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Fiction posted:I like how the Freedom Caucus won't pass it unless the Republicans do this, effectively meaning either there's no repeal or the whole party commits seppuku during the 2018 elections. trump's been arguing that not passing it would be political suicide because it goes against most popular president ever donald trump
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You can't pass complete clean repeal with reconciliation because it wouldn't be deficit neutral between restoring the borrowed Medicare funding and removing all the taxes.
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Schnorkles posted:Ryan's problem is the suicide caucus. They will not govern and will happily blow up anything, and there's no reason for the democrats to give them any help. This rules and it is a thing that makes me happy. They are so hosed. Well we are hosed too but whatevs 
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Watching 80s movies today can be so hosed up. Half of them involve just gunning down people living in cities to stop crime and drugs. It's a really bizarre fantasy version of the world. at least robocop understood this and was straight satire
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It's almost like they are trying to do something that's impossible and having a lot of problems coming up with a way to do the impossible. Strange. :hmm:
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Fiction posted:Is the CBO report if it ever comes out gonna mention how bad this bill would tank our economy? I think it depends on how they request information from the CBO. I remember some bill, maybe Ryan's, from a few years ago where the request was just "assume this bill gives us massive job growth and is revenue neutral". The press fell for it, because of course they did, but anyone that read past the first few pages saw what actually happened
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zegermans posted:You can't pass complete clean repeal with reconciliation because it wouldn't be deficit neutral between restoring the borrowed Medicare funding and removing all the taxes. There's also tons of "incidentals" that can't be touched via reconciliation. (see: all of the private insurance regs, pre-existing conditions, non medicaid expansion "essential care".) They theoretically can do a rule change, but no one seems interested in doing that.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Watching 80s movies today can be so hosed up. Half of them involve just gunning down people living in cities to stop crime and drugs. It's a really bizarre fantasy version of the world. This is also the recent Dredd movie. People tell me it was actually clever satire, and I wasn't paying much attention so that might be true, but I'm really suspicious because what I saw when I was looking was an unironic right-wing fever dream.
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Shageletic posted:Is the Criminal Division under a military commander's authority (I don't know what I'm talking about, just thinking about that Gillibrand bill to put the prosecution of sex crimes outside the regular military heirarchy). They are. But their command authority line is 100% outside of that of tenant units on post or, IIRC, even the post commander outside of basic poo poo like post policies. Likewise, military prosecutors work with commanders, but technically don't work "for" those commanders. This allows them to pursue charges even if a brigade commander doesn't want to. I can see Gellibrand's point, but in the state I'm posted in there are some backward laws and attitudes and lack of funds that make the local DA office quick to back away from a sexual assault case that isn't a slam dunk. Off-post offenses by military members can be tried on post if civilian authorities don't want the case. If a service member is a victim to a civilian off post we're out of luck if the civilian agencies don't pursue charges.
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ayyyyy nice, gently caress this guy, but, nothing matters
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Serf posted:at least robocop understood this and was straight satire if someone asked me to name my favorite movie of all time, i would say robert cop 
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Serf posted:at least robocop understood this and was straight satire Yeah Robocop 1 was a good movie. I just remember one of the death wish movies was quite literally him just declaring war in the ghetto. Like with machine guns and his own little army
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it baffles me that "well, now if someone reports sexual assault we will investigate it" is seen as a cultural shift the cultural problems are rooted far more in social backlash against those who speak up and the way declaring who you want to gently caress is seen as just boys being boys rather than loving gross
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Feminasty Slut posted:Well ya see you got your coffee shitposts. Then you got your booze shitposts. Then over there you got your gently caress everything smoke weed everyday hail satan screaming into the abyss nihilism. 
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Crusader posted:if someone asked me to name my favorite movie of all time, i would say robert cop 
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Fiction posted:Is the CBO report if it ever comes out gonna mention how bad this bill would tank our economy? would it matter?
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Coolguye posted:would it matter? yes
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Hodgepodge posted:This is also the recent Dredd movie. People tell me it was actually clever satire, and I wasn't paying much attention so that might be true, but I'm really suspicious because what I saw when I was looking was an unironic right-wing fever dream. That was a good action movie but I don't remember the details so I can't say for sure. Dredd seems to really suffer from this problem where the difference between satire and outright fascism is razor thin. I'm not sure if it's possible to have clever satire of fascism at all. So many people look past all subtext and just see bad rear end dudes in armor and go whole hog for authoritarian bootlicking.
