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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I've never seen RUnning Man, how does it scale from Conan the Destroyer to Commando

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oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Serf posted:

at least robocop understood this and was straight satire

See also: Verhoeven's other masterpiece, Starship Troopers.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

mlmp08 posted:

Under UCMJ nowadays if I poked you in the mouth with an index finger and the right person saw or you reported it, it would get investigated as a sexual assault. Some people are slow to embrace that.

I don't say this to minimize more severe instances but poo poo is fuckin' serious nowadays.

mormonpartyboat posted:

it baffles me that "well, now if someone reports sexual assault we will investigate it" is seen as a cultural shift

the cultural problems are rooted far more in social backlash against those who speak up and the way declaring who you want to gently caress is seen as just boys being boys rather than loving gross

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Yinlock posted:

The other proposed cemetery would have 284 lots for sale to the public. There, buyers could pay for a kind of eternal membership in Trump’s club — even if it isn’t clear Trump himself would ever join them.

Jesus fuckin christ, theyre gonna start building temples in his honor next

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Coolguye posted:

i dont think it would friend

the gop are real desperate to avoid it so they can have millions of people die, so i'm pretty sure it matters a whole bunch

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

mlmp08 posted:

Under UCMJ nowadays if I poked you in the mouth with an index finger and the right person saw or you reported it, it would get investigated as a sexual assault. Some people are slow to embrace that.

I don't say this to minimize more severe instances but poo poo is fuckin' serious nowadays.

Yes, that's why there was a 30,000 member Facebook group of current and former marines trading revenge porn for years.

Because poo poo is fuckin' serious nowadays.

Lmao!

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


That Works posted:

Robocop was one of the finest movies ever made.


The new Dredd owns but I didn't really take away a message that Dredd etc were especially the 'good guys'

it's satire in that if you don't think authoritarianism is good you so t find the protagonists good but if you disagree with that premise you watch dredd shoot a guy in the face over a traffic violation and go "but this owns"

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Theres def gonna be a splinter evangelical org that sees trump as the for real reincarnation of christ soon, if there isnt already

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

fits my needs posted:

Yes, that's why there was a 30,000 member Facebook group of current and former marines trading revenge porn for years.

Because poo poo is fuckin' serious nowadays.

Lmao!

yeah having a good investigative system doesn't mean poo poo when there's a serious stigma against reporting anything

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Yinlock posted:

The other proposed cemetery would have 284 lots for sale to the public. There, buyers could pay for a kind of eternal membership in Trump’s club — even if it isn’t clear Trump himself would ever join them.

trump, eternal godking, will be buried in the concept of linear time

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

zegermans posted:

Reminder that he visited him this week, and upon walking out the building and being asked what he just did, responded with "I forgot."

that loving rules, I wish I was so corrupt to the point where I can say stupid poo poo like this all the time.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Citizen Tayne posted:

Combine this with Mean World Syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome) and you can see how we've arrived at the modern white consensus that cities are death traps. I was in Chicago on the South Side last week and one of my coworkers unironically asked me if I saw anyone get shot.

It's hosed up because thinking about it I can honestly say that kind of thing affects my thinking too. I know crime is at a low point but actually waking thru the city always had me on much higher alert. It's not even a bad area, what the hell.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

That Works posted:

The new Dredd owns but I didn't really take away a message that Dredd etc were especially the 'good guys'
one of the primary points to 2000AD going back to the first dozen comics is that there are no 'good guys', only varying degrees of bad.

i mean for gently caress's sake one of dredd's first lines in one of the first comics ever, a line that is repeated practically ad nauseum outside of the comics is "Justice has a price. That price is freedom."

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

oliwan posted:

See also: Verhoeven's other masterpiece, Starship Troopers.

Someone above mentioned how razor thin dredd was and how it was possible to see it as right wing fantasy instead of as satire. Starship troopers isn't even razor thin. It's practically camp. And still people miss the point.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

also trump has been trying to build cemeteries there for ten years

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



oh here's trump's schedule for today

10:00 AM Receive daily intelligence briefing – Oval Office
11:00 AM Deliver the President’s Weekly Address Live [Live Stream]
11:30 AM Lead health care discussion with key House Committee Chairmen – Roosevelt Room
12:15 PM Speak with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority by telephone – Oval Office
12:45 PM Lunch with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson – Presidential Dining Room
3:30 PM Meet with Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson – Oval Office

and spicey is on at 1:30

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

I think it depends on how they request information from the CBO. I remember some bill, maybe Ryan's, from a few years ago where the request was just "assume this bill gives us massive job growth and is revenue neutral".

The press fell for it, because of course they did, but anyone that read past the first few pages saw what actually happened

So this was passed in January

quote:

“The Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall, to the extent practicable, prepare an estimate of whether a bill or joint resolution reported by a committee (other than the Committee on Appropriations), or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, would cause, relative to current law, a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10 fiscal year periods beginning with the first fiscal year that is 10 fiscal years after the current fiscal year.”

There is really nothing new in those instructions except for one new Republican “limitation” that says:

“This subsection shall not apply to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon—

(A) repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and title I and subtitle B of title II of the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010;

(B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010.” (author bold)

quote:

WASHINGTON — After the drama of electing a new speaker of the House and the changing of control in the Senate, the House on Tuesday approved an obscure but significant rule change requiring the economic effects of legislation to be included in a bill’s official cost to the Treasury.

