boosting ability is far better than hers, Lucio brings a unique ability to the table and can buff his whole team at once, and all three of them can also participate in the fight while using their support skills. Other than Resurrection, there isn't really anything Mercy can do that someone else can't do better.
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Jeza posted:Is Mercy really in such a bad spot? I'm seeing her plenty right now. She's super common to see as one character gimmick smurfs as well. mercy's more popular the further down you go, but she is played a fair amount at every level. where you don't see a lot of mercy is in pro games, where it's a binary check: are they running pharah? ok, there's probably a mercy. are they not running pharah? then there's no mercy
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Get rid of Mercy's pistol and make her heal beam do damage to enemies
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Scotlander posted:On the subject of the devs making changes, on the last Overview podcast it was mentioned that there is a pro-player discord, that has most of the top Western pros in it as well as a couple of the lead developers. Apparently Slasher(Rod Breslau) found out that the devs reached out to the pros on the discord for their thoughts on the last PTR patch, but only got answers from 2 players. He's been bugging every pro to give their two cents to the devs on this patch, which might be the reason for the quick reversal of a couple of the changes. The zenyatta discord change especially didn't seem to be well liked by most of them. I hate pro players now.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:37
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I just carried really hard i want everyone to know that.
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If you could custom design a character for Overwatch, what would it be and what abilities would it have
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What gets shut off if Mercy gets hacked? Can she still swap to her pistol?
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bagrada posted:What gets shut off if Mercy gets hacked? Can she still swap to her pistol? She can't dash or resurrect people. It's actually incredibly useful to hack her in a team fight because it makes her about a million times easier to kill
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bagrada posted:What gets shut off if Mercy gets hacked? Can she still swap to her pistol? Guardian angel is disabled, her Ult is disabled. Healing beam, Damage boost, and pistol are all still usable no problems after being hacked. But since GA is her primary source of survivability it really does screw her over if she gets hacked.
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khy posted:If you could custom design a character for Overwatch, what would it be and what abilities would it have - A cybernetic sabre, that temporarily leeches a small amount of ult charge on hit. - An energy discharge, that purges him of any CC effects, damages enemies close to it, and itself for half the amount. - A forward leap, that damages enemies on contact, and leashes them to it for a short period of time. And ultimate: - A short duration cloak, that renders it invisible and allows it to attack and use abilities without leaving invisibility. Gives extra speed and health regeneration when out of sight of enemy team.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Cyborg-robot piloted by a dolphin. It would be an offense hero, a squishy melee flanker/assassin type. As for the abilities: I shall name him, Slork
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Bumper Stickup posted:I hate pro players now. There was a lot of concern with folks about how the Discord change would make dive comp too powerful. I agree. Making Zen's orbs have no spread is super good anyway. The ana revert is dumb though
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Mar 9, 2017 22:03
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what does 'dive comp' mean?
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Poque posted:what does 'dive comp' mean? Tag someone with Discord, sprint past the Reinhardt to assassinate that person, get out, your team pushes forward with player advantage.
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yeah pros telling the devs not to buff zenyatta sounds like a blessing moreso than a curse. I loving hate playing the game when anyone can pick up tracer or genji and dominate.
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Poque posted:what does 'dive comp' mean? it's basically a team of high mobility flankers that jump straight into the other team and pick them apart the classic dive comp is lucio/zen/winston/zarya/geni/tracer. lucio for speed/area heals, zen for the orbs (harmony is great for helping flankers win 1v1s and discord lets them shred key targets easily), winston for jumping the high ground, zarya for enabling winston to not die and providing graviton surge, the other two because they have a ton of mobility and can do a ton of damage
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Give Mercy 0.5 seconds of invulnerability frames every time she uses Guardian Angel.
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she can use guardian angel every other second, so no
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khy posted:If you could custom design a character for Overwatch, what would it be and what abilities would it have A dude in a hover chair that summons/builds robots. -Main weapon would be dual machine guns mounted on the chair. Total ammo of 40 with moderate spread and ok damage. -A small spider bot you could build onto any surface. It latches onto the first enemy to get near it and messes with their vision for about 4 or so seconds. (think like static/distorted view) -Medium sized dog bot that is just a general dps thing. Little less damage than torbs turret but is able to move around and attack things around the map. -Barrier to protect himself. Dunno about an ult but that's all I got. Maybe right click would let him control the bots manually.
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More temporary map altering abilities, like maybe someone could make a portal to the otherside of a wall
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khy posted:If you could custom design a character for Overwatch, what would it be and what abilities would it have I said it before, but I want a time traveling velociraptor that lorewise is related to both Tracer (with the time travel) and Winston (intelligent animal, though he wouldn't talk). He'd be offense, a flanker, he wouldn't use guns. He'd be melee. He'd have a raptor leap as one of his abilities, if you land it on someone you stun them and can chomp down on them. I imagine him like mccree or reaper or Roadhog in some circumstances where being caught 1 on 1 with them is basically a death sentence, but surrounded he'd be incredibly weak. He'd be good for like going after Mercy and stuff like that. His other ability might be a really really fast dash similar to S76's but I dunno how you'd make that different so it doesn't just feel like you're reusing an ability. His regular attack would be like a chomp or something idk. I have no idea how you'd make this character first person if his attacks are with his head. His ult would be opening up a time portal and a T-Rex would come out and you'd leap on the t-rex and you'd control that for a short period of time or until the t-rex is killed. He'd be like Winston's ult or anyone Ana powers up where he'd be a really powerful beast. But he'd still be susceptible to things like Junkrat's trap, Symm's turrets, Mei freezing him, etc. Maybe some gimmick where like if the enemy stands still you won't be able to see them. Which keeps them safe from you but wouldn't keep them safe from your team. That'd be probably be too strong idk. I just thought all this up right now, I just want a raptor
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