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mormonpartyboat posted:it baffles me that "well, now if someone reports sexual assault we will investigate it" is seen as a cultural shift Under UCMJ nowadays if I poked you in the mouth with an index finger and the right person saw or you reported it, it would get investigated as a sexual assault. Some people are slow to embrace that. I don't say this to minimize more severe instances but poo poo is fuckin' serious nowadays.
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Hodgepodge posted:This is also the recent Dredd movie. People tell me it was actually clever satire, and I wasn't paying much attention so that might be true, but I'm really suspicious because what I saw when I was looking was an unironic right-wing fever dream. dredd involved a woman doing things so it wasn't right-wing
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Hodgepodge posted:This is also the recent Dredd movie. People tell me it was actually clever satire, and I wasn't paying much attention so that might be true, but I'm really suspicious because what I saw when I was looking was an unironic right-wing fever dream. pretty sure thats the point of judge dredd yeah
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Yinlock posted:dredd involved a woman doing things so it wasn't right-wing Like dishes and laundry?
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Elephanthead posted:Like dishes and laundry? no she killed the poo poo out of a lot of dudes
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https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/840233543657771008 hmmmm
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Feminasty Slut posted:Well ya see you got your coffee shitposts. Then you got your booze shitposts. Then over there you got your gently caress everything smoke weed everyday hail satan screaming into the abyss nihilism. All three, every day, until I die (tomorrow).
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Put me in it
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Watching 80s movies today can be so hosed up. Half of them involve just gunning down people living in cities to stop crime and drugs. It's a really bizarre fantasy version of the world. Combine this with Mean World Syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome) and you can see how we've arrived at the modern white consensus that cities are death traps. I was in Chicago on the South Side last week and one of my coworkers unironically asked me if I saw anyone get shot.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/840233543657771008 The other proposed cemetery would have 284 lots for sale to the public. There, buyers could pay for a kind of eternal membership in Trump’s club — even if it isn’t clear Trump himself would ever join them.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/840233543657771008 Going to be a growth industry when this healthcare bill passes
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I love 80's/90's cheesy action flicks. They're the best, even the bad ones. I recently enjoyed predator 2 for the first time in years. The opening sequence is a gun fight between columbian drug lords whose faces are white with cocaine dust facing off against Danny Glover and his female hispanic partner with some lesser fat white cannon fodder cops. (The latina parter's gun has a lot of sweet rear end attachments) The two groups are constantly shooting at each other 20 yards apart behind their respective car barricades while Danny Glover has time to open his trunk and pick the perfect gun after considering a few that are "too small." Scenes like that just don't work anymore because everyone's been playing counterstrike for 20 years and knows how real gunfights happen. Then everyone gets loving owned by a space monster and Gary Busey shows up. It rules.
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Yinlock posted:yes i dont think it would friend Shalebridge Cradle posted:That was a good action movie but I don't remember the details so I can't say for sure. poe's law is a thing, so you can only talk to the originators of the source material for the real story - and the 2000AD writers, both past and present, will quickly say that Dredd is first and foremost supposed to be fun, not a role model. same basic thing with like Warhammer 40k. that universe is basically a far-right wet dream where you always have someone who's Wrong to shoot and you can place you unwavering faith in the biggest, strongest daddy that ever daddied ever, but if you bring up politics to any games workshop writer they will basically start laughing at you.
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Reminder that he visited him this week, and upon walking out the building and being asked what he just did, responded with "I forgot."
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Yinlock posted:dredd involved a woman doing things so it wasn't right-wing The part where the second she's left alone with the black dude they haul around in chains for the entire movie, he attempts to use her mind powers to rape her was.... interesting. Like can anyone explain where the actual satire was?
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Feminasty Slut posted:Well ya see you got your coffee shitposts. Then you got your booze shitposts. Then over there you got your https://twitter.com/Papapishu/status/746803108949409793
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Serf posted:at least robocop understood this and was straight satire Robocop was one of the finest movies ever made. The new Dredd owns but I didn't really take away a message that Dredd etc were especially the 'good guys'
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