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Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


the ufc just isn't the same without fighters like condom depot and safeauto (can't remember their real names)

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Intel&Sebastian posted:

The other go-to hilarious diet plan item was when BJ mentioned that he had to go on a diet and eat things like chicken salad, a dish that is like...half mayonnaise (h/t fatherdog I think)

remember when brock lesnar was constantly talking about turning chicken poo poo into chicken salad on tuf

edit: damnit, thats what i get for walking away before posting

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Rigel posted:

The UFC didn't ask the fighters what they were making on sponsorships. Given that, there's no reason for the UFC to know what they were getting, because the fighters and/or their agents negotiated their own sponsorship deals pre-Reebok. Its really not in doubt now that the UFC's exclusive deal was far below what they could have gotten, given what we know now on what fighters were able to get.

The only argument against this is, "The UFC is big and successful, they couldn't possibly be this stupid, right?!" No, the UFC really was that stupid, they let themselves get lowballed by Reebok. They thought the fighters weren't getting much, and didn't bother to check first because they were focused on cleaning up the uniform.

You have no idea what you're talking about

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I'm sure they only negotiated with reebok and did no due diligence to see what their market was like, then turned it around and sold it for 4 billion in the same manner

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
Or they didn't care about the Reebok deal as long as it led to the sale. Zuffa seemed intent on getting uniforms. Like, in the short term, if you're trying to cash out for 4 billion dollars why worry about 70 million?

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Skip My Posts posted:

I'm sure they only negotiated with reebok and did no due diligence to see what their market was like, then turned it around and sold it for 4 billion in the same manner

No one here knows anything about what was actually going on but do you think it's like, impossible for a successful corporation to gently caress up and make a bad decision? Pollyanna Capitalism is a new one for me

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
They did care about it and made extra revenue which added to the 4 billion valuation

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Tezcatlipoca posted:

Or they didn't care about the Reebok deal as long as it led to the sale. Zuffa seemed intent on getting uniforms. Like, in the short term, if you're trying to cash out for 4 billion dollars why worry about 70 million?

This is my intuition too, but really no one is going to know what truly happened until someone writes a tell-all in a few years.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
There's huge variables that make what each fighter was receiving from sponsorships not indicative of what the company will receive in a deal, like Keven said in a much funnier way.

Skip My Posts fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Mar 9, 2017

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

DeimosRising posted:

No one here knows anything about what was actually going on but do you think it's like, impossible for a successful corporation to gently caress up and make a bad decision? Pollyanna Capitalism is a new one for me

Not at all. Big successful companies gently caress stuff up all the time

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

Intel&Sebastian posted:

The other go-to hilarious diet plan item was when BJ mentioned that he had to go on a diet and eat things like chicken salad, a dish that is like...half mayonnaise (h/t fatherdog I think)

with a normal person talking about his new diet I would assume he misspoke and actually meant to describe a green salad with grilled chicken. but since it was BJ Penn I assume chicken salad really was an upgrade from whatever he was eating before

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga

Rigel posted:

The UFC didn't ask the fighters what they were making on sponsorships. Given that, there's no reason for the UFC to know what they were getting, because the fighters and/or their agents negotiated their own sponsorship deals pre-Reebok. Its really not in doubt now that the UFC's exclusive deal was far below what they could have gotten, given what we know now on what fighters were able to get.

The only argument against this is, "The UFC is big and successful, they couldn't possibly be this stupid, right?!" No, the UFC really was that stupid, they let themselves get lowballed by Reebok. They thought the fighters weren't getting much, and didn't bother to check first because they were focused on cleaning up the uniform.

Or they made a deal that was helpful for the UFC itself and not the fighters and didn't care about the fighters getting screwed over by it and claiming they had no idea at all what the value of the sponsorship they were giving away was worth is a convenient cover for them not really caring too much about how it impacted the fighters.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Now that I think about it he might have actually said Macaroni Salad

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

To any other athlete, I would assume they are making chicken salad without high octane mayo.

But Hendricks is full blown dumber than hell so, yeah.

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

We used to laugh at Mike Dulce for being a scam-artist but apparently fighters really need to hire someone to live in their extra room and make greens and grilled chicken for them

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Work Friend Keven posted:

Well if you make it from mayonnaise sure. But more typically one makes chicken salad from chicken poo poo.

lol

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
Yair vs Frankie is a cool fight. Its like Oliviera vs Frankie except Yair is better and theres a pretty good chance he will actually win

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Intel&Sebastian posted:

The other go-to hilarious diet plan item was when BJ mentioned that he had to go on a diet and eat things like chicken salad, a dish that is like...half mayonnaise (h/t fatherdog I think)

I love the time BJ says his weight is too low, so he gets a teriyaki burger in addition to his egg and rice breakfast or whatever he normally ordered.