The change on “dynamic scoring” — ardently sought since the 1990s by Republicans — could ease passage of major tax cuts by showing that their impact on economic growth would substantially reduce their cost to the Treasury. The move is widely seen as a way for Republican leaders to set ground rules for an ambitious overhaul of the entire United States tax code.

“We’re saying, ‘If you think a piece of legislation is going to have a big effect on the economy, then include that effect in the official cost estimate,’ ” said Representative Tom Price, Republican of Georgia, the new chairman of the House Budget Committee. “So if you think a bill is going to help or hurt the economy, then tell us how much.”

Democrats blasted the change as “voodoo economics,” a “gamble” and “tax fraud.” Opponents said the rule change would invite politicized scorekeeping, further tilt policy to benefit the rich, and expand the budget deficit. Shaun Donovan, the White House budget director, implored the House not to “upend the level playing field that has existed for decades” and “call into question the accuracy, consistency and fairness” of congressional budget estimates.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/business/house-republicans-change-rules-on-calculating-economic-impact-of-bills.html

These are two different rules passed by the House. Expect that to be a factor in CBO's determination.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 224 days!

Coolguye posted:

i dont think it would friend


poe's law is a thing, so you can only talk to the originators of the source material for the real story - and the 2000AD writers, both past and present, will quickly say that Dredd is first and foremost supposed to be fun, not a role model.

same basic thing with like Warhammer 40k. that universe is basically a far-right wet dream where you always have someone who's Wrong to shoot and you can place you unwavering faith in the biggest, strongest daddy that ever daddied ever, but if you bring up politics to any games workshop writer they will basically start laughing at you.

Except that one Warhammer Online video where a developer breaks it down into British politics.

The thing about 40k is that literally everyone is comically evil. At the same time, it's not surprising that it's beloved of Internet fascists. I mean gently caress, the parts of it I like the best you play as either a Conquistador or the Space Spanish Inquisition and the rules explicitly encourage you to be as terrible a person as possible.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Al! posted:

Theres def gonna be a splinter evangelical org that sees trump as the for real reincarnation of christ soon, if there isnt already

But why

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/840235600657731584

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

a.lo posted:

But why

Gotta believe in somethin

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
im sure the convo with Abbas will be productive as heck

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/politico/status/840233046511091712

Mexico


England


Lithuania


India


China

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Hodgepodge posted:

I mean gently caress, the parts of it I like the best you play as either a Conquistador or the Space Spanish Inquisition and the rules explicitly encourage you to be as terrible a person as possible.
BUTT U HAV 2 B BECUZ IF U DONT THE RESULT WILL BE WORSE

JUST LIKE IRL

BE AN AWFUL RANDIAN PSYCHOPATH BCUZ OTHERWISE THE WORLD WILL COLLAPSE CUZ ERRY1 IS WEAK

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Jk theyll do it for the $$$$

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Hey guys get the Trump 100 day plan and let's see what he's already done in 50 days

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/840234061847224320

quote:

“Just like Jesus said, ‘The poor will always be with us,’ ” Marshall said in response to a question about Medicaid, which expanded under Obamacare to more than 30 states. “There is a group of people that just don’t want health care and aren’t going to take care of themselves.”

He added that “morally, spiritually, socially,” the poor, including the homeless, “just don’t want health care.”

“The Medicaid population, which is [on] a free credit card as a group, do probably the least preventive medicine and taking care of themselves and eating healthy and exercising. And I’m not judging; I’m just saying socially that’s where they are,” he told STAT, a website focused on health-care coverage. “So there’s a group of people that even with unlimited access to health care are only going to use the emergency room when their arm is chopped off or when their pneumonia is so bad they get brought [to] the ER.”

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
Robocop and Starship Troppers are amazing but Total Recall is probably my favorite movie. I have no real justification for this. I just like it a lot and its really fun. Verhoeven owns.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Killl the poor

https://twitter.com/braddjaffy/status/840234061847224320


E gently caress beaten

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ron Jeremy posted:

Someone above mentioned how razor thin dredd was and how it was possible to see it as right wing fantasy instead of as satire. Starship troopers isn't even razor thin. It's practically camp. And still people miss the point.

Not liking Starship Troopers or missing its extremely anti-fascist message is one of those things which immediately tell you that someone is severely retarded

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

paranoid randroid posted:

im sure the convo with Abbas will be productive as heck

trump cant wait to find out how many states abbas wants in his solution

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Al! posted:

Gotta believe in somethin

I'm going to believe in the power of love

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Lol wow

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

marshall: actually, eat the poor
marshall: no like literally, go outside, kill and eat a hobo

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

zegermans posted:

I've never seen RUnning Man, how does it scale from Conan the Destroyer to Commando

running man owns

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

hahaha holy moley

punchymcpunch
Oct 14, 2012



i believe it was jesus who once said "treat other people like poo poo"

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

Schnorkles posted:

I mean a fair number of these people will still vote R and blame democrats, somehow, but this is a game of inches. A couple percentage points here or there and suddenly you've lost 40 seats you thought were safe.

I think this vote has serious implications for every Senate race even if most safe House seats remain that way.

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


oliwan posted:

Not liking Starship Troopers or missing its extremely anti-fascist message is one of those things which immediately tell you that someone is severely retarded

anyone who dislikes starship troopers can never talk to me or my son again

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mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Coolguye posted:

marshall: actually, eat the poor
marshall: no like literally, go outside, kill and eat a hobo

just like jesus said

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