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene

LobsterMobster posted:

I love the time BJ says his weight is too low, so he gets a teriyaki burger in addition to his egg and rice breakfast or whatever he normally ordered.

I like the time where Khabib says life is short so he's going to eat the tiramisu first

jay z's sedan
Nov 22, 2005

milk truck just arrive
they already had a perfect example for a uniform and they blew it

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
life is short why spend it fighting with people all the time? - Khabib

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010

Matoi Ryuko posted:

anthony "rumble" johnson will have an 8 foot height advantage and a 7,000 pound weight advantage going into this fight

everything else is virtually....identical*

*prepares for another round of racism discussion

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

chaleski posted:

We used to laugh at Mike Dulce for being a scam-artist but apparently fighters really need to hire someone to live in their extra room and make greens and grilled chicken for them

remember how he was part of Hendricks's camps for a while until they had a falling out? At the time I think everybody assumed it had to do with money and both of them being idiots, but in retrospect I choose to believe it was a hatred that grew in Johny's heart every time Dolce slapped a hamburger out of his hands.

Skip My Posts posted:

life is short why spend it fighting with people all the time? - Khabib

I think Khabib could actually just retire whenever and the Russian government or maybe Ramzan Kadyrov would pay him a bunch of money for just existing and maybe doing a little coaching and PR poo poo, even without ever winning a belt.

Schenck v. U.S. fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Mar 10, 2017

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

Should all of us that know how to cook go move in with fighters?

Also, has any champ flamed out as bad as Hendricks over an extended number of fights?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Schenck v. U.S. posted:

I think Khabib could actually just retire whenever and the Russian government or maybe Ramzan Kadyrov would pay him a bunch of money for just existing and maybe doing a little coaching and PR poo poo, even without ever winning a belt.

I've been assuming they want Khabib to win a belt so they can build around him to push into Russia.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD

Captain Log posted:

Should all of us that know how to cook go move in with fighters?

Also, has any champ flamed out as bad as Hendricks over an extended number of fights?

I mean like chuck got knocked out by keith jardine, a retired rich franklin, loud sounds, a dog that was happy to see him and jumped up,

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


Captain Log posted:

Should all of us that know how to cook go move in with fighters?

Also, has any champ flamed out as bad as Hendricks over an extended number of fights?

Anderson Silva. Thx

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

Memento posted:

I've been assuming they want Khabib to win a belt so they can build around him to push into Russia.

"They" being the UFC? The importance of sport to the government and the insane levels of public corruption make that a difficult prospect. The guys running MMA in Russia now are all really plugged in to the ruling class so I don't know how you could convince them to make room for an American company to come in, even if they have a bunch of Russian stars. Maybe we'll see it happen and then a couple weeks later Vadim Finckelstein and Vladimir Putin's daughter will quietly acquire significant stakes in the UFC, and A-list WME/IMG clients will start showing up at state dinners in Grozny.

afatwhiteloaf
Oct 19, 2012

handsome only face posted:

Anderson Silva. Thx

Work Friend Keven posted:

I mean like chuck got knocked out by keith jardine, a retired rich franklin, loud sounds, a dog that was happy to see him and jumped up,

Yeah but with Anderson and Chuck there was years of dominance before the bad runs, Hendricks lost the title on his first defense and then almost immediately fell off.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Chuck didn't get knocked out by jardine

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


afatwhiteloaf posted:

Yeah but with Anderson and Chuck there was years of dominance before the bad runs, Hendricks lost the title on his first defense and then almost immediately fell off.

Frankie Edgar and Anthony Pettis then

Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
Doesn't Khabob hate russia and has in fact been fighting them in a war for some time

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Memento posted:

I've been assuming they want Khabib to win a belt so they can build around him to push into Russia.

I'm dying for a proper Russian push because of all the 40/50 year old Russian bear men we'll get to see beat the poo poo out of each other at HW

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD

david carmichael posted:

Chuck didn't get knocked out by jardine

He actually didnt get knocked out by any of the 4 things I listed.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

david carmichael posted:

Chuck didn't get knocked out by jardine

He sure tried. It was very confusing.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Novum posted:

Doesn't Khabob hate russia and has in fact been fighting them in a war for some time

I think Chechens and Dagestanis are fairly tight though.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Carlos Newton comes to mind, Captain Log.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Bluedeanie posted:

Carlos Newton comes to mind, Captain Log.

Mark Kerr.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
https://cdn-w1.streamable.com/video/mp4/jlnc.mp4?token=1490296992_ce58e7f27fb1b93710fc98c7fb059890c4b11fbd

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Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Hahaha 'washed up lunatic'

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